BBC have the rights to tonight, I think.

I see what you're saying but stuff like the tennis which they were showing instead does enhance the brand values even if it does not enhance ratings.

If they were showing their usual rubbish in daytime then I would agree.

Sounds like the BBC's coverage yesterday, except the personel were different.


ITV did air their own Jubilee Pageant yesterday but named it appallingly. The broadcaster are stuck between a rock and a hard place - most people watch BBC One anyway so they must wonder what the point is.

Nobody can joke about what ITV would do, following what the BBC actually did do yesterday.

Write down all the features included in yesterday's broadcast and that would also sound just as unbelieveable.

Do you happen to have a share for the news? I reckon the concert tonight will get about 11-12 million. Tomorrow morning will be interesting

ITV has picked up a bit in recent years and the tennis was a gamble for them, which they wouldn't have taken in the noughties, but their main channel has this low rent image that will take years to shake off. Also ITV2 is still seen as a television station for HEAT magazine readers even if they have binned some of their faces like Katie Price and Kerry Katona.

If the comments in the thread on here were anything to go by, you're right, there were a few people saying they'd go to Sky but didn't have a dish etc. If you assume people who can find and post to a forum are reasonably savvy then there must've been plenty of others who felt the same. Or who thought Sky would be all adverts.

Regarding the BBC Wedding vs Pageant coverage - most of ITV's vox pops were ahead of the wedding. If the BBC had covered the wedding as they did the Thames, they'd have been cutting away to zelebs just as we were about to see Kate's wedding dress for the first time or during the vows.

Yes, I'm sure for lots the idea of all the boats was dull. But it was *about* the boats, remember "Britannia rules the waves"?? I wanted to see as many of the boats as I could, I didn't mind a bit of history chat over the top of the pictures. I wanted to see two of our greatest Olympians rowing the amazing Gloriana down the river at the head of 1000 vessels.

I only wish we could have had something like the Mary Rose sailing.

There are some stunning photos in the press today.

Stellar guests on The One Show tonight (Sir Elton John, Sir Paul McCartney), think it could do very well as a pre-cursor to the main event.

ITV didn't show.
The River pageant - as they had live sport
The concert - as it is a BBC event

ITV are showing:
Tuesday's live celebrations
The Queen and I (2 parts)
Countrywise Jubilee (2 parts)
Prince Charles: The Royal Restoration
Elizabeth: Queen, Wife and Mother
All the Queen's Horses special
William at 30

Hardly abstaining from coverage.

As per usual ITV can't do right for doing wrong.

Correct as it is rare the main ITV channel shows sport other than football. However, I do admire them for taking this gamble and apparently the 400,000 who tuned in were impressed with the coverage. Also anything has to be better than ancient Murder She Wrote repeats and the usual daytime chavfest like Jeremy Kyle and This Morning.

I meant yesterday's pageant. Sure tonight is a bit of an exclusive event.


I see your point, and totally agree if they had just showed usual stuff it would like they were ignoring rather than offering an alternative. However, in my opinion either option doesn't present ITV with a positive message. And unfortunately for them reinforces the perception that the BBC are the channel for national or world events especially when they are simulcast. Kind of damned if they do, damned if they don't.

If that's what ITV2 is seen as then they are doing a good job, as that's what they are hoping for.

Heat magazine is a fairly successful magazine I believe, along with the dozen other similar publications

(I hope you are all playing Glenn A post bingo at home by the way)

I haven't read this opinion anywhere. I have however read comments slating yesterday's BBC coverage.

I also will read comments on Tuesday when people complain that the same thing is on both channels.

"Which housemate are you most looking forward to seeing- the beauty queens, the porn dtar, the former gangster or the playboy bunny?" Edward Gleaves twitter account, showbz reporter of the Daily Star

Inital signs suggest that it Looks like they havnt listened this year again. I expect disappointing ratings again if the mistakes of last year are not rectified.

The perception that the BBC is the choice for events is overwhelmingly concluded based on rating evidence when sporting or national events on BBC ONE and ITV1 are simulcast. Typically rating ratios of 3:1 or 4:1 are not uncommon IIRC.

I think this is a little more substantive than a couple of hundred negative comments on this web forum and twitter accounts.

The Daily Star have got so many things wrong with regard to Big Brother since it landed on Channel 5 it's hardly a credible source. Ignore the common ownership, they are probably guessing.

Jamie East has spent the day interviewing the housemates and described them as "awesome" adding viewers "won't be disappointed." But then he would say that, of course.

https://twitter.com/#!/mrjamieeast

John Inverdale just now said Andy Murray's Quarter Final match on Wednesday will be on Itv1.

It was 3:1 for the Royal Wedding. I suppose that's closer than the gap between the two channels yesterday!

EDIT: Andy Murray's match has just finished in the French Open. I still think they should've aired at least that on ITV1 and re-scheduled accordingly.

Programme change
John Inverdale on ITV4 has just said that the French Open tennis quarter-final between Andy Murray and David Ferrer will be shown live on ITV1.

No I doubt they would so brazenly lie about the contestants jobs. Especially as he was directly asking his followers which one they most looking forward.

If it does turn out to be true, what are your thoughts?

Quoting an Big Brother employee seems abit redundant also, he's hardly going to come out and say "They're a damp squib this lot- don't bother!"

They should have shown it live the week earlier as although it would have been up against F1/Golf coverage I'm sure it would have rated better. Anyone who cares now either watched it on the red button or if they didn't certainly are aware of the result.


I think you're showing your ignorance there to be honest. Murray isn't quite preparing for his retirement yet.



Exactly - for many people ITV Sport is all about football and this is showing it can do other sports justice too. I'd imagine if you asked people their opinion on ITV Sport last weekend and this weekend their views might have somewhat changed.


Makes sense - though might have been a slip of the tongue. Talking of which I think Inverdale has avoided any BBC references so far!

Going by The One Show countdown it looks as though the concert will start about three minutes early.

EDIT: They were actually just counting down to the end of the programme.

Most people wouldn't have glanced at ITV yesterday whether they were showing coverage or not. The BBC could have John Sargeant and Anne Widdecombe presenting naked and the majority of viewers would still stick with it, ITV still wouldn't win if Cheryl Cole presented their coverage naked. The BBC is the establishment broadcaster, public funded, channel 1 in every home in the country etc. That all being said, ITV could have got better ratings for coverage of the pageant than the French Open. I don't think they should be obligated to cover this stuff and personally I like the variety but sometimes it might make practical sense to cover it (as with the Royal Wedding).

As for the French Open, it's nice that they're trying but it's obviously not delivering. Not this year at least. I think it might be a more important project for ITV4 - indeed it might be an idea that next year they present it using the ITV4 branding on ITV1. A bit of brand building for ITV4 which I feel is sometimes forgotten about when it does seem to be building a pretty good sports portfolio.

Personally, I tuned in to BBC1 yesterday during what I'm assuming was the Horrible Histories segment. Thought WTF, they went back to the studio and I flicked to Sky News. They were at least showing some boats but the whole thing was so bleak I turned off anyway. I probably wasn't ever part of the likely audience!

As for The Apprentice, that's a pretty poor end to the series. Does anyone know what the overnight series average was and how it compares to previous years?

I wish there was an online stream, as I have a feeling the BBC will keep popping up with interviews.

I have to admit TOS doing a good job in building-up to the concert.

I wonder if we'll have a situation where Corrie's big Jubilee/Wedding episodes tonight will rate lower than Saturday night's The Voice Final. That would be a bit embarrassing for ITV.