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Old 04-05-2012, 23:56
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Well, according to the polls Lord Sugar only got it right when he fired Michael in week 3. Which means that most people thought that in others weeks somebody else (including the PM) should have been fired instead.

And I would say that especially the very bad PMīs tend to avoid a firing (Simon from Series 3, Helene from Series 4, Stuart from Series 6 and Tom from Series 7).

If you carry this forward into the process this year, Gaby, Adam and Jade will at least make it to the final five.
Agreed, looking back I actually think that perhaps Laura (sadly ) and Adam should have been the only losing PM's IMO to have been fired. Maybe even with Ricky too.
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Old 05-05-2012, 00:37
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Well, according to the polls Lord Sugar only got it right when he fired Michael in week 3. Which means that most people thought that in others weeks somebody else (including the PM) should have been fired instead.
Without necessarily agreeing with "most people", I do think Lord Sugar has his biases, and one of them is in favour of PMs. Especially if they volunteer and weren't forced into it by himself or the rest of the team. Generally he seems to prefer candidates who take on more, even if they get it wrong, than candidates who let other people take the risks. Other people with different values will make different firing choices.

And I would say that especially the very bad PMīs tend to avoid a firing (Simon from Series 3, Helene from Series 4, Stuart from Series 6 and Tom from Series 7).
I felt Helene was unlucky on the wedding task. Lucinda had Lee, who eventually won; Claire, who came second; and Raef, who was also pretty good (better than his placing suggests, in my view). Helene had Alex, whom I thought was rubbish and would have been fired on the first task had he not been PM; and Sara and Michael who were mediocre at best. Lucinda wasn't a great PM, but she had a much better team and so won. Helene wasn't great either, but I wouldn't say she was very bad.

I thought Stuart Baggs was hard done by in the interview round. It amounted to character assassination. I think he's much better than popular opinion. I don't recall much of his PMing. He won as PM on task 7, and I seem to recall task 10 was lost because the other team made an extravagant deal which surprised a lot of people when it paid off.

Tom I thought was a deserving winner. He lost as PM largely because Leon did virtually nothing (because he didn't speak French), and Melody seemed to go out of her way to sabotage the task. He let her market research override his intuition about the best products. Normally that would be rational and sane, and candidates have been fired for ignoring market research in the past, and as he didn't speak French himself he had no way of knowing how badly she'd stitched him up.

I've left Simon 'til last because I personally prefered Naomi over him. I think he leaned too heavily on Tre. As I recall, he made some surprising product choices (eg, the wheelchair), but he'd thought them through and they paid off. I don't recall him being a terrible PM, and of course he did lead his team to victory on task 7.

In summary, I don't agree the ones you mention were "very bad". Two of them were eventual series winners.
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Old 05-05-2012, 02:21
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Agreed, looking back I actually think that perhaps Laura (sadly ) and Adam should have been the only losing PM's IMO to have been fired. Maybe even with Ricky too.
Actually I think Adam's is one of the more defensible. Yes, he'd been awful from the start of the whole process, but Katie and Stephen both bore major responsibility for screwing up the task. As Adam, idiotically, didn't bring in Stephen, that put Katie well in the firing line.

There's no way Ricky should have been fired as PM. Duane had screwed up the task and shown a total unwillingness to listen to other people's ideas.

Laura (sadly for me too) should indeed have gone. I'm glad she didn't though!
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Old 07-05-2012, 16:58
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Nargis was a terrible PM on Series 2. She created a charity calender made of cats LOL
I say it's time to call a stop to this needless slaughter of cats.

Calendars can be made nearly as well from other materials, such as paper and cardboard.
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Old 09-05-2012, 22:17
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make it 8/8
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Old 09-05-2012, 22:20
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First firing he got right in ages.
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Old 09-05-2012, 22:23
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First firing he got right in ages.
Michael's firing is about right/
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Old 09-05-2012, 23:28
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Yeah LOL, but TBF to Nargis nearly all the team where behind the dreadful idea. She was an awful PM though LOL.

Series 2 episode 2 it was an hilarious episode.
Apart from Jo, she hated it, she even cried I think?
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