Agree it's good news - looking forward to the new daytime schedules in the autumn.

Why shouldn't they move it back? After all they are a commercial broadcaster protecting their interests.

Maybe Auntie should try out Songs Of Praise, Antiques Roadshow & CTM away from a Sunday then?

You know very well DIY SOS is not cheap filler and always rates really well, as most filler does on BBC1.


Ratings for ITV seem much closer to BBC1 than we have been lead to believe, there's only 0.08m in it until 12:15pm. Quite good for 'tired old This Morning which only ever discusses Kerry Katona & last night's soaps' (apparantly)

Interesting that The Chase is now ahead of Pointless, especially as The Chase starts 15 minutes earlier when there are less viewers available.

Whereas the opposite happens on BBC1 due to people tuning in early for the Ten O'Clock News

It's probably best to use the middle two quarters to see if people are turning off, to remove these problems.

Wonder where Person of Interest will go when it airs in July, my guess would be either Wednesday or Thursday as Tuesday will be likely be home to the final season of CSI: Miami.

With no football and a gap now Miami has gone, I imagine Channel 5 will be looking for shows at the LA Screenings, I think they'll be interested in The Following, Vegas or Elementary on the drama front but I think they should go for comedies this year and air them on Fridays after Big Brother/The Mentalist.

Busy week, only just heard the news about Person of Interest. I'm so pleased C5 got it, it fits the channel extremely well. A bit surprised too due to the length of time it has taken, I thought maybe someone else had snapped it up and the best they could hope for was a second run a la NCIS and others. I shouldn't have doubted. They are very on the ball at the moment their acquisitions team, not missing a trick. Okay, so maybe there's an argument now for Homeland given how well it rated, but it was high risk and I doubt even C4 expected that one to become as big as it did. C5 have played it a little safer, playing to their strengths mostly ("Body of Proof", "Person of Interest"), but also showing they are not afraid to go for something a bit different and outside their usual comfort zone ("Once Upon a Time", "Dallas"). Hopefully Person of Interest will become the smash-hit they have been searching for, I think it might.

July is not far away at all. Cannot wait as I've heard great things about this show, and it could start big. I'd imagine we could be seeing promo as soon as a few weeks time, perhaps during the Big Brother launch. The good news about being so far behind is they'll be able to show the second season quite quickly, unless they choose to hold off and make this the permanent replacement for CSI: Miami. But it might be better to switch CSI: New York to the summer to keep the Tuesday 9pm slot filled with CSI all year round as they pretty much do at the moment.

Also saw the first promo for Marco Pierre White's Kitchen Wars last night. Nothing too exciting, just a short 10 second clip of Marco standing around looking mean and a knife hitting the floor. Looks like that will be coming on around the same time as BB so lots happening on the channel over the next few months.

Like you, really looking forward to this too. Always enjoyed Hell's Kitchen on ITV, though thought his last show for them (can't remember the name) was disappointing.

I think Thursdays seems the most logical day, I imagine Dallas will take Wednesdays for 10 weeks from August or September.

I think CSI: NY could get moved to Summer, I think next season will be the last anyway, it'd be good for a new show to get that Saturday slot, maybe Body of Proof could move there.

I can see them going for Elementary or Vegas, the latter could easily air alongside CSI.

The BBC Executive estimate an increase in BBC1's viewing share during the CBBC slot of between 9 and 13 % points when the children's programmes are ditched, leading to an all-day share increase of 0.4-0.6%.

They think BBC2 will gain in the morning (by getting rid of low-rating kids' TV) but lose more than that in the late afternoon because they will be showing factual repeats rather than (as now) mixed-genre stuff, mostly factual entertainment (some repeats, some new). Overall across the day they predict a 0.5% fall in BBC2's share, although the Trust thinks it may be a smaller drop.

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/...ns_content.pdf

So the BBC's two channels will probably tread water, taken together, or rise very slightly. Careful scheduling will be needed to ensure BBC2 doesn't fall too much in the 1500-1715 slot, IMO.

It looks like ITV's plan to air a full live series of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? featuring members of the public has been backtracked.

Instead, they have commissioned a series which will run every night for seven nights in July but only three of the show will feature members of the public. The other four will be for celebrities. They will also add an interactive function where you can play along online.

No doubt the celebrity bookers will scrap the barrel even more and continue to pick celebrities who have already been on the show. Even with the next special for this Sunday. This will be Paddy McGuinness's second appearance and Eamonn Holmes's third appearance.

So true - it's been a different show this week without the teens.


The state Hollyoaks is in at the minute I don't think viewers would switch from C4 to E4 or E4 to C4 if one edition was axed. I still think financially they're better off keeping with the first look strategy as I think they can make more money from advertising with 0.5m on E4 and 1m on C4 than say 1.25m on C4. The extra viewers who might tune into C4 wouldn't equate to the same extra revenue IMO.

As for Later - I reckon it'll play during the Paralympics when presumably Hollyoaks will take a break for a week - or be exclusive to E4.


I'd have thought by now ITV would have claimed the Wednesday 7.30pm slot back for Corrie, keeping the 8.30pm Thursday edition until Euro 2012 is out of the way.

And I've said it before but irritates the hell out of me that the BBC commission episodes of EastEnders for days they know it's not going to air. By my calculations they will be having to reschedule 9 episodes during the Olympics, at least 4 during Euro 2012 and then one for the Jubilee, Sport Relief and Children in Need. That is 16 episodes in total this year - a months worth. At a time of budget cuts that really can not be justified IMO.


I thought Hart of Dixie had been axed, but obviously not. Even with international and DVD sales I just don't get how the CW survives as after all the other networks get just as much, if not more, income from such sales too.


During the first week matches would usually be on BBC2 anyway and in the second week now they've got the roof there is no reason for him to play on days other than scheduled (so Mon, Wed, Fri) anyway.


POI seems a natural replacement for the axed CSI franchise and I agree that C5 acquisitions are really ahead of the other FTA channels at the moment.

And talking of shows partnered with BB has there been any more news on a second series of The Bachelor(ette)?


Oh dear - they'll never learn. Millionaire returning to it's routes was the most interesting thing to happen to the show in years - but now they've ruined it all once again by going back to boring old celebs. Even the celebs can only win £250,000 at most now for their charity - and that is time permitting, with them having to play in pairs and split it not just with their partner, but with a viewer or audience member too.

I think if Millionaire had gone right back to it's roots, reinstated the old 15 question money tree and done a nightly series featuring the public (pre-recorded, but close to transmission) it could have won back a few viewers.

But wouldn't they get bucket-loads of complaints if episodes were dropped? 'Dear Points of View, it's bad enough we have to suffer all this sport, but why oh why are we missing out on our beloved EE?'
Anyway the episodes during the Olympics fortnight will be on BBC2

Yeah don't worry about the people that want to watch EastEnders...

Anyway during the Olympics EastEnders will not be out of it's slot it will just be on a different channel (BBC2)

DS seem to think that Wednesday 6th June ep is an Hour-Long

Those episodes will be on BBC2 - replacing cheaper content and splitting the ratings for EE and the Olympics meaning neither of which will benefit.

Yes, people would complain but frankly they need to be put in their place by such an action so they understand that soaps aren't the be all and end all of television as frankly as good as all the soaps have been at some point in their time they are crippling prime time TV at the moment - and also completely failing in producing new talent of note who go on to bigger and better things - mainly because the focus of TV is so soap orientated their isn't much else for UK actors to go on and do.

I tend to find when I want to specifically tune in for the Ten O'Clock News, I press the 1 button at Ten O'Clock.

The clue is in the title...

I think EE should have been rested for 2 weeks, and save the Beeb some money. The show will get lost completely to millions of viewers hidden away on BBC2, and it could do more harm burying it than resting it.

Maybe you should go knocking on ITV's door then.
Tell them to cut back an episode of Emmerdale and Drop Double Corries

EastEnders on BBC2 and the Olympics on BBC1 will mean viewers have a choice and if neither of them take their fancy then there's other channels. And if that doesn't please them
maybe they should turn the TV off and do something else

A bit of an illogical argument when EastEnders and the Olympics are broadcast on BBC, while Emmerdale and Coronation Street are on ITV.

I think it's pretty stating the obvious regardless that those two weeks on ITV will consist of soaps, repeats and things that have been 'on the shelf' for ages so it doesn't really matter in any case.

Brekkie was speaking as there's too many soaps on primetime at the moment. And not during the Olympics/Euro12


The BBC will likely Advertise all programes that Move from BBC1 to BBC2. I bet EastEnders picks up at least 5 million on BBC2(Each night)

Ah, the murky financial world of The CW.

As a general rule of thumb its safe to assume that as a network The CW is in fact losing money. The reason the lights stay on and they keep broadcasting is because the shows they make turn a profit for their production companies, exclusively Warner Bros. and CBS Studios for The CW, who also happen to own the network. It would stand to reason then that both Warner Bros. and CBS are making enough money from the shows on the network to offset the loses the network is making. A large degree of that will be clever accounting though. It should also be noted that The CW's content is made on noticeably smaller budgets than those of the major networks and noticeably smaller than the major networks could get away with. For various (and increasingly archaic reasons) the 'big four' pay a premium for being the big four.

Broadly speaking though it should be noted that the vast majority of shows that are sold internationally tend to turn a (small) profit or at the very least break even or come close for their production company. The issue is that for 90% of these shows the majority, if not all, of their budget is covered by the US license fee (this isn't entirely the case with The CW content) so if the US network isn't making money from the show they don't want to keep paying huge sums of money for it. Occasionally you'll see production companies cutting (and in some cases slashing) license fees for US networks to keep production going in part this is because the international revenue, DVD sales and domestic syndication can ultimately be used to offset the cost.

If you look at a show like Heroes for example (a show which is a perfect for so many things) it probably wouldn't have lasted anywhere near as long as it did if it hadn't been massively popular internationally. It was the huge license fees that NBC Universal was able to command for the show in foreign markets that allowed NBC to pay very little for it and for the directive to be passed down that it should be renewed. It was only when NBCU was looking at having to renew those international deals and realising that broadcasters weren't going to pay the same high sums that Heroes got canned. A few years ago a lot of people though international sales would save FlashForward but overlooked that its ratings trajectory internationally was similar to that in the US and international broadcasters weren't prepared to pay the big license fees they paid for the first season.

Fringe is the current obvious example of a show that's using various non-network income to help finance seasons that Fox ordinarily would want nothing to do with.

I've gone slightly off track here but the financial model The CW use is why I've always found it very curious that they aren't more heavily invested in comedy and that neither The WB nor CBS batted an eyelid when they canned comedy on the network. Its odd.

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Anyway in other news entirely the big news coming out of USA Networks upfront appears to be that as of the end of July WWE Raw will be expanding to 3 hours permanently. In theory that should provide a slight up tick to USA's weekly average throughout the year. May cause some problems internationally for WWE though if their current network partners aren't willing to ramp up to 3 hours every week. Presumably Sky will have no problem with that though since again it should provide a decent increase for Sky Sports ratings wise throughout the year in an otherwise dead slot.

Got a link? Can only find filming videos on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMsIOegrdSA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOoKt8VFB30

I'm not entirely sure I agree with the suggestion that EastEnders should have been rested during the Olympics. The ratings argument is neither here nor there - EE will be knocked but it's resilient and bounces back time and time again.

BBC One is going to be dominated by the Olympics but it's vitally important that the Beeb is also offering an alternative during the games. There will be a significant audience out there who simply don't want to watch the Olympics 24/7 and the BBC is meant to cater for all. I think they've got it spot on. It's right that BBC One should be given over to the games because of the nature of the event, but it also makes sense for EastEnders to be moved over to BBC Two when you consider the length of the games.

I don't think it's about soap fans getting what they want - I do think you get a lot of moaners who complain anytime a sport event bumps the soaps and it is rather pathetic - but in this case considering the length of the games I think it's fine that EE is being kept on.

I do think for one-off events like CIN they should just not have an episode rather than rescheduling it at a later date though.

What I find really annoying with rescheduled EE episodes is that the BBC insist on rescheduling in the nearest available slot, rather than waiting until storylines dictate. What's wrong with holding a displaced episode back 3 months if there is a big storyline that could use the extra episode? And if there is no 'editorial need' for a displaced episode, don't bother with it

As for the Olympics, it impossible to please everyone. On one hand there will be many EE viewers who have no interest in the Olympics, and they have to be catered for. But on the other hand many EE viewers will also want to watch the Olympics - and there will be no 10pm BBC3 repeat during the games. I just hope EE gets the 11pm slot on BBC3 during the Olympics, offering people a chance to watch both the Olympics and EE. If EE doesn't get a decent repeat slot then it could be 'damaged' ratings wise after the Olympics if some viewers get out of the habit of watching and don't immediately return

I thinkt he BBC has that covered, There's more happening this summer than there was for most of last year put together.

Sharons return will also be a big draw which should be once the Olympics are over

The Murder Reveal,Janine's Exit and A Death(no-one knows who yet) all happens during the Summer (late summer)

Lewis and The Apprentice performed well; Lewis was never going to perform as well as it did on Sunday's. BBC One had a steady night in general with DIY: SOS also doing decently. Felicity Kendal's Indian Shakespeare Quest and Emergency Bikers appeared to struggle somewhat by 24 Hours in A and E picked up a good figure considering the opposition. NCIS also recorded a reasonable rating.

Great - we'll get bloody captions over the action telling us EE is over on BBC2. It's bad enough the BBC will endlessly feel the need to stick up a caption telling us they're broadcasting from Olympic Park.