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Respect Gabrielle for...
.....saying NO to Stephen's idea.
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Yep, and he still bitched at her over the phone & in her excitement, she didn't even notice.
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After laura's gone, Stephen becomes the dead weight - getting rid of him sooner is better
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OK, I respect Gabrielle now but I still think that she is not commercially astute. The way her team dealt with the corporate client was unforgiven.
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I really LIKE Gabrielle - like loads.
But she isn't the best business person there by a long way. Ditzy. Damned nice though and all that. |
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.....saying NO to Stephen's idea.
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OK, I respect Gabrielle now but I still think that she is not commercially astute. The way her team dealt with the corporate client was unforgiven.
Her saying no to Stephen was both common sense and her understanding of art and artists: I respect that she took that decision. And I really like the way Gabrielle comes across as a person - have from the beginning of the series actually - so there's absolutely no issue there But when it comes to the core of the matter of this program, namely business acumen, this episode has actually highlighted some of her big flaws. Would I get into business with her instead of someone like Tom, or Nick? Based on everything we've seen so far, certainly not. |
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Gabrielle did really well setting up the gallery. Inviting the artist to create works during the sale was a great idea too. Her mistake was not dealing with the corporate client properly. If she'd done that they would have still had the £11K sales plus a £10K commission. They could at least have had their gin available at the bar.
Stephen's ideas definitely need to stay inside the box, preferably one with a lock on it. |
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I wonder if you really have to be all that astute to see Stephen's ideas for the nonsense they are. That one was up there with the open-topped bus in Edinburgh (you know, the one Adam agreed to)
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I respected Gabrielle saying no to Stephen as well and I thought she did so in a polite way though he took her politeness as an opportunity to put her down
Did anyone wonder where she and the others were when the corporate clienst arrived? It seemed odd that no one was in sight, and that Stephen was so clumsy talking to them and that he didn't mention trying to find anyone else to introduce to them like the artist and then that he left them to it and they were never mentioned again All a bit odd and can't help wondering if it was all in the edit again. We certainly haven't been told the whole story here as it doesn't make sense. |
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That just proves she's not brain dead.
![]() What was he thinking of to even suggest it bloke is an idiot.
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OK, I respect Gabrielle now but I still think that she is not commercially astute. The way her team dealt with the corporate client was unforgiven.
But have to agree though, Gabrielle has no idea how to schmooze the corporate clients, smiling and being nice just isnt enough. |
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I respected Gabrielle saying no to Stephen as well and I thought she did so in a polite way though he took her politeness as an opportunity to put her down
Did anyone wonder where she and the others were when the corporate clienst arrived? It seemed odd that no one was in sight, and that Stephen was so clumsy talking to them and that he didn't mention trying to find anyone else to introduce to them like the artist and then that he left them to it and they were never mentioned again All a bit odd and can't help wondering if it was all in the edit again. We certainly haven't been told the whole story here as it doesn't make sense. |
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Stephen really is the Master of the Bad Idea, isn't he? Utter make-weight.
Gab's weaknesses around commercial awareness are nothing new, but as I've said previously they can be forgiven if she has a great business idea. It's easy enough for Sugar to put in someone alongside her to manage the financials and commercial elements. Ideas are eveything when it comes to finding a good investment, and given Gabrielle's creativity and her fit with Sugar's property businesses (as an architect/designer), she's a strong candidate in spite of her weaknesses. |
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She's enthuisiastic but she doesn't have a head for business, not asking about a budget was downright insulting for a woman of 29.
Could well have been fired for that had they lost. |
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After laura's gone, Stephen becomes the dead weight - getting rid of him sooner is better
hopefully he'll go out in style soon! |
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She's enthuisiastic but she doesn't have a head for business, not asking about a budget was downright insulting for a woman of 29.
Could well have been fired for that had they lost. |
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Tom Pellereau was making similarly naive errors at this stage last year, though. Commercial nous is good, but many creative people lack it - and it's easily covered by assigning a finance or commercial manager to the investment. What matters most is the quality of the business idea. Tom P had it last year. My suspicion is Gabrielle does too, which is why we keep being reminded how creative she is. Anyhow, we'll see ...
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Tom P was poor at selling, by his own admission. He was an 'inventor'. But you have to think his business plan must have had budgets involved or LS wouldnt have given it the time of day.
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I think she's the strongest of the girls left in and will make the final three alongside Tom and Nick
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Being the strongest of this years girls isnt saying much. Arguably the poorest set of females in series history.
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Being the strongest of this years girls isnt saying much. Arguably the poorest set of females in series history.
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I dont know what the whole "brief" was from the gin company, but did anyone see any art that would be suitable for them, because I didnt?.
But have to agree though, Gabrielle has no idea how to schmooze the corporate clients, smiling and being nice just isnt enough. |
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No there wasn't any. They seemed to think the £150 paintings with union jacks in the background would fit the bill. It's odd Gabrielle totally missed the big opportunity because she had organised the gallery show well in other respects. If she'd thought to ask about their budget the penny might have dropped.
So what I ask myself is, was this done deliberately?. I mean, lets face it, when one of the clients you have lined up has a history they want to highlight, why was there no artist that came anywhere near fitting the bill?..... |
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What was seen of the gin company brief seemed to suggest that they wanted something that tied in with the companies history. Frankly, not one of the art works, nor what we saw of the artists themselves fitted the bill.
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All a bit odd and can't help wondering if it was all in the edit again.