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I predict Tom will win.
Sugar didn't care that Tom made a mess of this week's task.
I am 100 percent convinced Tom will win. Nick will come second. I'll revisit this thread when the final episode is broadcast to see if I'm right.
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I hope so I think he is the best one there in my view, but the ones I like always make final 6 but never win so I disagree he will win, I am a omen
I better start supporting Stephen
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Sugar didn't care that Tom made a mess of this week's task.
I am 100 percent convinced Tom will win. Nick will come second. I'll revisit this thread when the final episode is broadcast to see if I'm right. ![]() |
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Me too. And I like him because he admits when he's wrong and seems incredibly mature for his age.
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my favourite, and along with gabriella I think the only one im fond of so I hope youre predictions right
really think sir alan likes adam though |
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Nick will win. Tom is this years Liz / Helen.
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Tom admiited where he got it wrong and that was a first from a PM from what I can remember, fair play to him.
I always said he needs to be PM again for us to judge him more poperly and I think we still need to see him in the role again. He did fall apart when Pure Evil gave him the knock back and that surprised me a bit but he deserves to stay for his general good performances. I got the impression Pure Evil didn't choose Tom's team because P Evil didn't like Tom mentioning other artists and if that was the case I think that was a bit silly on Pure Evil's part. By the way, I think Jade should have gone not Laura. I think Laura went because she may have been on the losing side the most or in the final 3 more than Jade? |
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Tom is the best candidate remaining this season so far.
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I think Tom is absolutely fantastic, up until this week he was practically perfect, pretty much everything he'd done and said was right. This week he took a gamble but at least he had the maturity to admit his mistake, Sir Alan clearly liked that. On the basis of the show so far Tom 100% deserves to win.
Next week is a wine making task of some sort, so either Tom will be made to look pretty stupid, or an absolute genius, given that that's his profession. |
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Tom admiited where he got it wrong and that was a first from a PM from what I can remember, fair play to him.
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I got the impression Pure Evil didn't choose Tom's team because P Evil didn't like Tom mentioning other artists and if that was the case I think that was a bit silly on Pure Evil's part.
No, because he lacked passion for the artist´s work (reminded me of Series 6, Paloma vs. Liz). |
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He's the best candidate IMO. Tonight was his first major error but at least he held his hands up and accepted he'd done wrong. Nobody's perfect and he'll learn from that. I was quite worried Sugar was going to fire him at one point - I wouldn't have been surprised considering some of his odd sackings this series.
I'm a bit concerned about his affection for Adam though. Hopefully he'll come undone in the interviews round (which I fully expect him to make now :-/). |
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I think he's the best candidate left, by some distance.
He's been nothing but great up until tonight's episode and even then he showed redeeming qualities. His whole team said he was a good PM, he adopted a risky strategy that could have gone either way - for him it didn't, but he admitted his mistakes maturely, he sold the corporate deal and was informed, responsive and inquisitive in their meeting. He also gets to the point right away when he speaks which is probably the most refreshing thing, much better than wading through the preamble of most other contestants. |
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Katie and Ricky (only taking into account this series) also did that.
No, because he lacked passion for the artist´s work (reminded me of Series 6, Paloma vs. Liz). The only time I saw that was in the celbrity one where i think it was Gerald (?) Ratner who kept on sayhing he thought his team did well even though they got beaten by the other team etc. |
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See I thought this task showed Tom to be an awful candidate. It had little to do with him going wrong and more to do with his attitude an demeanor as a consequence.
He might have put his hands up to where things went wrong. The problem was he spent the second half of the task in a sulk over it and seemed to have pretty much given up. He took a risk with the big, expensive paintings but went in with the attitude they were gonna fail to sell. His selling was atrocious in fact, with the first guy who was really interested in one of them Tom highlighted the size asking him if he had space, then highlighted the high price before drawing his attention away from the expensive picture he was interested in to the smaller cheaper pictures. Then the second guy was practically asking Tom to convince him to buy it and all Tom did was nod and look into space in a defeated 'what's the point' kinda way. Like people have said he hasn't put much of a foot wrong... however when he does I'm now not sure he's the type to dust himself down and come back fighting. |
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Sugar didn't care that Tom made a mess of this week's task.
I am 100 percent convinced Tom will win. Nick will come second. I'll revisit this thread when the final episode is broadcast to see if I'm right. ![]() Remember since the introduction of Partnership the goalposts seems to have changed and when it comes to the final what you achieve during the Apprentice process can be less important then your business plan and what you have achieved in running your own business. I see Tom's job is Director of a Fine Wine Investment Company. What does that mean A company that invests in Fine Wines.I don't think Sugar would ever give his £250k to such an organisation. |
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I like his boardroom strategy for admitting his own mistakes and rarely being as critical and spiteful as most other candidates.
However, I don't know if he's as strong a candidate as I originally thought. He seems to be one of the more intelligent ones left but as for business acumen, who knows? He deserves another chance though, if he'd been fired tonight it would have been incredibly unfair based on his previous performances. |
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It's him or the Market Trader, but to be honest i could care less.
He's competent calm and efficient - but boring as f**k to watch. He's not funny, or interesting to watch, mainly because he reveals verhy little of himself - I can barely recall seeing him smile, let alone laugh. He appears to have no interesting back story, or to have gone on a journey through the series, which redeemed some of the past calm, competent winners like Tim, Michelle and Stella to varying degrees. I'd hire him, but not for a light-entertainment programme with pretensions to being a show about business, which, despite the protestations of Sugar, is what the Apprentice is. (I suspect a genuine show about corporate recruitment would clear the living rooms of the nation in ten seconds flat.) |
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Sugar didn't care that Tom made a mess of this week's task.
I am 100 percent convinced Tom will win. Nick will come second. I'll revisit this thread when the final episode is broadcast to see if I'm right. ![]() |
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It's him or the Market Trader, but to be honest i could care less.
He's competent calm and efficient - but boring as f**k to watch. He's not funny, or interesting to watch, mainly because he reveals verhy little of himself - I can barely recall seeing him smile, let alone laugh. He appears to have no interesting back story, or to have gone on a journey through the series, which redeemed some of the past calm, competent winners like Tim, Michelle and Stella to varying degrees. I'd hire him, but not for a light-entertainment programme with pretensions to being a show about business, which, despite the protestations of Sugar, is what the Apprentice is. (I suspect a genuine show about corporate recruitment would clear the living rooms of the nation in ten seconds flat.) Its nice and good to have someone who seems genuine rather than an always gobby one who's playing up to the cameras saying what the TV company wants to hear all the time. "best sales woman........in Europe". "Not a one trick pony, a field of ponys" or whatever it was that was said that time. Saeed and Tre where funny though. What was Saeeed's surname anyone? What's he doing now? |
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Its nice and good to have someone who seems genuine rather than an always gobby one who's playing up to the cameras saying what the TV company wants to hear all the time. "best sales woman........in Europe". "Not a one trick pony, a field of ponys" or whatever it was that was said that time.
Being genuine does not require you to be bland, dead behind the eyes and almost freakishly taciturn. Tim and other "serious" characters were about as genuine as you could get, but you had a sense of their personalities - they had some emotional hinterland and you could understand their emotions and motivations and thus empathise with them. I'm sometimes impressed by Tom, but nevertheless I half expect someone to spill water on him, only to see him emit a shower of sparks and fall twitching on the floor, with smoke pouring from his mouth and crying "malfunction!" in a metallic voice. Quote:
Saeed and Tre where funny though. What was Saeeed's surname anyone? What's he doing now?
But that's the point - you remember Saeed years afterward (although ironically I forgot his name). How many of this lot will you even recall next year? Precious few I suspect.
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But you're going to the complete opposite extreme and I never advocated that. In actual fact you're making a false comparison, because those characters exist(ed) in this series - they just didn't pull it off with any conviction.
Being genuine does not require you to be bland, dead behind the eyes and almost freakishly taciturn. Tim and other "serious" characters were about as genuine as you could get, but you had a sense of their personalities - they had some emotional hinterland and you could understand their emotions and motivations and thus empathise with them. I'm sometimes impressed by Tom, but nevertheless I half expect someone to spill water on him, only to see him emit a shower of sparks and fall twitching on the floor, with smoke pouring from his mouth and crying "malfunction!" in a metallic voice. But that's the point - you remember Saeed years afterward (although ironically I forgot his name). How many of this lot will you even recall next year? Precious few I suspect. I think Tom on the whole is quite cool, calm and collective but having said that, I thought he was too quiet early on and I think he may secretly bottle up what angers him and he may need to open up a bit more esp with Sugar as Sugar likes to know a lot more about people in general imo. Saeed was very funny generally as well as being a character and I was very envious of him for pulling the gorgeous Michelle Dewbury at the time who always looked mega hot. Tre was even better on the whole, I think Sugar had a bit of a soft spot for him too and was a bit gutted when the interviewers didn't rate him. |
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That's OK.
I'm probably coming across wrong, from all the anti-posts I'm making. I'm actually a huge fan - when I belatedly discovered it, I went back through the old series and it put a smile on my face when I was going through a very dark time. Apart from the fact that the US version often has some unfeasibly stunning women compared with our series, the UK version is 1'000 times better IMO (Brady is bad, but Trump and his children are tw*ts of epic proportions). I'm actually worried that this series might herald a dangerous loss of direction of the sort that eventually became fatal for Big Brother - a show that I also once loved, but that I ended up loathing with a passion. I don't want to see a format that could still have legs if handled well, similarly shoot itself in the foot. If it turns out that the viewing figures hold up to the end then I wont mind as much, as the show will probably live to fight for many more days - it would be able to make any necessary changes without pressure. The problem with these sorts of shows is that when the production team make an error and lose audience share, they tend to panic under the pressure and make more errors in an attempt at a quick fix, which usually just accelerates the decline. I'd hate to see that happen with the Apprentice. I'm detecting worrying anecdotal signs that people I know, away from the sort of hardcore that contribute to forums, are a bit bored with this series, but then I haven't seen if the figures are holding up. |
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As I've been predicting over on my blog, I tipped Tom to win from very early on. Nick is also very strong and I think there's something about Gabrielle's creativity (and presumably her business plan) which Sugar likes. They're my top three by a distance, with the fourth finalist likely to be Ricky for me. But we shall see.
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See I thought this task showed Tom to be an awful candidate. It had little to do with him going wrong and more to do with his attitude an demeanor as a consequence.
. Aside from that moment, overall I don't think he's an awful candidate by any stretch and in the task I don't think he did much else wrong other than go about the wrong way of trying to win over P.E because (imo) most of the artists left were all as bad/good as each other whatever the size, price or style. I mean i hated the Pure Evil pictures, would hate to have a person with bleeding eyes on my wall so how both Gabrielle and Tom knew he was the main man to get was beyond my comprehension! I would not be suprised if Tom won. |
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Nah, I think Tom is peaking too early.
And LS's questions about Tom's motives for being in the show remind me of James Max who was fired at the interview stage in series 1. Tom and James also have the same director/partner in an investment company background. Nick is still my favourite. I get the feeling that they are deliberately keeping him under the radar so that he can really shine at the later stages. |
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