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The single chart top 6, a bit of a sad state of affairs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/top40/
Although I like RnB and some rap, and 1 or 2 of the songs in there, that's a bit sad isn't? An all american top 6? And as I don't know what nationality Michael Gray, Jamelia might the only UK artist in there. Has it ever been that bad for UK acts in the top 10? |
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We obviously need more talent shows, then we can fill the top 10 with british artists.
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The Charts generally reflect the single buying audience, who clearly love imported American "RnB" (it's just pop, calling it RnB is an insult to RnB).
I take no notice of the single charts now - they're almost always full of either American RnB (which I used to like in the 90's until it changed into this rubbish), British pop acts (the cheesy ones, and a lot of the "talent" show ones) and cheeeeeeeesy dance (although I admit to liking Eric Prydz - Call On Me ) We rarely get a top 10 worthy of being there - and I don't just mean that from a personal point of view. I can respect, say, Oasis getting there, but I don't like their music at all. I cannot respect people like Nelly and J Kwon (?) even being SIGNED to a record label...Enough about my taste - the single charts SUCK! |
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My personal take on it is the problem is UK radio. Where i live (south coast) the only radio station that plays new stuff is radio 1. So its basically big promoted pop stuff. If you live in a big city (london, brum, manc, etc) you get loads of stations, all with different new radio, but most of the country misses out on that.
I brought a DAB stereo in the hope of getting more diverse new music, but cant even get 1Xtra. If i (and probably most of the country) have no way of hearing new music (im not gonna pay to download a tune, if i cant hear it first), then how am i supposed to put money into the UK music industry? |
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My personal take on it is the problem is UK radio. Where i live (south coast) the only radio station that plays new stuff is radio 1. So its basically big promoted pop stuff. If you live in a big city (london, brum, manc, etc) you get loads of stations, all with different new radio, but most of the country misses out on that.
I brought a DAB stereo in the hope of getting more diverse new music, but cant even get 1Xtra. If i (and probably most of the country) have no way of hearing new music (im not gonna pay to download a tune, if i cant hear it first), then how am i supposed to put money into the UK music industry? |
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amardell - you can listen to radio online, but I guess that's not the point really, is it? I understand you! I'm originally from Mid lesbrough (North East) and before moving to Manchester there was nothing much than the same old commercial trashy radio to listen to - they only play chart music, basically!
Not that anyone will care, lol, but I'm currently in a kind of transitional music period of my life! I've been visiting amazon.co.uk and .com to listen to previews of artists I've never heard of, and I've been getting into some cool stuff because of it! |
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Ste137, i went through a phase of listening to online radio, the problem is, 90% of stations are less than 128kps, thus even a great record can pass me by, due to the poor quality. Most of the 128k+ stations seem to be commercial, thus getting back to the same old tunes
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I tend to find new music in a few places, but not usually the radio. Friends, online, CDs on magazines, reading magazines, Sky, and so on. Stuff you'll like is out there, you just need to find it.
As for the charts, every now and again I take a listen to see if things have improved, but they don't. On the whole, it's been poor for a long, long time. |
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Originally Posted by DryHumper
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/top40/
Although I like RnB and some rap, and 1 or 2 of the songs in there, that's a bit sad isn't? An all american top 6? And as I don't know what nationality Michael Gray, Jamelia might the only UK artist in there. Has it ever been that bad for UK acts in the top 10?
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Eric Prydz proved that the singles charts can be hijacked by people who actually sell a lot of discs in the shops. Shock, horror.
Well, that's only cos all the pervs (myself included) wanted the DVD video. What a waste of time the singles chart is. |
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Originally Posted by Woody_Brixton
You are not missing much. Here in London we have loads of local stations but you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between them. They all seem to play the same five songs.
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few british acts in top 10:
Lemar - If There's Any Justice Geri Halliwell - Ride It Brian McFadden - Irish Son |
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So, Girls Aloud aren't British then?
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It's going to get worse. No more John Peel championing bands on Radio 1.
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American artists dominate nearly all of the European Charts! They are simply producing the best stuff at the moment.
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I prefer to look at the album charts, with album sales on the rise, and singles on the decline, surely this is of more use to the world, and things actually go up in this chart as well as down!
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Originally Posted by andymwalker
I prefer to look at the album charts, with album sales on the rise, and singles on the decline, surely this is of more use to the world, and things actually go up in this chart as well as down!
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Originally Posted by amardell
My personal take on it is the problem is UK radio. Where i live (south coast) the only radio station that plays new stuff is radio 1. So its basically big promoted pop stuff. If you live in a big city (london, brum, manc, etc) you get loads of stations, all with different new radio, but most of the country misses out on that.
I brought a DAB stereo in the hope of getting more diverse new music, but cant even get 1Xtra. If i (and probably most of the country) have no way of hearing new music (im not gonna pay to download a tune, if i cant hear it first), then how am i supposed to put money into the UK music industry? For decades, the major labels have controlled what's on the radio by paying radio stations to play their songs. Pay-for-play radio (aka "payola") means that independent labels can't get their music on mainstream radio and mediocre major label music gets on the radio just because somebody's paying. Legislative efforts to end the practice have failed consistently. Payola is illegal, but labels simply skirt the law by paying third-party "independent promoters" to pay radio stations. As long as the major labels continue to have huge amounts of money to throw into radio promotion, we'll always have pay-for-play. But we can take the money out of the system. If we stop paying for major label music, we can stop payola" http://www.downhillbattle.org/reasons/ Edit: the legality bit is US-centric, but the principle holds. |
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It's going to get worse. No more John Peel championing bands on Radio 1.
To be completely honest, other than the White Stripes and Pulp when has a band that John Peel champoined got into the top 5? By the way, in NO way at all am I trying to degrade John Peels contribution to music over his career. He was a fantastic DJ, and I always used to love listening to his show. jack jack |
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Did you know the Band Aid single sold 72,000 copies this week. Nothing new there then.
But, that total is MORE than the entire Top 30 singles put together!!! Just goes to show how crap the rest of the Top 30 must be!
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Did you know the Band Aid single sold 72,000 copies this week. Nothing new there then.
But, that total is MORE than the entire Top 30 singles put together!!! Just goes to show how crap the rest of the Top 30 must be! ![]() |
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American artists dominate but the American music charts look nothing like the UK ones. If you think our taste of R&B is bad then Ciara and Petey Pablo's US number one, 'Goodies', will prove you wrong.. then theres Terror Squad who done well in the US (top three) but missed the Top 40 over here.
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) We rarely get a top 10 worthy of being there - and I don't just mean that from a personal point of view. I can respect, say, Oasis getting there, but I don't like their music at all. I cannot respect people like Nelly and J Kwon (?) even being SIGNED to a record label...