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Old 07-05-2012, 10:51
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Tonight we have EE & AR v BGT from 7:30-9:00 and CS & BGT Results v SW (repeat) from 9:00-10:00.This clash will likely damage everything except CS and BGT Results. SW repeat will be less than 3m, CS could easily be 9m+ and beat BGT main show. BGT results ought be 3rd highest show of the night. EE will be under 6m, it is a teen show tonight (Lauren, Lucy & Whitney which viewers seem to loathe.)
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:52
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:53
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Cannot see The Gadget Show doing well again tonight as there is a lot of other stuff on.
And I watched the weekends episode and this is much more boring with out the other 3.
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:59
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Originally Posted by grahamzxy
Tonight we have EE & AR v BGT from 7:30-9:00 and CS & BGT Results v SW (repeat) from 9:00-10:00.This clash will likely damage everything except CS and BGT Results. SW repeat will be less than 3m, CS could easily be 9m+ and beat BGT main show. BGT results ought be 3rd highest show of the night. EE will be under 6m, it is a teen show tonight (Lauren, Lucy & Whitney which viewers seem to loathe.)
Last year EE got 5.2m in the overnights but it was on at 8pm so BGT got a half--hour head start on it which doesn't happen this year.

I wonder if Antiques Roadshow will finish above Eastenders tonight as EE will have more of an audience overlap with BGT than AR does.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:07
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As expected ITV1 will dominate this week by filling primetime with soaps and BGT. Though I hope The Apprentice stands up well on Wednesday.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:14
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Given The Voice will be back in 2013. I suggest moving it to January

Saturday 5th January

Doctor Who - 6.45pm
The Voice: Blind Auditions - 7.30pm
National Lottery: In It to Win It - 8.45pm
Mrs Browns Boys - 9.35pm
News - 10.05pm
Match of the Day - 10.25pm

Sunday 6th January

Countryfile - 7.00pm
Casualty - 8.00pm
Call the Midwife - 9.00pm

Then come the live shows.

Saturday 9th February - Saturday 16th March

The Voice Live - 7.00pm
National Lottery: In It to Win It - 8.30pm
The Voice Results - 9.20pm
News - 10.55pm
Match of the Day - 10.15pm

I would ditch Let's Dance altogether and have the phone votes from The Voice get donated to Comic Relief. Also moving Casualty to Sunday would give BBC One a strong line up with Countryfile and Call the Midwife as the bread in the sandwich.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:20
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Last year EE got 5.2m in the overnights but it was on at 8pm so BGT got a half--hour head start on it which doesn't happen this year.

I wonder if Antiques Roadshow will finish above Eastenders tonight as EE will have more of an audience overlap with BGT than AR does.
Eastenders is rating much weaker this year than it was prior to BGT last year, I think Eastenders will really struggle this week, possibly we will see BGT and EE both down year-on-year. At least EE won't have a clash on Friday, so overall the weekly average should be up in that sense.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:24
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I am sure that some of us will be watching BGT ratings for the next 4 evenings - will they dip under 9m at all? There is some competition from BBC1, nothing that ought break 6m - but enough to take the shine off a lacklustre BGT series.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:30
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That's horrendous for The Voice. I wasn't expecting it to fall so low.

BGT looks a little low as well, should really have been over 10m last night.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:38
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That's horrendous for The Voice. I wasn't expecting it to fall so low.

BGT looks a little low as well, should really have been over 10m last night.
I think those who criticised the decision to pre-record the results show are absolutely spot-on - for a show targetted at that key younger demographic, you need some kind of immediacy rather than a day's delay.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:40
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That's horrendous for The Voice. I wasn't expecting it to fall so low.

BGT looks a little low as well, should really have been over 10m last night.
Both shows got the ratings they deserved though, BBC1 will not mind as long as the live TV shows remain around 8m or so. I expected 10m for BGT, but I am pretty glad I was proved wrong.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:42
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That's horrendous for The Voice. I wasn't expecting it to fall so low.

BGT looks a little low as well, should really have been over 10m last night.
The live show needs a serious re-vamp, and I think this needs to happen this series or there risks not being a 2nd series.

for starters it needs to be live, I would move it to Saturday at 9 or 9:30 once BGT has finished.

secondly they really need to work on increasing the tension of the results show, whether that means altering the lighting, the sound effects or the script I don't know. But at the moment it just feels like a non-event.

I'm also not sure the audience likes the format of one contestant from each team leaving the show, rather than simply the bottom 2 from all teams leaving. Last night for example I felt that Danny's team were far stronger, and he didn't deserve to lose an act as JessieJ had far worse performers.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:44
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I think BGT will be higher tonight. Maybe 10m with +1.

ITV and Cowell will continue to be happy until BGT isn't the number 1 show in the ratings. At the moment it is.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:46
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The Big Brother thing tonight is eye flashes. They start during Home and Away.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:46
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Is the format for The Voice exactly the same in every country it's shown in? Are individual countries allowed to tweak it as they like?
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:46
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In America, ratings dipped 40% from the auditions to live shows. In France, the ratings have gone down from 8.5million during auditions to 7million during live shows. In the UK the ratings have dropped 40% from last auditions show to last night. Its a worldwide problem with the format, the format is not unique enough during the live shows to keep viewers sticking with it. Not sure the BBC are allowed to change the format without the permission of Jon de Mol, its up to Talpa to make the changes in the format. The lighting and tension last night was perfectly adequate imo but its obvious the live show format, which is out of the bbcs hands, is hindering its ratings in the UK and around the world.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:53
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Is the format for The Voice exactly the same in every country it's shown in? Are individual countries allowed to tweak it as they like?
The format is the same in other countries. If they have to make any tweaks then it's John De Mol's say whether it can.

We will see whether the ratings trend will continue as Australia (who is hosted by Darren McMullen, remember him?) will be entering the live shows in the next week.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:54
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I am sure that some of us will be watching BGT ratings for the next 4 evenings - will they dip under 9m at all? There is some competition from BBC1, nothing that ought break 6m - but enough to take the shine off a lacklustre BGT series.
It happened twice last year for results - most notably on the Wednesday night which posted 7.47m (7.94m inc +1) against The Apprentice. Tuesdays results show was also below 9m. There were also 2 results shows in 2010 which rated below 9m (Wednesday and Friday). And not including +1, 4 of the 5 semi-finals rated between 9m and 9.5m last year.

2 Hour Averages (Inc +1):
SF1 - 11.02m (Up 4% from 2010)
SF2 - 9.60m (Down 6% from 2010)
SF3 - 9.09m (Down 6% from 2010)
SF4 - 9.62m (Up 2% from 2010)
SF5 - 9.53m (Up 4% from 2010)

(2 hour averages assign a weighting of 3x for the first 90 minute episode compared to the 30 minute results).

In terms of series averages, I think the current one is going into the live shows at the highest level since 2009. But it'll likely end up very close between all 3 series for overall average. This could be the second highest rated series of BGT to date which would be pretty good going.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:54
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In America, ratings dipped 40% from the auditions to live shows. In France, the ratings have gone down from 8.5million during auditions to 7million during live shows. In the UK the ratings have dropped 40% from last auditions show to last night. Its a worldwide problem with the format, the format is not unique enough during the live shows to keep viewers sticking with it. Not sure the BBC are allowed to change the format without the permission of Jon de Mol, its up to Talpa to make the changes in the format. The lighting and tension last night was perfectly adequate imo but its obvious the live show format, which is out of the bbcs hands, is hindering its ratings in the UK and around the world.
If BBUS are allowed not to have a vote and BBUK are allowed not to have live feeds.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:59
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Glad The Voice is getting the ratings it deserves, it will drop a lot further I hope,really is unwatchable in my opinion, this sort of rubbish should not be the sort of programme the BBC is spending 25 million on.
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:05
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There are things they could do with The Voice to try and differentiate it a bit more, perhaps. So don't do a cold open - I thought Holly was going to stand in the middle of the stage, stare down the camera and say "This.... is Aaaaaaaaaammmerican Idol". In the end she did go with This Is The Voice. X Factor did without the cold open for years before *ahem* borrowing it from Idol when they decided they wanted Dermot to be all Seacresty.

Beyond such small tweaks, I'm not sure changing the live show format is that easy. How do you make a fundamental change to it? We've already got the element of judges competition. X Factor has widened the net in terms of contestants as far as it can possibly go. So what is the "spinning chair" idea for the live shows?

For now, it seems like John De Mol has created half a brilliant show and filled in the gaps with a somewhat sub par version of the Fuller/Cowell/Fremantle formula.

Whoever comes up with a variation on the live show format could make millions!
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:08
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Far from 'mayday' ratings for The Voice. Concern yes, but I'm sure its rating average is far better than what they expected in hindsight.
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:16
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Next year the BBC should have more blind auditions and fewer live shows, so they top load the series towards the higher rating blind auditions. This year they have 4 auditions, 2 battles and 6 weeks of live shows. Next year they should do 7 auditions, 1 battle, 3 weeks of live shows. For the live shows, I think they should:

Have a 2 hour live show with 2 contestants from each team performing so 8 overall. Have a Eurovision-esque vote in that 2-hour show with us finding out the results from different regions, with the top 4 going through to the final. Do the same thing for the 2nd live show with a further 8 contestants. Then in the final 2.5 hour show, there'll be 8 contestants and do the Eurovision-style voting again, so we find out who ultimately is 'The Voice of Britain'.
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:17
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The Big Brother thing tonight is eye flashes. They start during Home and Away.
Sounds like the eye flashes start at 6.10pm, with an advert of some kind at 10pm.

You know you're sad when this kind of thing excites you. Can't wait to see it!
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:19
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Good grief, so someone comes up with a "spinning chair" gimmick tagged onto a singing contest, and makes millions from all around the world. Incredible.
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