If you're horribly pretentious and up your own backside then yes, it probably is true for many people.

Otherwise it's not.

So to not like a song and to think its utter shite is to be somehow pretentious i must apologise for having a polarizing opinion

I thought she was dreadful. I turned it off after the first few seconds.

No, its off the back of another performance of hers, an xrated one, probably her best performance to date

I dont actually mind the song, its quite catchy, but the vocals lets the song down bigtime and thats all that tulisa has contributed to this song and she cant even do that properly. Id rather congratulate the writer and producer of this song than Tulisa,
Anyone couldve sung on this song, it just happened to be Tulisa who was there at the right place, right time.

And funnily enough sleeping with one of the writers

Haha really? Was that the guy in the xrated video or someone else? Ive lost track as to who shes slept with

Haha no it was Fazer her band mate in N-dubz apart from that one video i do think she is quite a normal young girl with the misfortune to have scummy x boyfriend and crap taste in music

its a song that got to number 1, why is everyone having a baby about it. if you do not like - do not buy, buy another song. if you hear the song on the radio, change the radio. if you see tulisa on bgt, turn it over. whats the problem? its not like she forced the british public to buy the song with a gun to their heads, this week her song is the most popular in the country so take up your problems with your fellow citizens not tulisa - it will probably be number 3 this time next week so stop bitching.

Yes another one :yawn:

Oh look, another "anyone who disses chart music is automatically a hipster" post

Got anything to back up your argument? Or are you just going to throw cheap, unfounded generalisations at anyone who happens to denounce a current popular song? I think I made my argument clear from the start, but you obviously don't have anything worth saying to add.

Again, quoted.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on music, even me, and I have no problem with complaining about music because some music is shit. But when artists like Marina are brought in to it as an apparent example of "real" music then I feel justified in my remark.


Yes, all the time. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with artists who write and perform their own music at all. Just as I have no problem with an artist like Tulisa.

My problem is more one of .. let's say .."antagonism" (if there is such a word). I accept without reservation that everyone has different tastes in music, but I object to those people pushing "their" desired genre of music as "quality" at the expense of a genre they dislike when it's clearly not true.

So I'm quite happy to antagonise and make "unfounded generalisations". I suppose the kids would call it "trolling"

Tulisa --> #1

Marina & the Diamonds --> #11


There really is no justice.

Yes i saw it the first time thanks

as did i, but i would never describe a forum post as amazing. it comes as no surprise some people don't like her or the song, but as per usual the `common sense` killjoys will insist on p&&ding on the bonfire. :yawn:

Its almost as if some people stay on the forum just to say how bad current music is. Obviously a lot of people like the song enough to buy it so good for her i say.

apparently, the song has shifted nearly 122k this week and it is the second fastest selling single of the year so far. so yes, a lot people did like the song enough for it to achieve that. so i agree with you, good for her.

It was quoted to demonstrate to the poster my agreement. Making comments with catty tones only serves to make you look immature.

You'll never hear me saying current music is bad. The responses are aimed at the original post which congratulated Tulisa. Not a denouncement of modern music in general.

Yes well done... For having a great PR team.

another 'well said' from me to add to the others..

her performance on bgt last night was awful.. could believe it!, and how tf she won 'sexiest woman of the year' is a mystery...well... it might be on the back of that porno vid she did that came to light around voting time!

is it?

that highlights the poor state of music imho.

the songs ok, but its at #1 on the back of hype, marketing and the general mood of the nation that seems to be seeking and be part of the next big thing. its an almost tribal mentality , a need to feel part of something.

Tip for all of you who want to become popstars.

Make a sextape, Try and get a record deal, Tell your ex to leak your sex tape, Make an apology video on your youtube channel. Then release your debut single (Make sure you it is about making mistakes). Then boom you have a #1 single.

If Justin Edwards released a statement claiming full responsibility for leaking "the tape" and said that Tulisa had absolutely nothing to do with it as he was attempting to make money from it, I imagine people on DS would just assume she paid him to say that ..

This song really is a piece of shit, isn't it?

Her hasty vindication is far less socially causative than she would like to think. "FORGIVE ME CAUSE I'M YOUNG YEH LOL". Err- what? No, **** off. What kind of apology is that?

Instead of being an eye-opening revolution that masterfully transcends generations and provides the long sought-after answer for insatiable late-night/early morning debauchery, all the song does is solidify opinions and stereotypes that have been set in stone for decades - the yoofs are a bunch of pissheads and the oldies don't understand, because of course, we're the first generation to discover drinking, taking drugs and shagging. This song doesn't even 'apologise' subtly. It feels like a sledgehammer to the face of everyone who was ever wronged by the “young”, shrugging of years of guilt in two lines of auto-tuned vocal wailing.

Constructed on some ill-founded and utterly unconvincing inspiration behind the song’s lyrics (an argument which boils down to “We’re young; we’re bound to make a mess of ourselves. You will deal.”) is the proof that teenagers - and anyone else clinging onto their youth - are all too keen to forgive themselves of past wrongs simply by frantically pointing at Tulisa’s faux-philosophical ponderings and indulging on some great absolution that appears to hold this song together, thinking it will suffice as some godly atonement. But that’s just it - this song works in reverse and is perceived to emit some oblique luminosity because those who listen to the all-loving and all-powerful Tulisa might chance to feel cleansed by her screeching. Unfortunately, these are the kind of people that would like to think this song means anything at all. Oblivious to the real message of the song, Tulisa and her fans will soon realise that there is little life-changing epiphany to be found here, and certainly not the kind of notion that puts one in the apologetic mood. What would usually be a ballad in anyone else’s understanding of song topics and lyrical conventions is a wheezy, breathless mix of anaemic Ibiza synths and crescendos to rival Calvin Harris’ anti-climactic prowess.

Tulisa herself is just appalling. Her little contribution to the song is some shite lyrics and a bit a warbling, but she can't even get that right. She sucks into a vacuum all possible emotion and leaves a residual - but jarring - blandness not too dislike what comes of listening to too much Jessie J - you simply feel shouted at, rather than empathised with, the worst part being that both women want to feel everyone’s pain and believe singing loudly does the trick.