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The Ratings Thread (Part 35)
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AlexiR
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by C14E:
“I'd maybe also switch Glee and X Factor on Thursdays unless Mr Murphy has something brilliant up his sleeve to turn things around. Whatever goes at 8pm might struggle against TBBT.”

He doesn't.

Kevin Reilly (Fox's entertainment president) has confirmed that next season Glee will split between focusing on graduating characters moving to New York and some returning and new characters in McKinley. No confirmation yet on whether that split will happen within episodes or whether as rumoured earlier in the year the show will alternate between episodes set in New York and episodes set in McKinley although Reilly's comments of suggest it'll all happen within one episode. Kate Hudson and Sarah Jessica Parker will also have multi episode guest arcs. The reasons not to watch this show just keep growing.
Joe40
14-05-2012
Gary Neville appointed as an England assistant coach, will stay with Sky Sports.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...aff?CMP=twt_gu

Joey Barton takes last night's MOTD criticism VERY badly...

https://twitter.com/#!/Joey7Barton/s...94713799213056
GeorgeS
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Lets says that The Voice UK has production costs of £15 million for each of its two series. Add that to £25 million license fee (although wasn't it £22 million not 25?) and you get a price tag of £55 (or 52) million. That sounds like a lot (and in fairness it is) but over two years the BBC are getting at least 40 hours of content which would give The Voice a per hour average of £1.3 – 1.4 million. That's high but its not as absurdly big as people want to suggest.”

Dale Winton's ratings for Jonathon Ross's salary.
Barkers_Nipple
14-05-2012
BBC1's schedulers should be looking at themselves and wondering how they took a 10 million rated show down to 6 million and the answer is horrible scheduling.

Stick with your guns and start the voice at 7pm every Saturday. Don't worry about the opposition. If you're strong enough, so will the programme be.

I'd also suggest taking each programme down to an hour unless they incorporate the results in to Saturday night's show as don't forget 90 mins on ITV is realistically 60 mins at most, 90 mins on the BBC is just that and sometimes it's been a hard watch for such a long time.
derek500
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by fodg09:
“334k for Awake on Atlantic is pretty solid considering they did a relatively small campaign for it in comparison to Smash, which has 289k in the officials. Obviously cancelled this week which is a shame, Awake seems like the kind of show that would be getting c1m on Sky 1 (admittedly available in more homes than Atlantic via its carriage on Virgin Media).

The main repeats for Smash and Awake were also both over 100k.”

Episode two of Smash was up considerably (percentage wise) for both the first showing and the repeat, compared to the first episode.

It tends to be the more 'male' skewed shows that are performing better on Atlantic a trend that is traditional for Sky1 too, so Smash's figures aren't too bad. Good to see it growing week on week, not many scripted shows do that.

They put a repeat of the first episode of Awake on Sky1 last week, that may help the figures grow and piss off VM customers at the same time!!
C14E
14-05-2012
I think The Voice UK is a bit like a certain other talent show on the other side of the Atlantic. FOX spent big on X Factor hoping for huge ratings that would put it among the top few shows on TV - perhaps second to American Idol. They got good ratings, but below what they wanted. Nonetheless, the benefit of aiming high is that if you fall short it's not always the end of the world.

The Voice was meant to topple Cowell or at the very least compete with him- and for a few weeks it looked like it might. I don't for a second think that BBC1 are too pleased with ~6m ratings, even if you discount the 10.7m number a few weeks ago.

It's falling short of what might have been hoped of it but it's still doing well by most standards. It's turning out a lot of hours, generating a lot of press, drawing a relatively young audience and doing better than the alternatives.

I don't think there has ever been any doubt about its return next year (indeed, the contract was for 2 series!).
C14E
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by Barkers_Nipple:
“BBC1's schedulers should be looking at themselves and wondering how they took a 10 million rated show down to 6 million and the answer is horrible scheduling.

Stick with your guns and start the voice at 7pm every Saturday. Don't worry about the opposition. If you're strong enough, so will the programme be.”

I suspect this weekend is a bit of a blip and it will recover a bit. But previous ratings gave them reason to be wary, especially if there was a chance of the BGT final starting at 6.30pm. In that scenario, they'd probably have ended up no better off. Possibly worse and certainly with more attention on the gap. I can see why they blinked.
domesticated
14-05-2012
1 THE VOICE UK (SAT 1912) 9.36M
6 THE VOICE UK RESULTS (SUN 1914) 7.24M

final timeshift ratings for Bank Holiday weekend. Still the BBC's number one show!
Kapellmeister
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by domesticated:
“1 THE VOICE UK (SAT 1912) 9.36M
6 THE VOICE UK RESULTS (SUN 1914) 7.24M

final timeshift ratings for Bank Holiday weekend. Still the BBC's number one show!”

Nice
Score
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by C14E:
“I suspect this weekend is a bit of a blip and it will recover a bit. But previous ratings gave them reason to be wary, especially if there was a chance of the BGT final starting at 6.30pm. In that scenario, they'd probably have ended up no better off. Possibly worse and certainly with more attention on the gap. I can see why they blinked.”

It was kind of a lose-lose situation for them, although one of the options would have dragged BGT down with them quite a bit and the other wouldn't, and they went for the one that was best for ITV, although I doubt that bit was intentional!

It's doing well but not as well as they might have liked or hoped for (particularly after the first few weeks). They might be better to move it to January next year where the nights will be darker and it'll be out of the way of any major competition. I don't think going against BGT again would be a great thing for them to do as I doubt they'll match the figures they got for the blind auditions this year again. They should look to get the 6-6.5m the live shows seem to have settled at up into the 7's and Q1 against sod all is a better place for them to do that than Q2 against BGT and facing various disruptions (Eurovision, Champions League Final etc). They'll not manage to get the level of hype they had by the end of the auditions again next year as people know what's coming now and don't seem to like it as much, so they may struggle to come across as a major rival to BGT again, so getting it away from it would probably be a good idea from their perspective.
F1Ken
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“I think it was a new Lewis episode, judging by the amount of magazine covers last week”

New series starts on Wednesday and I can't wait. Lewis is my favourite show on ITV.

Good to see the voice has stopped falling. Next week will be interesting.

Ken
AlexiR
14-05-2012
Britney Spears and Demi Lovato (who I've never heard of) will be officially unveiled as the new judges on X Factor US at Fox's upfront this afternoon. Both signings are pretty much the worst kept secrets of the up front period this year.

And speaking of poorly kept secrets NBC's Bob Greenblatt has just confirmed at NBC's up front that this will be the final season of 30 Rock.
Pizzatheaction
14-05-2012
Nice bounces for Voice and Planet Earth Live from their most recent editions, and the last-minute Lewis repeat faring a lot better than a last-minute Vera repeat would.

Emmerdale is not strong enough to anchor an evening on its own at the best of times, let alone now when most of its fans are slagging it off. I had the misfortune to see an episode during the week, and I can safely say that's the worst portrayal of mental illness I've ever seen on television. Emmerdale will have a few weeks of respite before the football starts, but I predict a long, difficult ratings summer ahead for it.
jonnyblack
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Britney Spears and Demi Lovato (who I've never heard of) will be officially unveiled as the new judges on X Factor US at Fox's upfront this afternoon. Both signings are pretty much the worst kept secrets of the up front period.”

She's a Disney Channel star. Or was. She had a well publicised stint in rehab to do with eating disorders and was commended for her bravery in bringing that story out in the open. She's also had a semi successful music career thus far, both in the US and here in the UK. She'll be good for the teen viewers.
fodg09
14-05-2012
Lovato an important get for X Factor as I think I am right in saying the show skewed older in its first season then they would have liked. Plus, like Spears she will bring make headlines.
Jonwo
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“He doesn't.

Kevin Reilly (Fox's entertainment president) has confirmed that next season Glee will split between focusing on graduating characters moving to New York and some returning and new characters in McKinley. No confirmation yet on whether that split will happen within episodes or whether as rumoured earlier in the year the show will alternate between episodes set in New York and episodes set in McKinley although Reilly's comments of suggest it'll all happen within one episode. Kate Hudson and Sarah Jessica Parker will also have multi episode guest arcs. The reasons not to watch this show just keep growing.”

This won't work at all, it would have been easier just to reboot it with new characters, the New York move sounds more like a spin-off within a show.

I think unless Glee manages to pull it off, this will be the last season joining a long list of shows that seem to die in their fourth season.
Agent F
14-05-2012
Two fantastic signings for XFUS. Almost makes you wonder what they were thinking last year.
Jonwo
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Two fantastic signings for XFUS. Almost makes you wonder what they were thinking last year.”

Have they announced who the new host is, anything better than Steve Jones at this point.
Agent F
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Have they announced who the new host is, anything better than Steve Jones at this point.”

I doubt they'll have to look very far to find someone better than Steve Jones.

I've not read anything. I guess they'll announce the host with the rest of the panel.
derek500
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by F1Ken:
“New series starts on Wednesday and I can't wait. Lewis is my favourite show on ITV.

Good to see the voice has stopped falling. Next week will be interesting.
”

We enjoy Lewis, too. Endeavour, based on the pilot, will be a worthy successor.

As for The Voice. I don't mind ITV having their reality/talent blockbusters as it it pulls the money in to help pay for quality scripted like Lewis.

IMO The Voice is just taking wasting licence payers money when quality BBC scripted is thin on the ground.

They could have devised their own format and got similar figures to what they're getting now.
Jonwo
14-05-2012
I think the next series of Lewis will likely be the last but ITV will hopefully give it a good sendoff.
Sad_BB_Addict
14-05-2012
"Channel 4 chief upbeat despite main network's audience share dropping
David Abraham says impact of channels 'is as great as ever' as portfolio including E4 offsets loses of main network"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...-balancing-act
Pizzatheaction
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by derek500:
“We enjoy Lewis, too. Endeavour, based on the pilot, will be a worthy successor.

As for The Voice. I don't mind ITV having their reality/talent blockbusters as it it pulls the money in to help pay for quality scripted like Lewis.

IMO The Voice is just taking wasting licence payers money when quality BBC scripted is thin on the ground.

They could have devised their own format and got similar figures to what they're getting now.”

Did you want to see Voice on Sky One?
AlexiR
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Have they announced who the new host is, anything better than Steve Jones at this point.”

That they've managed to keep quiet. I suspect because they haven't got one yet. It seems they've put all their efforts into signing the new judges (which makes sense). Cowell has been pretty clear that it'll be two co-hosts though. At least if he gets his way.

Also trailers for (most) of NBC's new shows now up on their YouTube channel if you're interested.
Pizzatheaction
14-05-2012
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“That they've managed to keep quiet. I suspect because they haven't got one yet. It seems they've put all their efforts into signing the new judges (which makes sense). Cowell has been pretty clear that it'll be two co-hosts though. At least if he gets his way.”

I wonder how much the host matters, really. The UK hosts haven't been a barrier to the show's success.
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