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Old 06-05-2012, 11:11
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I find it hard to believe that anyone with half a brain cell could prefer BGT to The Voice.

One is a show where talent is mentored by genuine talent that has actually achieved something in life, sing with live bands every week and the other is a money making machine which turns it's eye against anything remotely talented in favour of sob stories, child singers, scripted put downs and fakery.

Mind you, I suppose it is the same people that keep Jeremy Kyle employed that watch it
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:13
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There was a lot of curiousity about The Voice how it was anti-X Factor and anti-Cowell but at the end of the day - as I've said all along - it is a singing talent show voted by the public and no more. The early weeks are a little different, but once it gets to this stage is identical to Idol and X Factor.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:18
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Why the **** are people still watching BGT when they can watch The Voice? BGT has about 25 singers in the final 45 with a few dance troupes that are nothing new and the worst novelty acts I've ever seen.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:19
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This is easy explained. The FA Cup final was running on ITV until 7.50pm.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:24
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I find it hard to believe that anyone with half a brain cell could prefer BGT to The Voice.

One is a show where talent is mentored by genuine talent that has actually achieved something in life, sing with live bands every week and the other is a money making machine which turns it's eye against anything remotely talented in favour of sob stories, child singers, scripted put downs and fakery.

Mind you, I suppose it is the same people that keep Jeremy Kyle employed that watch it
People don't watch TV shows based on what is logical, rational or what is ethical. They watch something out of the sheer fact they enjoy it. As great as The Voice is on paper it is DULL DULL DULL watching, while BGT is great fun and entertainment.

I am not surprised BGT is more successful.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:24
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Last night it felt longer than Children In Need.

Something is badly wrong when a show seems to drag that much. Add in some terrible performances and it's no surprise people are switching off.

Let's hope they actually manage to edit the results show competently tonight as well, it died a death last week.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:24
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I find it hard to believe that anyone with half a brain cell could prefer BGT to The Voice.

One is a show where talent is mentored by genuine talent that has actually achieved something in life, sing with live bands every week and the other is a money making machine which turns it's eye against anything remotely talented in favour of sob stories, child singers, scripted put downs and fakery.

Mind you, I suppose it is the same people that keep Jeremy Kyle employed that watch it
Oooh get you

For what it's worth ... and avoiding comparisons with BGT ... I'm losing interest in The Voice because it's become long winded and a bit 'up itself'. The early rounds were unique and were really fun and interesting - now it could be any old talent/singing contest. The format of the eliminations, IMO, is flawed because some teams have a number of talented singers, whereas other's don't - so we could end up with a weaker final because stronger artists have been eliminated because of the 'one from each team' type finale!

Just my opinion though as to why I'm getting fed up with it.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:30
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People who think BGT is entertainment are the people who think Jim Davidson is hilarious and that Blackpool is the entertainment capital of the world. Oh, and they also LOVE child singers no matter how shite they are.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:32
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BGT and The Voice are two very different shows. The Voice is a show purely on singing while BGT is a variety show with a number of different ''acts''.

Why exactly are they being compared?

I don't understand where this has come from as they will have different audiences.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:36
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This is easy explained. The FA Cup final was running on ITV until 7.50pm.
Ah the voice of sanity; you wont fit in round here.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:37
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Mind you, I suppose it is the same people that keep Jeremy Kyle employed that watch it
Sorry to disappoint you, but I've never watched a Jeremy Kyle show in my life, wouldn't know him if he jumped up and bit my arse.. However, if it comes to choosing between some idiot murdering an Elvis classic and another idiot wearing a saucepan on his head, impersonating a Dalek, then give me the Dalek everytime, far less painful on the eardrums.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:38
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People who think BGT is entertainment are the people who think Jim Davidson is hilarious and that Blackpool is the entertainment capital of the world. Oh, and they also LOVE child singers no matter how shite they are.
The production values on The Voice are quite Blackpool actually.

The tacky gold hand statues, those umbrellas, miles of microphone cable. It is quite end of the pier!
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:40
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Exactly the same thing happened on The Voice of Ireland. Big ratings for the blind auditions and then they dropped like a stone. People got bored stiff, it reverted right back to a run of the mill elimination show.

I didn't actually think the same thing would happen with the BBC version, I thought it would blow everything else out of the water.......but sorry to say, at live show stage, its as boring as hell as well.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:42
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The production values on The Voice are quite Blackpool actually.

The tacky gold hand statues, those umbrellas, miles of microphone cable. It is quite end of the pier!
Hmm.

Although the music used extends a little further than Blackpool. Some of the people critiquing this show have clearly been raised on a turgid diet of boyband ballads and urban pop- give them Tom Petty or Fleetwood Mac and they claim "no-one's ever heard of the song".

Perhaps it's just me, but I think this show is being criticised because it dares not to cater solely to the lowest common denominator viewers, who think Ant & Dec are the peak of light entertainment and think a week in Gran Canaria is exotic.

Bitchy.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:45
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Wow that's terrible. Really shocked.
It was getting 10m and now it's getting 8
I'm scared of we are not careful it will struggle to get 7m
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:48
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Under the circumstances I think it did very well on a Bank Holiday week-end with people being away, 11 million people watching the Cup Final on ITV for the first half hour and a lot of people watching the Cup Final in pubs. I would think most of them would stay until the very end rather than switch over as soon as the whistle went. A lot of people would have recorded it if they weren't able to watch because of the football.

Unfortunately next week because of BGT it's been pushed back to 6.10 which isn't a good time to start so I'm not expecting a big improvement.

I thoroughly enjoyed the show this week and expect the ratings to pick up after next week.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:51
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I think the ratings will continue to drop. At this stage The Voice is simply a 2nd rate X Factor without all the mentors arguing (which is one of the things that makes XF good tv imo). The auditions were interesting because they were different from the Pop Idol/XF/BGT style auditions that we have all seen for years.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:02
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Hmm.

Although the music used extends a little further than Blackpool. Some of the people critiquing this show have clearly been raised on a turgid diet of boyband ballads and urban pop- give them Tom Petty or Fleetwood Mac and they claim "no-one's ever heard of the song".

Perhaps it's just me, but I think this show is being criticised because it dares not to cater solely to the lowest common denominator viewers, who think Ant & Dec are the peak of light entertainment and think a week in Gran Canaria is exotic.

Bitchy.
This post is a prime example of why I don't watch The Voice and I have the same problem with it as I do with the show: sheer snobbery.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:11
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This post is a prime example of why I don't watch The Voice and I have the same problem with it as I do with the show: sheer snobbery.
Subjective Opinion and all that.

You call it snobbery, I call it taste. Horses for courses.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:15
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This post is a prime example of why I don't watch The Voice and I have the same problem with it as I do with the show: sheer snobbery.
Yeah - people actually singing in tune (barring Ruth-Anne) - such snobs

Seriously though - that is what ITV is all about - being able to entertain the lowest common demoninator - its the same with its comedy shows and everything like that - they do not produce niche shows in the same way the BBC and Channel 4/ 5 do.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:19
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Oh look at the " my dads bigger than your dad" posts. Really is there any need for the snobbery as many people enjoy both shows. Imo the smobbery is just a very weak attempt to try and make their post look like it means something above every other persons opionon.

As for the show ratings you can make all the excuses you want but its been doing the same thing in other countries, As soon as the live's start they drop in ratings from US, Gremany to the UK. So its just shows us for many there is a problem with the live shows. and the company need t take a hard look into whats the problem is.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:23
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Oh look at the " my dads bigger than your dad" posts. Really is there any need for the snobbery as many people enjoy both shows. Imo the smobbery is just a very weak attempt to try and make their post look like it means something above every other persons opionon.

As for the show ratings you can make all the excuses you want but its been doing the same thing in other countries, As soon as the live's start they drop in ratings from US, Gremany to the UK. So its just shows us for many there is a problem with the live shows. and the company need t take a hard look into whats the problem is.
If, as I suspect, this post is aimed at me then I can tell you right now I don't give a damn what people think of my post. I'm certainly not expecting it to be elevated above all else (although thank you for pointing out that it should be!)

I will however refute your claim of snobbery- I am merely saying people who are criticising this for the song choices, and saying they've never heard of them, are being incredibly short sighted themselves. Although inverted snobbery is way more socially acceptable than traditional snobbery so you know. Just one of those, I suppose.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:27
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Oh look at the " my dads bigger than your dad" posts.
That's disgusting


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Old 06-05-2012, 12:28
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Oh look at the " my dads bigger than your dad" posts. Really is there any need for the snobbery as many people enjoy both shows. Imo the smobbery is just a very weak attempt to try and make their post look like it means something above every other persons opionon.

As for the show ratings you can make all the excuses you want but its been doing the same thing in other countries, As soon as the live's start they drop in ratings from US, Gremany to the UK. So its just shows us for many there is a problem with the live shows. and the company need t take a hard look into whats the problem is.
Welcome to the DS Forums. It was the same last year with Strictly and X Factor.

Why can't people be a fan of both shows.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:31
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If, as I suspect, this post is aimed at me then I can tell you right now I don't give a damn what people think of my post. I'm certainly not expecting it to be elevated above all else (although thank you for pointing out that it should be!)

I will however refute your claim of snobbery- I am merely saying people who are criticising this for the song choices, and saying they've never heard of them, are being incredibly short sighted themselves. Although inverted snobbery is way more socially acceptable than traditional snobbery so you know. Just one of those, I suppose.
Good im glad that you dont give a shit because i dont as your posts about songs is irrelevant to what the topic of the thread is about and is wrothy of being ingored for that very matter..

now if you dont mind I would like to talk to people who want to stay on topic of the thread so enojoy yourself on that pedastal of yours just watch you dont fall i wouldnt want you to hurt yourself.
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