[jackbell]

I'm still waiting for the ABC and Haircut 100 revival.

[Yorkie47]

Originally Posted by SamMcK

I'm 18 and I am fixated on 50's, 60's and 70's music. Beatles, Bob Dylan, Frank Sinatra, Pink Floyd, Beach Boys, (particularly 65-73) Elvis, Motown etc. I do like stuff from the 80's and 90's though but like very little of todays music besides the music the older artists are releasing.

You sound very sensible to me! Enjoy the music you like, don't worry what anyone else thinks.

[newplanet]

Originally Posted by scrilla

Definitely. You could site a couple of acts who were popular at the start of other decades and contrast them with obviously very different acts popular at the end. Proves nothing.

To be honest, I am not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me?

I was talking about the degree of change in the 80s which, to me at least, seems bigger than the 90s or the 00s - particularly the 00s.

Which chart acts which sounded like Inner City and D-Mob at the beginning of the 80s? Which chart acts sounded like Abba and Blondie at the end of the 80s? I can't think of any, can you? Compare that to the 00s, where I think the majority of successful acts at the end of the decade sound the same as the majority of successful acts at the beginning of it.

Maybe it's an age thing, but I see a huge evolution in the 80s, a bit less so in the 90s, virtually none in the 00s.

[mushymanrob]

Originally Posted by Mallaha

Yes you did. You had to read NME or Melody Maker, and pester record shop assistants for 7" singles that hadn't been released yet, if you wanted to listen to the most cutting-edge, interesting stuff.
Either that, or listen to John Peel or a dodgy pirate radio station that was mostly static.

true, but there was damn decent material both in the charts and on the radio who wasnt constrained to simple playlists. radio dj's were always on the look out for the next big thing or an act that were new and diverse.

even the crap that was in the charts was original crap! lol

Originally Posted by newplanet

To be honest, I am not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me?

I was talking about the degree of change in the 80s which, to me at least, seems bigger than the 90s or the 00s - particularly the 00s.

Which chart acts which sounded like Inner City and D-Mob at the beginning of the 80s? Which chart acts sounded like Abba and Blondie at the end of the 80s? I can't think of any, can you? Compare that to the 00s, where I think the majority of successful acts at the end of the decade sound the same as the majority of successful acts at the beginning of it.

Maybe it's an age thing, but I see a huge evolution in the 80s, a bit less so in the 90s, virtually none in the 00s.

and on this i completely agree... id also extend the evolution backwards into the 50's, through the ever changing 60's, through the most varied 70's before you got to the 80's.

but like i said earlier, i blame S/A/W for shifting the development and ideas away from the youth of the day (which had underpinned evolution through the 50's until the late 80's) and into the hands of the businessman. it was 'da kidz' that made pop music interesting and diverse, its the businessmen that are responsible for the death of innovation mainly in the singles market.

[Mallaha]

Originally Posted by scrilla

Another thing that helps people have a skewed view of the music of the past is the output of daytime radio shows. Shows that would tend to play a lot of chart oldies / 80's chart music only play certain songs regularly, if at all. Much of what was then well-known singles chart material is now neglected or ignored.

This is very true. The 80s wasn't all about power ballads and novelty pop.

There was some great alternative and off-the-radar music that still stands up to repeat listening now - you had the goth scene, which has continued to grow and mutate to this day, hardcore evolving from punk, metal growing and diversifying, electronic dance music coming into its own - plus lots of less definable acts.

[zx50]

Originally Posted by MissDexter

Into The Groove
&

1990

The 80s were great for good fun pop music - i love everything from Scritti Politti to Duran Duran to S/A/W.

I recently compiled all my thousands of 80s tracks into their respective years to create an almost "timeline" of the 80s charts and how they developed.
Love listening to them.

Why have you singled out Get into the Groove as well? That was released in 1985. I just sort of guessed with the Paula Abdul song. I thought it was from the '80s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Groove

[len112]

Though I was born in the 60's and there was some fantastic music back then , Motown was in it's heyday and the Supremes etc would trample over the equivalent girl bands today . My music buying really began in earnest in 80's but it was the club tracks that got me into music not the chart stuff . I guarantee I could do a mix tape of 80's music that make today's youngster reevaluate their musical taste .

[scrilla]

Originally Posted by newplanet

To be honest, I am not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me?

I was saying it's too simplistic because there was a diversity of musical styles reaching the charts at the start of the decade and this was still the case by the end. There is no little common ground between Blondie and Abba (the examples you cite for the beginning of that decade), nor is there any sign of influence from those groups in the music of Inner City and D-Mob. What they have in common is chart success within the same decade, little else.

Every decade's pop music comprises various genres, some of which will influence new into sub-genres. Some styles will remain popular and mainstream, some will fade into the background to a more cult-like status. Things are always changing, in ways we like and dislike and new sounds are always originating in every decade.

The rest of my post which you didn't quote dealt with this ..

Originally Posted by scrilla

All decades are about multiple genres and plenty happens in the field of popular music over the course of ten years.
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Yes, it is a massive over-simplification of the situation. You could say that the 60's started off with doo-wop and ended up with psychedelia but where does (e.g.) Bob Dylan or Otis Redding or Johnny Cash fit into this supposed evolution?

Or that the 70's began with prog-rock and closed with new wave but Donna Summer or Bob Marley or the Sugarhill Gang don't fit the jigsaw.

There are always a multitude of styles existing side-by-side and sometimes with little if anything to connect them together.

Originally Posted by newplanet

Which chart acts which sounded like Inner City and D-Mob at the beginning of the 80s? Which chart acts sounded like Abba and Blondie at the end of the 80s? I can't think of any, can you?

Inner City and D-Mob have a sound which was evolving from about 1985 onwards so nothing earlier sounds quite similar. I can't think of any bands that sound especially like Blondie either at the time they were together or at the end of the decade. Abba's sound seemed to change on a single-by-single basis. I've never listened to one of there albums.

Originally Posted by newplanet

Compare that to the 00s, where I think the majority of successful acts at the end of the decade sound the same as the majority of successful acts at the beginning of it.

Maybe it's an age thing, but I see a huge evolution in the 80s, a bit less so in the 90s, virtually none in the 00s.

I'm no fan of the last decade of chart music (generally speaking) and my awareness of chart positions is not virtually non-existent but there is still evolution; an evolution of music that I and perhaps yourself are less interested in. I'd say that nobody was making music that sounded like Jason Derulo, Tinie Tempah or David Guetta circa 2000.

[RetroMusicFan]

Originally Posted by zx50

Why have you singled out Get into the Groove as well? That was released in 1985. I just sort of guessed with the Paula Abdul song. I thought it was from the '80s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Groove

I think it's been picked out because the song is called 'Into' The Groove. there is no 'Get' at the beginning.

[mushymanrob]

Originally Posted by scrilla

I'd say that nobody was making music that sounded like Jason Derulo, Tinie Tempah or David Guetta circa 2000.

i think that dance music was far superior in 2000 to the generic crap guetta creates, plus we were in the tail end of what i consider to be the uk's last big original genre (or sub genre) uk garage, which the likes of tempah would have been doing .

[soundstory]

Originally Posted by harveybest

The 80's also gave us Stock Aitken and Waterman........So there were downsides

Absolutely

[Nailz]

Originally Posted by DaveNightingale

Q The 80's is a cracking listen on Sunday nights and Thursday Nights at 6. Full of the good stuff.. and the stuff you just don't hear anymore,presented by a bloke who cares what goes into it,Matthew Rudd.

Check out Q Radio's website or click on their logo on RadioPlayer,and take a look at the blog for the playlist of the latest show...

http://qthe80sblog.blogspot.co.uk/

That's a very well picked collection of 80s tracks. I'll tune in for that. My problem with most 80s radio shows is that they play the usual favourites and ignore some of the songs that didn't do so well that were just as good if not better or were album tracks. When did you last hear Duran Durans 'The Chauffeur' on air ?

[Salv*]

I'm 19 and I agree. My Spotify has well over 1,000 songs on there, I would say around 100 from the 1970s, 350 of them were taken from the 1980s, another 400 from the 90s and around 250 from the last 5-6 years.

I am obsessed with:
Shalamar, Imagination, Chic, Sade, Earth Wind and Fire.... so many more.

And the two songs I keep playing right now are:
Rick James- Give It To Me Baby, and The Human League's Don't You Want Me. I have played it at least 5 times every day for the last 3 months!

However I think people are so difficult on recent music, from the chart now I only like around 10/40 songs on the chart, but there are LOADS of songs that aren't commercial and haven't been successful recently which are quite frankly incredible. It's a shame some songs will never get recognised because of people like Rihanna (who I do like) that just charts whatever she releases.

[zx50]

Originally Posted by RetroMusicFan

I think it's been picked out because the song is called 'Into' The Groove. there is no 'Get' at the beginning.

Fair enough. Can't understand why they left 'Get' off the title for though. She says it every time she sings that line. Oh well...

[newplanet]

Originally Posted by scrilla

I'm no fan of the last decade of chart music (generally speaking) and my awareness of chart positions is not virtually non-existent but there is still evolution; an evolution of music that I and perhaps yourself are less interested in. I'd say that nobody was making music that sounded like Jason Derulo, Tinie Tempah or David Guetta circa 2000.

I was just talking about my own interpretation and I agree that your "perhaps less interested in" point has probably influenced by take on things, which is why I suggested it might just be an age thing on my part.

Looking back, throughout the 80s there seemed to be something fresh, new and exciting to listen to. Music seemed to go on an exciting journey. But perhaps I was just at the right age, perhaps I was just paying it more attention back then.

The past decade, on the other hand, just seems like a blur where everything has meshed together with no obvious journey... for me, at least. But you're right... perhaps that's just because I haven't been looking closely enough... or the music simply hasn't engaged me to the degree it once did. Perhaps music is taking younger folks on an equally exciting journey right now. But if that is true, it does make me wonder why that has happened. Surely it all doesn't come down to my age, at the end of the day? Does it?

I am beginning to sound like my dad, who would forever moan at me during the late 80s and early 90s that the music I was listening to was dreadful, even though I found it thoroughly energising, exciting and really rather wonderful.

That's not to say I don't enjoy some of today's chart music. I just don't see it in any kind of a rush to go anywhere new any time soon - and I am kinda left wishing it would.

[Blossom85]

I'm also a huge fan of Erasure and old school Guns n Roses. Years ago, when I told one of my secondary school teachers I loved the latter as a child he gave me a really strange look.

Fortunately, my English teach was a huge Pet Shop Boys fan.

[Orangemaid]

I love eighties music too..I just been on itunes finding more to go on 80's playlist lol..but why are they 99p now, for old ones

[Glenn A]

I grew up in the eighties and for all British music became poor after 1987, from 1980 to 1986 was a golden era for British music. I love most of the New Romantic/synthpop, Two Tone, the second generation of British metal bands and soloists like Peter Gabriel.

[Hutchy_Muse]

Let's not forget the likes of The Smiths, The Jam, The Stone Roses, The Cure, Echo & the Bunnymen and New Order!

[Glenn A]

Not forgetting Guns and Roses and Metallica in the late eighties. While British music was going down the drain around 1988, there were all these American metal bands coming out that were so much better.
However, in the early 80s British music was light years ahead of stuff like Styx.

[len112]

Originally Posted by BBaddict212

The 80's revolutinised music back then and still does today, to this day recent artists and recreating 80's songs

In the 80's we had Duran Duran, Foriegner, Madonna (at her best) , George Michael, STarship upon many other amazing artists.

Now we have LMAFAO, Nicki Minaj, Jedward and Rihanna (who wears next to nothing to get attention)

What a difference 30 years makes

Don't forget to check out some of the fantastic 60's Motown stuff , I heard this track for the first time a couple of weeks ago and I was born in the 60's !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frCr6eq2Vfc

some more Motown stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhVXs...feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v1S-ypz5a4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRjCqaX2IvQ