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The X Factor USA judging panel confirmed as Simon Cowell, LA Rulz, Britney Spears and Demi Lovato.
It sounds as though Raven Symone is going to be co-host. It's rumoured that the male co-host will be Chad Michael Murray. |
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I suspect that £22m is very similar to the Cowell deal and therefore includes everything except the deals for judges and presenters as Cent has said.
Apparently Will.i.am is getting £500k, Tom Jones is said to be on £250k with Jessie J and Danny getting £200k and £150k respectively. Holly is apparently on £400k, and whilst I don't know what Reggie is getting it'll probably be less than Holly (say £200k). So that comes to a total of £1.7m, alongside the £11m for this year's rights and production. They're airing around 21 hours of it this year so that works out at approximately £600,000 per hour all in. As others have said that's more than Strictly but it's hardly as much as the media are making it out to be. That's cheaper than most 9pm dramas for instance, and probably similar to what they spend on The Apprentice. I bet ITV spend a similar amount on Dancing on Ice too. As for Cowell's shows, ITV pay £40m per year for TXF and BGT (I think Red or Black is done separately). Over the 63 (ish) hours they get out of the two shows per year that works out at approximately £635k per hour for production and rights. Last year Gary apparently got £1.5m, Louis and Dermot £1m each, Kelly £500k and Tulisa £300k. That comes to a total of £3.3m which over the c42 hours the show aired for that works out at c£100k per hour, meaning that last year ITV were paying approximately £735,000 per hour for The X Factor. I suspect that's quite a bit cheaper than it was in 2010 when Cowell and Cole were getting much more than any of last year's lot. Indeed I think BGT is probably more expensive than TXF per hour nowadays as Cowell and Ant & Dec are both on it. BGT is probably close to £1m per hour all in with those involved (and I bet Walliams didn't come cheap either!). |
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Dale Winton's ratings for Jonathon Ross's salary.
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Either that or release The Voice contestants onto the set of Planet Earth live and let the one that can run the fastest be the winner.
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Emmerdale is not strong enough to anchor an evening on its own at the best of times, let alone now when most of its fans are slagging it off.
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The Voice is just suffering from the same thing that The X Factor, Dancing On Ice and Britain's Got Talent have gone through recently - over expectation.
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Although we were always going to get someone having a go at posting excuses...
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Hm. Nothing to do with being forced into ever-earlier slots on ever-lightening/warming evenings, by any chance? And some unfortunate (but entirely foreseeable) scheduling clashes?
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They wanted to air it the same time as Britain's Got Talent they have to accept they would have competition. But the shares could've been stronger than they were/are.
In fact, one wonders if they even checked there was nothing else of major national significance happening on the weekend they pencilled in for the Final.... |
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Like I said, it was entirely "foreseeable". But whilst ITV did bring BGT forward deliberately as a blatant spoiler, which the Beeb may not have expected, I do think the BSI forgot all about the FA Cup being pushed back into the evening schedule and the Champions League Final now being on Saturday evenings; and did they forgot all about Eurovision, despite it being on the same channel?
In fact, one wonders if they even checked there was nothing else of major national significance happening on the weekend they pencilled in for the Final.... I think the BBC are actually hoping the Jubilee will boost The Voice for it's final. They obviously didn't think it through in regards to Eurovision and the football, though - but maybe they couldn't get it on air any sooner? |
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In fact, one wonders if they even checked there was nothing else of major national significance happening on the weekend they pencilled in for the Final....
) and those big late-season football matches, but would there be any googlies ITV1 could throw in during that period?
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Some have suggested starting TVUK much earlier next year. If it's 11 weeks again like this series, how about starting on Saturday 12 January and finishing on Saturday 23 March, the weekend before Easter? It would avoid BGT (hopefully
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Fox's animations looking a bit low.
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Desperate Housewives seems to have gone out on a high which is nice, whilst Survivor looks underwhelming by CBS standards.
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the issue is how the BBC has spent millions of pounds of licence-payers' cash buying-in an international format. Their unique funding is there for them to innovate and create (and yes, come up with their own formats).
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This (http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/fox-...g/#more-272104) has proven what I've always assumed, Fox are the American ITV. Instead off focusing on their new shows and successes they bring up other networks failures, it's just pathetic and exactly the kind of behaviour we see from ITV. The only difference is that Fox sometimes airs good shows.
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This (http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/fox-...g/#more-272104) has proven what I've always assumed, Fox are the American ITV. Instead off focusing on their new shows and successes they bring up other networks failures, it's just pathetic and exactly the kind of behaviour we see from ITV. The only difference is that Fox sometimes airs good shows.
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This (http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/fox-...g/#more-272104) has proven what I've always assumed, Fox are the American ITV. Instead off focusing on their new shows and successes they bring up other networks failures, it's just pathetic and exactly the kind of behaviour we see from ITV. The only difference is that Fox sometimes airs good shows.
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This (http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/fox-...g/#more-272104) has proven what I've always assumed, Fox are the American ITV. Instead off focusing on their new shows and successes they bring up other networks failures, it's just pathetic and exactly the kind of behaviour we see from ITV. The only difference is that Fox sometimes airs good shows.
I think it's unfair to say ITV don't make good programming but each to their own. ![]() On a lighter note, of course The Voice has placed itself against a Syco show again. I wonder if both shows will benefit from the hype like they did here? |
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Here is the X Factor section of the upfront presentation for anyone interested,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hs_e...ature=youtu.be |
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It sounds as though the presentation has finished without the hosts being announced. They're probably studying how much of their budget they have left afer splashing out on the panel!
I've been dismissive of the UK panel v US panel argument before but could this possibly hurt the UK show? The US have Britney and Demi (who is reasonably well known over here) plus L.A. Reid who is a hit maker. In comparison we have an unpopular - in terms of The X Factor - Gary plus Tulisa and Louis and one other; probably either Dannii or Alesha Dixon. Last year the UK panel looked weak beacuse the US stole half the panel (but the US panel didn't look overly bigger name-wise compared to the UK version). Now the US panel have big names and the UK have... The question is whether the UK show needs big names or will it hold it's own without them? |
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Huh? How often do ITV do that?
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Like I said, it was entirely "foreseeable". But whilst ITV did bring BGT forward deliberately as a blatant spoiler, which the Beeb may not have expected, I do think the BSI forgot all about the FA Cup being pushed back into the evening schedule and the Champions League Final now being on Saturday evenings; and did they forgot all about Eurovision, despite it being on the same channel?
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BGT was brought forward because of the Champions League, the England international and Soccer Aid taking up the weekends. Stephen Mulhern said as early as January that the show would return in March so it wasn't a massive surprise.
BGT obviously has to plan its live week well in advance to book studios and technicians and make sure the judges have their diaries free. |
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Trailers up on Fox's YouTube account for their new shows. They look pretty good.
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Trailers up on Fox's YouTube account for their new shows. They look pretty good.
Quite intrigued by The Mob Doctor, less sure on The Following but it does seem to have a stellar cast. |
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I believe now that the BBC feigned indignity at BGT's earlier start and they knew damn well where BGT was going to begin when they scheduled The Voice to start that particular weekend.
BGT obviously has to plan its live week well in advance to book studios and technicians and make sure the judges have their diaries free. Great panel on paper for XFUSA and it should certainly launch well, although as always, where it ends up will depend on how it plays out on screen. Auditions for the UK show with the judges begin next week so they'll be making an announcement soon. They really need to get it right this time (I really liked Alesha on BGT but she should stay there, so if doing XF would mean that she'd leave BGT then they should get someone else). They need to make more on-screen changes too as the revamped BGT will completely show them up if they don't. Everything they did with BGT this year was great, so they've shown that they are perfectly capable of getting it right. What I did notice about BGT this year was that Cowell was very hands-on with the whole production (more so than before I think), and he won't be able to be like that with XFUK, so they need to get the right people involved backstage, as they can't afford to mess it up again. |
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It didn't seem overly hilarious but Ben and Kate looks like a good fit for New Girl.
Quite intrigued by The Mob Doctor, less sure on The Following but it does seem to have a stellar cast. Mob Doctor looks much better than I expected. My problem with both Fox dramas though is that I have no idea how either one sustains itself for multiple seasons. The Following (urgh, please change that name Fox) in particular. |
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Some have suggested starting TVUK much earlier next year. If it's 11 weeks again like this series, how about starting on Saturday 12 January and finishing on Saturday 23 March, the weekend before Easter? It would avoid BGT (hopefully
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Lovato an important get for X Factor as I think I am right in saying the show skewed older in its first season then they would have liked. Plus, like Spears she will bring make headlines.
It's a total 180 in terms of the panel. Where last year was safe and low profile this year both of them are tabloid fixtures and incredibly risky. In Britney they've gone just about as high profile as you can possibly get. Demi's not an A Lister by any stretch but she's kind of like Cheryl was in 2008 - high profile at the time and garnering a lot of sympathy. Britney could be a total car crash. But she was once very "All American" and she may still pull it off. Pretty Southern blonde, young mother, come through hard times etc... She'll have some support as her fiance/agent is rumoured to be an Exec Producer as part of the deal (Cowell's alleged involvement in his appointment as co-conservator has got him some stick from Britney fans!). Perhaps also some demographic engineering here - obviously both appeal to a younger audience but also Britney being from the South where these shows tend to do so well and Lovato's hispanic appeal (they hope!). As is always the case with these shows, it has been a badly kept secret. The big difference is that this year, the announcement includes the biggest name that was rumoured and both names capable of generating some buzz. Whereas last year a procession of A Listers were linked then it was a bit flat (FOX/Cowell perhaps thinking they could afford to play safe). Quote:
This (http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/fox-...g/#more-272104) has proven what I've always assumed, Fox are the American ITV. Instead off focusing on their new shows and successes they bring up other networks failures, it's just pathetic and exactly the kind of behaviour we see from ITV. The only difference is that Fox sometimes airs good shows.
But anyway, they're not the worlds toughest jabs. Advertisers show up to these things with a limited budget and money that goes to NBC won't go to FOX. Additionally, Kevin Reilly was once fired in controversial circumstances by NBC. Everyone takes shots at NBC because it's so damn easy to do. And The Voice was a pretty direct attack on Idol/X Factor, especially with the move to fall. So a bit of rivalry isn't surprising. |
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There is the 6 Nations, but no reason why The Voice couldn't air after a tea time match; dunno if any primetime Saturday night fixtures are planned for 2013, but unless they feature England I guess that won't be an issue as they would air on BBC2. Let's Dance for Comic Relief, assuming it returns, will need to air in the weeks running up to Comic Relief Night though of course, and that will presumably be the Friday before Easter (15th March?)
Perhaps we should wait and see, we haven't even devised our Xmas schedules yet! |
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