The F1 on BBC will be way higher than 2.5m, should be at least 1m higher. A Monaco GP has never gone as low as that!
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I think a few F1 fans would be rather pleased if it beat The Voice this weekend, though I doubt it'll get that high on a day like today.
For gods sake - it's "The Voice". Really it's not so long a programme name it needs abbreviating!
The BBC promos now only ever seem to be extended versions of the opening titles, which is a shame really.
Hope the French Open does decent business for ITV1 and ITV4 this week - with more and more wholes in the BBC schedules it would be nice to see ITV1 prop up their dire weekend daytime schedules with more (non-football) sport over the next few years, and considering the BBC only showed the semi-finals and finals of the Aussie Open I wouldn't mind ITV taking those rights too.
Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“TV audience was climbing until 7:30, then a dip at 7:45. At which point the football started, then at 8:00 Eurovision ensured BBC1 would easily win the night.
BBC1 (and many people) will be hoping for a cooler weekend next week.”
“TV audience was climbing until 7:30, then a dip at 7:45. At which point the football started, then at 8:00 Eurovision ensured BBC1 would easily win the night.
BBC1 (and many people) will be hoping for a cooler weekend next week.”
For gods sake - it's "The Voice". Really it's not so long a programme name it needs abbreviating!
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“As has become typical I have no idea what's going on with the BBC ad. Having said that I cannot wait to see the Olympics ad. God knows what random animated nonsense they'll pull out of their hats for that one.”
“As has become typical I have no idea what's going on with the BBC ad. Having said that I cannot wait to see the Olympics ad. God knows what random animated nonsense they'll pull out of their hats for that one.”
The BBC promos now only ever seem to be extended versions of the opening titles, which is a shame really.
Hope the French Open does decent business for ITV1 and ITV4 this week - with more and more wholes in the BBC schedules it would be nice to see ITV1 prop up their dire weekend daytime schedules with more (non-football) sport over the next few years, and considering the BBC only showed the semi-finals and finals of the Aussie Open I wouldn't mind ITV taking those rights too.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“what gave me away?
it looks like a massive ego stroking attempt by ITV, nothing more nothing less.
As for England chances, well im too much of a realist for an advert to tell me other wise, the advert also reminded me of the time ITV didnt show the winning goal, I guess on a deeper level the advert seeks to ignore that both the England team and ITV sport are no where near as good as they used to be.
England wining the World Cup in 66, and now arnt likely to win, and ITVs long track record of (apparently) excellent football coverage, but more recently better known for missing goals.
Maybe ive been thinking about this to much.
I dont get why we all pretend that the unlikely will happen, as ive mentioned before the best sporting moment for me was the Red Soxs coming back from being 0-3 in the championship series against the Yankees, and everybody pretty much writing them off, then the miracle happened. IT would have been less of a special moment if the pundits had been saying "yeah the Red Sox are 0-3 down on the series, but I still fully expected the Red Sox to win this. series, when anyone could tell you it is the most unlikely thing that could happen.
Meanwhile when it comes to British talent, why do we kid ourselves? you just have to look at Eurovision to see the hype did not match the song.”
“what gave me away?
it looks like a massive ego stroking attempt by ITV, nothing more nothing less.
As for England chances, well im too much of a realist for an advert to tell me other wise, the advert also reminded me of the time ITV didnt show the winning goal, I guess on a deeper level the advert seeks to ignore that both the England team and ITV sport are no where near as good as they used to be.
England wining the World Cup in 66, and now arnt likely to win, and ITVs long track record of (apparently) excellent football coverage, but more recently better known for missing goals.
Maybe ive been thinking about this to much.
I dont get why we all pretend that the unlikely will happen, as ive mentioned before the best sporting moment for me was the Red Soxs coming back from being 0-3 in the championship series against the Yankees, and everybody pretty much writing them off, then the miracle happened. IT would have been less of a special moment if the pundits had been saying "yeah the Red Sox are 0-3 down on the series, but I still fully expected the Red Sox to win this. series, when anyone could tell you it is the most unlikely thing that could happen.
Meanwhile when it comes to British talent, why do we kid ourselves? you just have to look at Eurovision to see the hype did not match the song.”
Someone was on Breakfast on BBC1 this morning commenting on Eurovision and he said that Germany didn't think they would ever win Eurovision again because of all the block voting until they did in 2010 and Sweden didn't think they would ever win it again until they did last night so it's not beyond the UK to win it if we can find a song that can make the right impact.
But, like ITV1's Tuesday flopzone, the UK in Eurovision faces a catch 22 situation. If ITV1 have a programme strong enough to win big ratings on a Tuesday then they won't to waste it by scheduling it on a Tuesday. And if a British song-writer can come up with a song brilliant enough to win Eurovision they won't want to waste it on Eurovision.
As for England in the Euros - if they can get out of the group stages then they only need to sneak 3 wins (perhaps on a penalty shoot-out) to win the trophy. This tournament has produced big surprises in the past. Denmark won in 1992 when they only qualified because war-torn Yugoslavia got chucked out. And unfashionable football nation Greece won in 2004.
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Is a BATA a BAFTA with the F words taken out?
The 2 hour build up is for charity isn't it?”
“Is a BATA a BAFTA with the F words taken out?
The 2 hour build up is for charity isn't it?”
It's about making the programme event TV.
The last Soccer Aid in 2010 averaged 5.45m in the officials plus whatever it got on HD. The BAFTA awards on BBC1 that night took 4.17m. Last year BAFTA rose to 5.4m
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“For gods sake - it's "The Voice". Really it's not so long a programme name it needs abbreviating!”
“For gods sake - it's "The Voice". Really it's not so long a programme name it needs abbreviating!
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I'm so glad I'm not the only person who gets annoyed by that abbreviation.
The programme's full title is The Voice UK. I don't mind the non-confusing abbrevaition TVUK.
LOL at John Inverdale having to explain what ITV3 is and where it can be found. Must be expecting a few tennis viewers to be unfamiliar with what this ITV thing is.........
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“As for England in the Euros - if they can get out of the group stages then they only need to sneak 3 wins (perhaps on a penalty shoot-out) to win the trophy.”
“As for England in the Euros - if they can get out of the group stages then they only need to sneak 3 wins (perhaps on a penalty shoot-out) to win the trophy.”
which is the same for everybody, so im not sure why "sneaking 3 wins" is a plan that applies anymore to England than anybody else, and as plans go, its not one brimming with confidence.
I dont think I will be placing a bet on England this time around.
As for Eurovision vs the ITV Flop Zone, im not sure I see that, if the song wins, its going to sell, and will be good for the writer, plus its not like its just the song that matters, few Eurovision songs are excellent, but often winning acts have stage presence and some kind of personality. Be it the group dressed as monsters from Hell, a woman dressed a bit like Xena, a transsexual, or someone ripping skirts off.
In short they have an energy that we didn't have this year, all we had was an old fat bloke, singing a painfully dull song.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“A singing contest with a judging panel, now where have we seen that before.”
“A singing contest with a judging panel, now where have we seen that before.”
New Faces about 35 years ago....
though they did launch some comedians also.
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Is a BATA a BAFTA with the F words taken out?
The 2 hour build up is for charity isn't it?”
“Is a BATA a BAFTA with the F words taken out?
The 2 hour build up is for charity isn't it?”
I am all in favour of charity, ought ITV1 have split it into 2 programmes - pre match and actual game?
4 hours does seem like a tv marathon, I will check out some of it though. It feels a good 5c-8c cooler than Saturday here in the NW (aka Robbie country) Viewing figures could be up or down, depending on who prefers it cooler than baking hot.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“I'm so glad I'm not the only person who gets annoyed by that abbreviation.
The programme's full title is The Voice UK. I don't mind the non-confusing abbrevaition TVUK.”
“I'm so glad I'm not the only person who gets annoyed by that abbreviation.
The programme's full title is The Voice UK. I don't mind the non-confusing abbrevaition TVUK.”
I can't be bothered with that cloying nickname for Coronation St, Corrie, does any other show need a nickname?
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“I can't be bothered with that cloying nickname for Coronation St, Corrie, does any other show need a nickname?”
“I can't be bothered with that cloying nickname for Coronation St, Corrie, does any other show need a nickname?”
The Voice UK ends next week, so no more of that
I do like the Soaps abbreviations - EE CS EM HO NE & HO though, I do appreciate the confusion between TV and TV ... especially if the headline is "20 million watched TV last night"
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“I can't be bothered with that cloying nickname for Coronation St, Corrie, does any other show need a nickname?”
“I can't be bothered with that cloying nickname for Coronation St, Corrie, does any other show need a nickname?”
The point is that TV stands for television and so using the same initialism for The Voice is confusing, especially in a thread like this.
Just typing The Voice or even TVUK would be much less confusing.
Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“The Voice UK ends next week, so no more of that I do like the Soaps abbreviations - EE CS EM HO NE & HO though, I do appreciate the confusion between TV and TV ... especially if the headline is "20 million watched TV last night" ”
“The Voice UK ends next week, so no more of that
I do like the Soaps abbreviations - EE CS EM HO NE & HO though, I do appreciate the confusion between TV and TV ... especially if the headline is "20 million watched TV last night" ”
I don't mind the abbreviations, but I find it out away from here that Coronation St is the only show that seems to have a nickname. I don't hear Panaroma being called Pana.
However, more on topic, I'm going for 4.5 million for Soccer Aid, the heatwave is bound to knock down the ratings.
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“I think The Voice did ok last night all things considered - I know I have ocassionally been critical of it. Its still fatally brown bread though. Elsewhere the football was just about respectable and the Eurovision would do better if they just started it at 10pm”
“I think The Voice did ok last night all things considered - I know I have ocassionally been critical of it. Its still fatally brown bread though. Elsewhere the football was just about respectable and the Eurovision would do better if they just started it at 10pm”
Given what the football rated, I don't think The Voice disgraced itself at all. The shock for me was how few viewers the match pulled in - I was expecting nearer double what it got. Proof, if ever it was needed, that all broadcasters need to pull their fingers out if they want to engage viewers. Or maybe television has just stopped being 'special' to people now?
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Someone was on Breakfast on BBC1 this morning commenting on Eurovision and he said that Germany didn't think they would ever win Eurovision again because of all the block voting until they did in 2010 and Sweden didn't think they would ever win it again until they did last night so it's not beyond the UK to win it if we can find a song that can make the right impact.
But, like ITV1's Tuesday flopzone, the UK in Eurovision faces a catch 22 situation. If ITV1 have a programme strong enough to win big ratings on a Tuesday then they won't to waste it by scheduling it on a Tuesday. And if a British song-writer can come up with a song brilliant enough to win Eurovision they won't want to waste it on Eurovision.”
“Someone was on Breakfast on BBC1 this morning commenting on Eurovision and he said that Germany didn't think they would ever win Eurovision again because of all the block voting until they did in 2010 and Sweden didn't think they would ever win it again until they did last night so it's not beyond the UK to win it if we can find a song that can make the right impact.
But, like ITV1's Tuesday flopzone, the UK in Eurovision faces a catch 22 situation. If ITV1 have a programme strong enough to win big ratings on a Tuesday then they won't to waste it by scheduling it on a Tuesday. And if a British song-writer can come up with a song brilliant enough to win Eurovision they won't want to waste it on Eurovision.”
I think the UK faces a bigger problem in Eurovision: the increasingly corporate nature of pop music. Sweden not only won Eurovision last night - it's also a source of writers and producers who have international success with their work. What is the BBC supposed to do? Turn to them for a winning song? Quite aside from how much they would doubtless charge, I can already see the hysteria from the likes of the Daily Heil if they ever even strayed near that option.
I can believe that Germany may not have thought it would win - but I don't agree that the same is true for Sweden. Eurovision is a big deal there and the competition for the winning song both intense and a major national event. Contrast that with the embarrassment the show is showered with here and nobody in the music industry wanting to touch it with a barge pole ... we'll never win again until somebody somehow reavmps Eurovision's image in the public eye. Simon Cowell, perhaps ...?
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“I think the UK faces a bigger problem in Eurovision: the increasingly corporate nature of pop music. Sweden not only won Eurovision last night - it's also a source of writers and producers who have international success with their work. What is the BBC supposed to do? Turn to them for a winning song? Quite aside from how much they would doubtless charge, I can already see the hysteria from the likes of the Daily Heil if they ever even strayed near that option.
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“I think the UK faces a bigger problem in Eurovision: the increasingly corporate nature of pop music. Sweden not only won Eurovision last night - it's also a source of writers and producers who have international success with their work. What is the BBC supposed to do? Turn to them for a winning song? Quite aside from how much they would doubtless charge, I can already see the hysteria from the likes of the Daily Heil if they ever even strayed near that option.
”
Funny you should say that cos our entry last night was co-written by Martin Terefe who is a Swedish record producer and songwriter....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Terefe
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Funny you should say that cos our entry last night was co-written by Martin Terefe who is a Swedish record producer and songwriter....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Terefe”
“Funny you should say that cos our entry last night was co-written by Martin Terefe who is a Swedish record producer and songwriter....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Terefe”
Ah, sabotage.
Soccer Aid pretty lacking right now, this will really drag down the average. Dermot sat with Hollywood stars, fawning as usual. One more hour of build up to go!!
I do hope they raise a lot of cash though.
I do hope they raise a lot of cash though.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Funny you should say that cos our entry last night was co-written by Martin Terefe who is a Swedish record producer and songwriter....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Terefe”
“Funny you should say that cos our entry last night was co-written by Martin Terefe who is a Swedish record producer and songwriter....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Terefe”
Ha! I didn't know that!
Quick - tell the Daily Heil our Licence Fee is being handed over to Sweden ... :yawn:
Im a bit worried that Soccer Aid might take away viewers from The Voice tonight. I just looked on Zeebox and for the first time this series apart from BGT, a show is matching The Voice on Zeebox. Normally on Sundays the Voice has been beating the ITV1 shows on Zeebox so easily. Also all the Twitter trends are Soccer Aid instead of The Voice 
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Alliss just said "contact us now, this maybe your last opportunity to speak to us live from here at Wentworth after 50 odd years. We're disappearing into that great country club in the sky, some of us, but we'll miss you"”
“Alliss just said "contact us now, this maybe your last opportunity to speak to us live from here at Wentworth after 50 odd years. We're disappearing into that great country club in the sky, some of us, but we'll miss you"”
Sad. He mentioned it today as well. I can see Alliss retiring soon because he has not got much to commentate on.
Ken
The results of the BAFTAs are on Twitter, tweeted by the official Bafta account. Why do they keep doing this?! Why not have it live, it'd get more viewers. Its so frustrating.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Well if there was any doubt about next series, its being advertised already.”
“Well if there was any doubt about next series, its being advertised already.”
It's a 2 year deal so it's not really a suprise.
Look at it this way. It's given BBC One some sturdy performances on Saturday so far. It's performed better than SYTYCD so it hasn't been all a disaster.
Ken
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Well if there was any doubt about next series(of TVUK), its being advertised already.”
“Well if there was any doubt about next series(of TVUK), its being advertised already.”
Means nothing. They were advertising for contestants for Total Wipeout during the recent run of Winter Wipeout but the series was cancelled and those contestants are no longer required.
But, on the other hand, why would there be doubt over a second series?
The Blind Auditions did brilliantly.
The Battle Rounds did very well.
And the live shows were actually doing well until the BGT final forced The Voice into a earlier slot. The week before the BGT Final, The Voice took 8.1m in the overnights and 9.3m in the officials topping the BBC1 ratings.
If they gave second series to Fame Academy, Strictly Dance Fever and So You Think You Can Dance then they're going to give a second series to The Voice.
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