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Wow,,,,cant believe she escaped,,,,she imploded in the boardroom trying to choose who to bring back,,,,,tbh i would have sacked them both
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Jade was hopeless as PM and, as others have said , LS could have fired both of them. Instead he gave her a second chance , as he has done for others in this series.
Azhar has been in the boardroom repeatedly, with no contribution of any distinction so far. The week he won as PM, the rest of his team suggested he was a waste of space and they had done it in spite of him; nothing said in the boardroom contradicted this impression. So LS gave Azhar three lives and then fired him, and has just given Jade one life . Hard to say that was a bad decision, simply not quite as good a decison as firing the pair of them this evening.
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Bad decision to keep her, I'd not let her run the School tuck shop. That said she'll be a soft target for the others to pick on so maybe make better viewing.
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Blimey!
She did, literally, everything she possibly could to screw that one up and still didn't get fired. She wasn't a great manager, she failed to grasp the idea of restocking popular items, she failed to understand that there's no imperative to sell off stock at the end of the day, she brought the wrong person back into the board room with her and she didn't even bother to really argue her case or come up with any reasonable excuses for why she wasn't to blame. And she still didn't get fired? To me, at least, that certainly adds weight to my theory that Alan Sugar has already picked his winner and the series is just theatrics. If I was a betting man I'd be down to the bookies to stick £100 on Jade winning it now. Even AS's final line was a bit pathetic: "I don't want to go into business with somebody who I don't want to listen to so Azhar HAD to go" Eh? How's that make any sense at all?
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I think here board room performance was ludicrous and will go down as one of the worst ever
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I think here board room performance was ludicrous and will go down as one of the worst ever
This isn't a sign Jade will win though, as some have said. Quite the opposite. If you do this badly on a task and receive such a scathing edit, there's simply no recovery. As for the asset valuation method of judging the task, Jade completely failed to understand why she didn't need to dump stock at the end of the day. I've done some maths over on my blog to illustrate the difference it makes - may be helpful for some ... http://slouchingtowardsthatcham.com/...p-it-in-essex/ |
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The trouble is that Sugar's reason for firing Azhar was basically "I'm firing him because people wouldn't listen to him"
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Azhar repeatedly asked Jade about the strategy because she never actually gave him an answer.
Saying 'we'll just buy everything again because some stuff sold and other stuff might' is awful leadership on a selling/investing task. I think Azhar was right to say she was out of her depth, and Shugs clearly didn't make the firing based on this task. |
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Yep, I'd say worst boardroom performance error. To bring someone back in and then immediately apologise for being wrong? Should have fired her on the spot. And then she gave Sugar plenty of other reason to do so.
This isn't a sign Jade will win though, as some have said. Quite the opposite. If you do this badly on a task and receive such a scathing edit, there's simply no recovery. As for the asset valuation method of judging the task, Jade completely failed to understand why she didn't need to dump stock at the end of the day. I've done some maths over on my blog to illustrate the difference it makes - may be helpful for some ... http://slouchingtowardsthatcham.com/...p-it-in-essex/ ![]() Surely if Sterling sold those remaining 5 bottles even at a reduced cost they would have made even more profit ? The fact it`s only a short term task puts a different slant on the figures ... Or do I need to go back to bed
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Ridiculous decision. This is the kind of rubbish that is killing the show.
This show is on the ropes and will be cancelled within 2 years. Daft or controversial decisions get people talking, it's an obvious tactic. I'd put money on Shuggs never planning to hire either Jade or Azhar so the order in which he fires them is irrelevant to him. |
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Haha, why, because you disagreed with a decision? It's still extremely popular and above all, an entertainment show, not a business/workplace simulator.
Daft or controversial decisions get people talking, it's an obvious tactic. I'd put money on Shuggs never planning to hire either Jade or Azhar so the order in which he fires them is irrelevant to him. |
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True, but one of the core values of the show is surely for the audience to see that 'right prevails' and that the person who turns in the worst performance is evicted.
I believe the fact that Jade had never been in the bottom three before was the only thing stopping Shuggs from firing her now. That, and she fought her corner in the boardroom more than Azhar seemed to. But she's going soon, no doubt. I'm just saying that it's an overreaction to claim the show is in decline or anything like that. I would agree that this has been a pretty forgettable series, but last year's was great and IMO the year before that was the best series of all of them. I disagree with Sugar's decisions probably 50% of the time but I'm never going to irrationally claim the show should be cancelled for it. This kind of daft controversy is what makes it good - as long as the right person wins in the end, as you correctly put it.
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Lol getting my head around those figures on a wet windy morning
![]() Surely if Sterling sold those remaining 5 bottles even at a reduced cost they would have made even more profit ? The fact it`s only a short term task puts a different slant on the figures ... Or do I need to go back to bed ![]() |
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Haha, why, because you disagreed with a decision? It's still extremely popular and above all, an entertainment show, not a business/workplace simulator.
Daft or controversial decisions get people talking, it's an obvious tactic. I'd put money on Shuggs never planning to hire either Jade or Azhar so the order in which he fires them is irrelevant to him. Regardless, I can't defend Jade being kept in the process. She did herself irredeemable levels of damage in Sugar's eyes last night. The odd mistake is forgivable, but she barely got one thing right in the entire task, and completely missed the point of "smelling what sells", as evidenced by the sheer volume of left-over stock her team had at the end of the day. |
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I'm suprised at how indecisive she was about brining in a second person to the boardroom and that she wasn't aware that it looked bad. It just looked like she wasn't aware of much at all during the task and then to bring in Tom was the icing on the cake that should have given her the cut. The only reason why she stayed was because sugar saw even less point in Azhar than he did in her.
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Possibly the worst decision so far. Shocking. She brought someone back who she admited within two seconds was the wrong call. That summed her up and she STILL survived -.-
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I think here board room performance was ludicrous and will go down as one of the worst ever
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() not only that, that reason has been cited many times on the show.
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Agree with others - definately think Jade should've gone. Not necessarily a fan of Azhar either but think the task failing was down to Jade. Azhar might not have come accross well, & he maybe did sound like he was rambling on but he did make some good points to Jade during the task, such as taking more stock to the market as it was further away etc. Definately think Jade should've gone. Reckon Azhar did himself no favours though, maybe it was the way it was edited but he didn't seem to fight for his place, or have the desperation to stay like Jade did.
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Just to add, something that seems to be happening more & more with the Apprentice is that candidates are getting fired over nothing to do with the actual task which I find pretty frustrating. May as well skip the tasks as it seems he just waits on certain people getting brought back in so he can fire them. Last night's episode was 100% not based on who caused the failure of the task.
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I'm suprised at how indecisive she was about brining in a second person to the boardroom and that she wasn't aware that it looked bad. It just looked like she wasn't aware of much at all during the task and then to bring in Tom was the icing on the cake that should have given her the cut. The only reason why she stayed was because sugar saw even less point in Azhar than he did in her.
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The worst decision ever, the task was lost because of Jade, nothing to do with Azhar whatsoever, and his advice to her was right, she just didnt listen.
And she showed she has no class whatsoever by not shaking azhars hand at the end, me thinks Sugar wants more females left in the process, either that or the show is losing the plot. Toms got this won though, hes got winner written all over him, the rest are crap |
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Just to add, something that seems to be happening more & more with the Apprentice is that candidates are getting fired over nothing to do with the actual task which I find pretty frustrating. May as well skip the tasks as it seems he just waits on certain people getting brought back in so he can fire them. Last night's episode was 100% not based on who caused the failure of the task.
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when talking about what to re-stock Lord Sugar pointed out that they were going for more of the fake tan when they originally had 90 and still had 46 left !!!
how were they so bad at selling these when the other team had them flying out at twiice the selling price??? |
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Worst decision since the UK Apprentice started.
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I wonder why Karren did not stick up for Azhar. She obviously saw it all. He should have stopped saying STRATEGY, but he had a fair point, she didn't have a clue what she was doing.
Is Karren doing the whole "girls are doing it for themselves" or whatever b/s again? |
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