Wait was EE/Emmerdale not against each other? Thats what I thought when I saw those figures, very low for both :/
Decent repeat for EE though, and shares were decent tbf.

For Silk thats a brilliant rating, just look at eveyone else! Haven't watched it myself but obviously it has a good strong core audience.

6.5% share on ITV1 primetime. I really don't see why Tuesdays should be bad for them automatically, I just don't. But that is dreadful. Can't blame the weather as the shares the weakest thing!

No ratings for BBC1's Holby City or C5's War Hero in My Family but could ITV1 have been 5th in the slot?

No they wasn't

They didn't clash last night, they were in normal slots.
EDIT: what dan2008 posted

Horrdendous rating for Martin Clunes and his horses. You almost have to say well done to Dirty Britain for doubling it's lead-in.

As if ITV weren't thin enough on the ground for programmes at the moment, let's just say it looks like Piers Morgan's Life Stories might not be back for a while after today's installment of the Leveson Inquiry.

Jokes aside though, there's a good format buried in Life Stories somewhere. They should carry it on even if Morgan runs into legal trouble, there's plenty of people who could do it.

I think BBC is showing Holby at 8? BBC Scotland has opted out to show a documentary about Rangers. 3 things mentioned in it are all among the top 10 UK Twitter trends. Might give BBC 8pm ratings a minor boost tomorrow as a bigger % of Scotland will be watching this it seems than whatever is usually on.

Oh my goodness. Absolute horror show of a rating. Remember folks that is ITV1 PRIMETIME!!!

It'll be interesting to see what ITV1 do with Tuesdays and Wednesdays when the Champions League kicks in. Will the flop zone continue in non-footballing weeks or will they try and eliminate it altogether airing crime dramas both on Tuesday and Wednesday, even if it's mainly repeats on Tuesdays.


You would think Hollyoaks has reached the point of no return now - it's been trying to sort itself out for about three years now but just keeps getting lower and lower.


P.S. In other news ITV and C5's licence is due for renewal and OFCOM have published three proposals today, one of which is a possible franchise auction. The status quo is probably more likely though, with one option to keep things exactly as they are and the second to tweak the ITV franchises so Wales is considered a separate franchise and Border Scotland is handed over to STV.

ITV are also proposing slashing the length of their lunchtime, nighttime and weekend bulletins by half and knocking 10 minutes of actual regional news off the 6pm bulletin (to be replaced with pan-regional content). However they are proposing to increase the number of regions back to 17 - the pre-2009 level before all the mergers.

I know Martin Clunes was a repeat but that rating is terrible! I feel BB in 2 weeks time will have no worries up against it, a new episode of it will get around 2m. I reckon Silk will remain at around 5m.

Terrible for EE. Terrible for all except Silk.

Martin Clunes: Horsepower was a 2 part series and that's it finished. For the next two Tuesdays it's all-new Countrywise Jubilee. The Tuesday afterwards it's Poland v Russia (that's the Euros in case anyone doesn't realise) and the Tuesday afterwards it's England v Ukraine.

What's that likely to get?

Strange how when Eastenders rated poorly last night the weather excuse comes into play, yet when ITV1 has poor ratings last night everyone blames the actual viewing figures. :yawn:

I think Salv is referring to this:


This will face the Big Brother launch show.

It is summer but every year is slightly worse ratings wise, winter autumn summer spring.

Worse for the "Big 5" that is (is ch5 big?) Just in case Dancc is watching it is now.

It's a classic managed decline. BBC1 is putting up the greatest fight, but it too is going down...


Of course there are lots of channels, but there is always lots of competition in any business area.

Your average corner shop is no competition for Tesco. And yet a teeny tiny channel could end up beating ITV1 in primetime any day now.

Shocking that people like Adam Crozier (ITV boss) still get employed

Yeah I'm sure he was, but I doubt it'll be as low as 2m. Horsepower got 4.5m and 4.3m for its 2 episodes in the overnights when it was first shown, on Sunday nights with a lead-in from Heartbeat. It'll probably get about 3.5m I'm the Tuesday flopzone, and it will probably be pretty close between it and BB although the demos will be vastly different!

Good night for BB to launch though - it should do well. Kitchen Wars has been given a great slot and should perform strongly. I'm looking forward to that one and hope it's a success for them.

Dreadful for the Clunes repeat, but it would be unwise to judge how a new programme will perform based on the ratings for a repeat.

Eastenders got a 35% share, which is only slightly lower than a normal Tuesday. Horsepower got ITV's lowest ever rating in that slot. There is a slight difference.

I'm not going to make any predictions until nearer to the time, but I'm sure they'll be more than happy with the hand they've been dealt. It's close to the dream scenario.

Silk will win the slot easily in Total People but not in BB's key demo where it only had 411k 16-34 yr old viewers at last count. Nothing else really stands out as a threat.

American Idol adjusted up two tenths in finals to a 4.4, but still two whole points down from the finale performance show last year.

Bad news for Glee, however, it went down to a 2.9. Despite being a season finale with an Idol lead-in, it was beaten by America's Got Talent and Dancing With The Stars which both got upward adjustments to 3.3's.

In total viewers, DWTS' 17.8m topped the night with Idol's 14.9m in second but Idol's results show tonight ought to top that.

That's like saying if your corner shop is cheaper than Tesco on one product line then the whole of Tesco's empire will come crashing down.

The first few warm days of Summer always have low ratings because everyone makes the most of it. Cue all the predictions of disasterious ratings lasting every night until September.

Then what happens is the weather cools off and everyone goes back to normal, and the ratings pick up to normal 'summer' levels.

Well, the Tesco comparison is somewhat misleading. There were corner shops/ small shops before Tesco. Tescco was taking business away from those shops. BBC1, 2 ITV and C4 were the first, predating satellite TV.

And of course, with every passing year there are more and more viewing options for potential viewers - through on demand services etc etc. The key for commercial broadcasters is maximising earning potential from these sources and I think we are still in the early days of this.

It certainly couldn't have tuned out much better for them. The launch got 2.6m last year but that was the night after the CBB Final, so I think they'll definitely want to beat that this year, and they'll be hoping for 3m+ I think. Can't remember exactly what CBB launched with - was it something in the high 3s? This series will probably launch a bit below that but hopefully not too much lower.


NBC has to be pretty chuffed with how AGT has coped in the main season. Last night it faced the Glee and DWTS finales and had a repeat as a lead-in and it managed to win the 9pm hour (DWTS only had the same average as the 10pm hour pulled it up). That's pretty good going and it's only been a few tenths below last year's numbers, despite it facing no competition last year and getting loads of promotion on The Voice. Hopefully it'll go up a bit next week now that DWTS is done. AGT is also skewing quite a bit younger this year so far, although that might just be due to DWTS nicking a load of the older viewers! A 1.7 for the repeat wasn't bad at all considering the original screening was only 24 hours earlier and it was against Idol. It did better than most of NBC's new content does!

Glee ended on a poor note and I suspect it won't last much longer - it's a waste of the XF/Idol lead-in next season. DWTS and Idol both well down on last year and both shows should make some big changes before they return.

On another note, XFUK seems to be getting a bit of coverage already which bodes well as it could have been a bit of an uphill struggle to even get the press to talk about it much after last year. Geri Halliwell's entrance will have certainly helped! She might not be particularly 'relevant' any more but she's bonkers and they could probably do worse than giving her the job permanently. She'd be much more entertaining and fun than Kelly was anyway.

I'm surprised the Daily Mail if they're thinking the Voice is a flop hasn't had articles like:

'Bombbusters'/Flopbusters or 'Mayo revival beaten by singing grannies, Jedward and Hannah Spearrit's soon to be sister in law'.

And the revived Blockbusters has had a load of hype and publicity (promoted on TV and in newspapers) as well just as much The Voice has had, and also has a media giant like FremantleMedia behind it.

The launch of CBB 2011 got 5.1m in the overnights, 5.3m in the officials, so Silk kind of numbers. For the civilian BB 2012 launch, I reckon 3m is entirely possible given the competition, although it's slightly weather-dependent, just a couple of weeks before Midsummer's Day.

EDIT: I'd forgotten CBB 2012, sorry. 3.5m official for the launch in January, not sure of the overnight.

CBB9 launched with 3.6m officially didn't it? The CBB9 finale was 3.4m officially so I am hoping almost all of the CBB9 final viewers come back for the BB13 launch.