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So...is David gay or not?
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The Wizard
11-05-2012
It seems to go a lot further than just a joke or a bit of harmless fun and what does his wife think about all this?

I know if that was my wife she'd be telling me to make my mind up or pack my bags and go and find a bloke to live with because she simply wouldn't tolerate it. I don't think many women would and I think it's an insult to his poor lovely wife who he's clearly stringing along in order to prove that he's not gay. I haven't got any issues with him being gay if that's what he wants to be. I just don't think he should be messing people about saying one thing and doing another.

As a woman, how would you feel if your fella acted like this all camp and made constant jokes about fancying men and being all flirty and made gay innuendo all the time? It's not like he's only done this once or twice either and I don't like how he's trying to make Simon out to be gay too.

If he was your husband wouldn't you be sitting him down and having words about his sexuality? He claims to be married yet jokes about fancying topless entertainers on the show and saying how his favourite act was the Showbears etc. Surely this is pretty insulting to his wife unless of course she's ok with all that kind of thing or perhaps she's just very naive or maybe he's playing her for a fool. This isn't normal behaviour for a straight bloke.

What I kind of feel uncomfortable with is how he insists on denying that he's gay yet continues to act the total opposite. A straight bloke wouldn't go out of his way to make people think he was gay of course unless he was that way inclined.

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/d...-not-gay300312

If he's so bothered about people thinking he's gay then why does he go out of his way to act totally camp as Christmas and make comments about fancying blokes?

Anyone else think he's majorly confused?
Gill P
11-05-2012
No I don't think he is gay. It is all an act.
4smiffy
11-05-2012
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“No I don't think he is gay. It is all an act.”

^^^ this
pothuthic
11-05-2012
He is married to a woman
The Wizard
11-05-2012
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“No I don't think he is gay. It is all an act.”

Well it's an act he's been doing a very long time. If that's true then it's strange why you would go out of your way to pretend you're gay then go to the trouble of trying to prove you're not.

Very odd.
The Wizard
11-05-2012
Originally Posted by pothuthic:
“He is married to a woman”

So was Michael Barrymore
Cissy Fairfax
11-05-2012
I spend little if any time pondering this sort of thing, but if I did would probably conclude the David is a straight man, for whatever reason playing an act where he gives the impression of being camp or even gay. Whereas Simon ... well, I've no idea but can see how some people have drew an alternative conclusion.
Satnavvy
11-05-2012
Originally Posted by pothuthic:
“He is married to a woman”

I think his camp act is verging on offensive to gay men - although I would be interested in what gay men think and am happy to be corrected.
Cent
11-05-2012
Whether he is gay or straight is part of his personal life and no-one's business.

He acts camp to get laughs.
haz_cat
11-05-2012
I think that what has to be remembered is that not only is Walliams (or Williams as he is really called!) is not only a comedian, but an actor and a writer. He takes on the role of a character on BGT and it's quite different to the real David, who many of us have seen in behind the scenes documentaries and in interviews - i.e. Talking about his children's books. So I think his wife must be aware of this and know how to contextualise his actions.

That said, he's very convincing!
The Wizard
11-05-2012
Originally Posted by Cissy Fairfax:
“I spend little if any time pondering this sort of thing, but if I did would probably conclude the David is a straight man, for whatever reason playing an act where he gives the impression of being camp or even gay. Whereas Simon ... well, I've no idea but can see how some people have drew an alternative conclusion.”

I don't think Simon is gay. I just think he's a big kid who refuses to commit to anyone because a) he's too selfish and b) the only thing he loves is money and himself... Oh and his mum. He's a token collector.
ciaociao
11-05-2012
Originally Posted by The Wizard:
“I know if that was my wife she'd be telling me to make my mind up or pack my bags and go and find a bloke to live with because she simply wouldn't tolerate it. I don't think many women would and I think it's an insult to his poor lovely wife who he's clearly stringing along in order to prove that he's not gay.

I just don't think he should be messing people about saying one thing and doing another.”

That’s a ridiculously simplistic and ignorant view. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that a person should “make their mind up” if they feel interested in both sexes (if he even does have an interest!). Even if he does fancy men, that doesn’t mean he can’t also fancy women or be a wonderful husband to his wife!

I’m sure his wife is perfectly capable of discussing any issues with her husband without your concern, but the idea that someone should only express interest in men or women is completely false. As is the idea that he must be “stringing along” his wife in order to “prove that he’s not gay”.

Originally Posted by The Wizard:
“As a woman, how would you feel if your fella acted like this all camp and made constant jokes about fancying men and being all flirty and made gay innuendo all the time?”

Camp does not mean gay, in the same way that macho does not mean straight. I wouldn’t care whether the person my partner expressed interest in was male or female. The only thing I’d be concerned about was whether they were expressing serious interest in another person. If his wife is happy for him to flirt with other people, that’s a personal and private judgement to make between them as a couple.

Originally Posted by The Wizard:
“If he was your husband wouldn't you be sitting him down and having words about his sexuality? He claims to be married yet jokes about fancying topless entertainers on the show and saying how his favourite act was the Showbears etc. Surely this is pretty insulting to his wife unless of course she's ok with all that kind of thing or perhaps she's just very naive or maybe he's playing her for a fool. This isn't normal behaviour for a straight bloke.”

I would not be “sitting him down and having words”, but I’m sure all couples discuss sexuality! There is no reason at all to assume his wife is being “insulted” just because he displays some bisexual tendencies/interest.

Originally Posted by The Wizard:
“If he's so bothered about people thinking he's gay then why does he go out of his way to act totally camp as Christmas and make comments about fancying blokes?”

Camp does not mean gay, and fancying blokes doesn’t automatically mean gay, either. It’s just as likely he’s bisexual, as it is likely he's gay, as it is likely he's just putting on an act (which would actually require him to be very secure in his sexuality!)! Either way it’s their private business as a couple.
pothuthic
11-05-2012
Originally Posted by The Wizard:
“So was Michael Barrymore”

Haha Alwite (15 and know what it means)

Originally Posted by Satnavvy:
“I think his camp act is verging on offensive to gay men - although I would be interested in what gay men think and am happy to be corrected.”

The Wizard
11-05-2012
But he's not saying he's bisexual, he's saying he's totally straight and I don't know of all the straight blokes that i've met in my life that would think of acting like he does constantly. And if you were that bothered about trying to prove your straight then why go around acting like you're gay? He's either gay in which case he's being insulting to his wife or straight and being insulting or patronising gay men.
sadoldbird
11-05-2012
Camp is not the same thing as gay.

And a person's sexuality is no-one's business but their own and the person they are sleeping with.
ciaociao
11-05-2012
Originally Posted by The Wizard:
“He's either gay in which case he's being insulting to his wife or straight and being insulting or patronising gay men.”

No.

It isn't at all "insulting" to gay men to have a camp or flamboyant persona! It isn't like he's representing anyone! "Camp" and "gay" are completely separate. The only thing "patronising" to gay men is the fact you seem to believe a person's camp persona does mean they must be gay.

The fact he's camp does not indicate that he is gay. IF he has any interest in men (something NONE of can know!) then a) that doesn't automatically mean he's gay at all. Sexuality is a spectrum and we have no reason to believe he isn't a brilliant husband and equally interested in women b) that definitely wouldn't be automatically "insulting" to his wife in any way whatsoever!
Midnight Moggy
11-05-2012
Originally Posted by The Wizard:
“It seems to go a lot further than just a joke or a bit of harmless fun and what does his wife think about all this?

I know if that was my wife she'd be telling me to make my mind up or pack my bags and go and find a bloke to live with because she simply wouldn't tolerate it. I don't think many women would and I think it's an insult to his poor lovely wife who he's clearly stringing along in order to prove that he's not gay. I haven't got any issues with him being gay if that's what he wants to be. I just don't think he should be messing people about saying one thing and doing another.

As a woman, how would you feel if your fella acted like this all camp and made constant jokes about fancying men and being all flirty and made gay innuendo all the time? It's not like he's only done this once or twice either and I don't like how he's trying to make Simon out to be gay too.

If he was your husband wouldn't you be sitting him down and having words about his sexuality? He claims to be married yet jokes about fancying topless entertainers on the show and saying how his favourite act was the Showbears etc. Surely this is pretty insulting to his wife unless of course she's ok with all that kind of thing or perhaps she's just very naive or maybe he's playing her for a fool. This isn't normal behaviour for a straight bloke.

What I kind of feel uncomfortable with is how he insists on denying that he's gay yet continues to act the total opposite. A straight bloke wouldn't go out of his way to make people think he was gay of course unless he was that way inclined.

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/d...-not-gay300312

If he's so bothered about people thinking he's gay then why does he go out of his way to act totally camp as Christmas and make comments about fancying blokes?

Anyone else think he's majorly confused?”

It's just his on screen persona! He is probably totally different in real life.

A lot of TV stars (especially comedians) are playing a role whenever they are on screen, even when they are supposedly being themselves.
The Wizard
11-05-2012
Originally Posted by Midnight Moggy:
“It's just his on screen persona! He is probably totally different in real life.

A lot of TV stars (especially comedians) are playing a role whenever they are on screen, even when they are supposedly being themselves.”

I understand the whole being on stage and putting on a face thing. I just don't get why, if he's straight why he has to pretend to be gay all the time as part of this so called act. I understand it when you're playing a character but he's like this in interviews etc And I find it even stranger why he would then go out to prove that he wasn't gay. Surely if you don't want people thinking you're gay then stop pretending to be like that then. This is what I find confusing.

If I acted all camp whenever I went out in public people would make assumptions about me so if I don't want people to think i'm gay then why pretend to be in public. People only form opinions on what they see not what they don't see.
Rene-C
11-05-2012
It's all an act and part of what David Walliams does as a comedian. I'm sure his wife doesn't take it seriously! I think he carries it off well and personally find him funny,
jackbell
11-05-2012
Originally Posted by The Wizard:
“I understand the whole being on stage and putting on a face thing. I just don't get why, if he's straight why he has to pretend to be gay all the time as part of this so called act. I understand it when you're playing a character but he's like this in interviews etc And I find it even stranger why he would then go out to prove that he wasn't gay. Surely if you don't want people thinking you're gay then stop pretending to be like that then. This is what I find confusing.

If I acted all camp whenever I went out in public people would make assumptions about me so if I don't want people to think i'm gay then why pretend to be in public. People only form opinions on what they see not what they don't see.”

I think you're assuming he doesn't want people to think he's gay. I think you assume wrongly. I don't think he is under any illusion what people think of him and he is very probably very secure in his sexuality and doesn't care. What he does in private is between him and his wife.
zx50
11-05-2012
Surely if he wasn't a homosexual and was secure about his sexuality then he wouldn't be bothered about what people thought of him in that department.
diamond1
11-05-2012
Originally Posted by The Wizard:
“But he's not saying he's bisexual, he's saying he's totally straight and I don't know of all the straight blokes that i've met in my life that would think of acting like he does constantly. And if you were that bothered about trying to prove your straight then why go around acting like you're gay? He's either gay in which case he's being insulting to his wife or straight and being insulting or patronising gay men.”



he's not trying to prove he's straight, it's that article saying that, ........... he just took his wife to a gig instead of a male friend


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“It's all an act and part of what David Walliams does as a comedian. I'm sure his wife doesn't take it seriously! I think he carries it off well and personally find him funny,”

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“I think you're assuming he doesn't want people to think he's gay. I think you assume wrongly. I don't think he is under any illusion what people think of him and he is very probably very secure in his sexuality and doesn't care. What he does in private is between him and his wife.”

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“I spend little if any time pondering this sort of thing, but if I did would probably conclude the David is a straight man, for whatever reason playing an act where he gives the impression of being camp or even gay.”

this ^
diamond1
11-05-2012
Duncan Norvelle is straight but his whole routine was based around "camp" .. it's the same thing
TXF0429
11-05-2012
Originally Posted by The Wizard:
“Well it's an act he's been doing a very long time. If that's true then it's strange why you would go out of your way to pretend you're gay then go to the trouble of trying to prove you're not.

Very odd.”

Its part of his persona he got since Little Britain. Its partly how people know who he is.
The Wizard
12-05-2012
Originally Posted by jackbell:
“I think you're assuming he doesn't want people to think he's gay. I think you assume wrongly. I don't think he is under any illusion what people think of him and he is very probably very secure in his sexuality and doesn't care. What he does in private is between him and his wife.”

Well I probably shouldn't make assumptions but if he doesn't want people to think he's gay then why is he so quick to defend his sexuality.

We all do it for everyone we meet in life. We form our opinions from what we see in people and make judgements on how people act when they are around us. If someone acts like a total a.hole every time I meet him then despite the fact that he's probably usually a really nice bloke, if that's the only thing I ever see, then i'm gonna form that opinion of him surely?

I just find it weird why a straight bloke would spend his working career making people think he might be gay then go out to defend himself off stage. I don't know any straight blokes that permanently act gay for a laugh because I believe in order to be like that you secretly either have to be like that or you have to be majorly in touch with your feminine side. And I totally agree that I find him quite funny. I didn't expect to like him as much as I did. I expected him to be another Michael McIntyre being a bit silly whilst being uncomfortable in the situation. Michael seemed totally out of his depth and a bit lost last year being propped up by the Hoff but David W has sailed into his role like a true professional.
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