[batdude_uk1]

Ahhh isn't it nice to support a club that actually has a manager?!

What is all this nonsense anyway about doing things "The Liverpol Way"?
Is that sack a manager, have no clue who to appoint, get rejected by all of the big names, and then appoint someone who is used to relegation scraps every season?

What is our way? Just have 12 managers in our whole history, and just keep finishing in the tpp two places?! Yeah I like our method much better!

[homer2012]

Rooney is on £160,000pw (source manutd.com)

Keane was the highest earner on £70,000pw i believe

[Cantona07]

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[Cantona07]

Originally Posted by batdude_uk1

Ahhh isn't it nice to support a club that actually has a manager?!

What is all this nonsense anyway about doing things "The Liverpol Way"?
Is that sack a manager, have no clue who to appoint, get rejected by all of the big names, and then appoint someone who is used to relegation scraps every season?

What is our way? Just have 12 managers in our whole history, and just keep finishing in the tpp two places?! Yeah I like our method much better!

We have it all to come soon enough.

[batdude_uk1]

Originally Posted by Cantona07

We have it all to come soon enough.

Yes, but I cannot see us being managerless, and people actually distiancing themselves from the job, it will be a dream job for someone to take over.
A young healthy sqaud, with Championship credentials (note not The Championship ), and with money to spend.
I cannot see how anyone would want to turn it down, as Sir Fergie, will not leave us with a bad sqaud.

[batdude_uk1]

Also,I was thinking, now that Rio hasn't been included in the Euro's, could he be included in the Olympics, as one of the over-age people?
Him, Giggs, and Becks?
I doubt it, but I guess until the sqaud is announced, there is still that possability.

[Tribec]

Originally Posted by batdude_uk1

Yes, but I cannot see us being managerless, and people actually distiancing themselves from the job, it will be a dream job for someone to take over.
A young healthy sqaud, with Championship credentials (note not The Championship ), and with money to spend.
I cannot see how anyone would want to turn it down, as Sir Fergie, will not leave us with a bad sqaud.

Just go back a couple of managers ago and see how difficult it was for United to find someone to replace Dave Sexton... If I recall we had 4 guys turn us down.

[Cantona07]

Originally Posted by Tribec

Just go back a couple of managers ago and see how difficult it was for United to find someone to replace Dave Sexton... If I recall we had 4 guys turn us down.

Yes its going to be a very difficult time. The world of managerial appointments in 201* will be very different from the one in 1986. Plus many of our fans will know of no-one but SAF in charge. Add in the fact that he has been around for so long and the culture-shock of a new man at the helm will be huge.

[Cantona07]

Rio should be kept away from the Olympics. He should also launch a foul-mouthed rant at the England set up by way of announcing his International retirement. The way he has been continually shat on by his national team has been fairly disgraceful.

[skimminstones]

rio has no chance of the olympics. Ferguson has already said the only over age player that will be released is giggs. No-one else over age from united will be there. Dunno why people keep asking if this player or that player will be there.

[Fergie86]

Originally Posted by batdude_uk1

Yes, but I cannot see us being managerless, and people actually distiancing themselves from the job, it will be a dream job for someone to take over.
A young healthy sqaud, with Championship credentials (note not The Championship ), and with money to spend.
I cannot see how anyone would want to turn it down, as Sir Fergie, will not leave us with a bad sqaud.

I agree United probably won't be managerless for long because as you point out Fergie will be leaving a fantastic squad in place, but if you was a manager would you really want to take over from Fergie. The man who eventually replaces him is on a hiding to nothing, in all likely hood what ever the next manager achieves it will pale into insignificance when compared to Ferguson's record as no other manager is going to win 12 League Titles and 2 Champions Leagues from 4 finals and be at the club for over 25 years. I think Ferguson's record will put a lot of potential managers off along with the Glazier's in charge who could blame them.

[Tribec]

Originally Posted by Cantona07

Yes its going to be a very difficult time. The world of managerial appointments in 201* will be very different from the one in 1986. Plus many of our fans will know of no-one but SAF in charge. Add in the fact that he has been around for so long and the culture-shock of a new man at the helm will be huge.

This got me thinking, and I mean thinking. As you say for many, they won't know anything other than SAF, some people in here don't know anyone other than SAF. We'll be lucky for a few years yet, but how long will it be before we lose the generation of United fans that can recall both Sir Matt and Sir Alex steering us to European glory or even attending both? The amount of history that generation saw and went through is scary.

How long before some of you lot in here are telling tales to the grand kids of how it was under Sir Alex, how great the team of 99 was and teaching them the treble winning team, as my uncle taught me the name of the Babes. Yet those days approach and soon we'll be asking who can ever do or try and do what Sir Alex has done, how long before we hear, Sir Alex wouldn't stand for that from him, he'd be sold? With regard a United player?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and actually say managers won't be eager to join United when Sir Alex gives up, we are going to have to pay over the odds for who ever unless we promote from within. Who in there right mind would want to try and replace SAF? I'd even go as far as to say Jose may turn it down as well. It's madness trying to follow the legend.

[batdude_uk1]

Originally Posted by Tribec

Just go back a couple of managers ago and see how difficult it was for United to find someone to replace Dave Sexton... If I recall we had 4 guys turn us down.

It was a radically different club back then, I highly doubt many people would reject us this time. Not being arrogent, but we are a big club, and it would be a dream job, as, as I say, Sir Fergie will not leave us, or the next manager with a bad sqaud.

Originally Posted by Cantona07

Yes its going to be a very difficult time. The world of managerial appointments in 201* will be very different from the one in 1986. Plus many of our fans will know of no-one but SAF in charge. Add in the fact that he has been around for so long and the culture-shock of a new man at the helm will be huge.

Yes, it will be a "culture shock" of epic proportions, but the new manager will have a very good sqaud at his disposal, so unless he is incompentant, he will do well.
We will go after who we think will be best for us as a club, when ever that may actually be, and it will be very different from the 1986 search for a new manager, as this is vastly different club, with different needs and ambitions to the one that Alex Ferguson joined.

Originally Posted by Cantona07

Rio should be kept away from the Olympics. He should also launch a foul-mouthed rant at the England set up by way of announcing his International retirement. The way he has been continually shat on by his national team has been fairly disgraceful.

Originally Posted by skimminstones

rio has no chance of the olympics. Ferguson has already said the only over age player that will be released is giggs. No-one else over age from united will be there. Dunno why people keep asking if this player or that player will be there.

I agree with these two points, as I hope that Rio will be kept away, I was just merely wondering aloud, that was all.

[Tribec]

Originally Posted by batdude_uk1

Yes, it will be a "culture shock" of epic proportions, but the new manager will have a very good sqaud at his disposal, so unless he is incompentant, he will do well.
We will go after who we think will be best for us as a club, when ever that may actually be, and it will be very different from the 1986 search for a new manager, as this is vastly different club, with different needs and ambitions to the one that Alex Ferguson joined.

1986 was easy, Sack Ron on Nov 5th, Nov 6th appoint Alex Ferguson.

In 1981, we sacked Sexton, after which Robson, McMenamey (sp), Saunders and if I'm right Clough decline to come to us. It's not like we weren't a big club then, but we weren't known for paying good wages and the spectre of Sir Matt still shadowed who ever managed the club.

[batdude_uk1]

Originally Posted by Fergie86

I agree United probably won't be managerless for long because as you point out Fergie will be leaving a fantastic squad in place, but if you was a manager would you really want to take over from Fergie. The man who eventually replaces him is on a hiding to nothing, in all likely hood what ever the next manager achieves it will pale into insignificance when compared to Ferguson's record as no other manager is going to win 12 League Titles and 2 Champions Leagues from 4 finals and be at the club for over 25 years. I think Ferguson's record will put a lot of potential managers off along with the Glazier's in charge who could blame them.

It is going to be very hard to follow Sir Fergie, (it is always best in these sort of situations, to be the man who follows the man, if you understand what I mean. ) and we will need someone who can handle that immense pressure, and it will be the biggest pressure a new manager has ever had at a club, so I do agree with your sentiments in that regard, but I just see it as a great opportunity, for someone to come in with fresh ideas, and a new way of thinking, that we haven't had for a very long time.
Now will that be as successful as Sir Fergie's way? Probably not, as it is neigh on impossible for it to be that, but there is no reason, why he cannot put his own stamp on things, and as Ronnie says "who knows what the future holds"?

Originally Posted by Tribec

This got me thinking, and I mean thinking. As you say for many, they won't know anything other than SAF, some people in here don't know anyone other than SAF. We'll be lucky for a few years yet, but how long will it be before we lose the generation of United fans that can recall both Sir Matt and Sir Alex steering us to European glory or even attending both? The amount of history that generation saw and went through is scary.

How long before some of you lot in here are telling tales to the grand kids of how it was under Sir Alex, how great the team of 99 was and teaching them the treble winning team, as my uncle taught me the name of the Babes. Yet those days approach and soon we'll be asking who can ever do or try and do what Sir Alex has done, how long before we hear, Sir Alex wouldn't stand for that from him, he'd be sold? With regard a United player?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and actually say managers won't be eager to join United when Sir Alex gives up, we are going to have to pay over the odds for who ever unless we promote from within. Who in there right mind would want to try and replace SAF? I'd even go as far as to say Jose may turn it down as well. It's madness trying to follow the legend.

I do agree we are living through the most special time as United fans, and it will be neigh on impossible to follow such feights, and as we get older and the next generations follow us, they may not have such rich tales to tell, which will be really sad to see.

Jose's ego is quite huge, so I wouldn't rule him out for wanting to take the job if he wants to throw his name into the ring for it.
There very well might be a sort of down time, as we adapt to a new manager, but when it comes to actually looking for that new man, we are still a global company, and any manager who wants to try and manage at a top club, would be eager to try and manage us, as it is a step up from a lot of other clubs, and managers tend to like a challenge (look at the number that take over relegation canidates for a few weeks to try and save them).

Yes, the days of managers having 20+ years at our club will be over when SIr Alex calls it quits, but who knows what the future may be? If I did, I would make a fortune on the lottery!

[batdude_uk1]

Originally Posted by Tribec

1986 was easy, Sack Ron on Nov 5th, Nov 6th appoint Alex Ferguson.

In 1981, we sacked Sexton, after which Robson, McMenamey (sp), Saunders and if I'm right Clough decline to come to us. It's not like we weren't a big club then, but we weren't known for paying good wages and the spectre of Sir Matt still shadowed who ever managed the club.

1981 was a very different era and a very different club, we were not a global powerhouse, like we are now, you ask somone in Columbia or Kenya who Manchester United were back then, and very few people would know much about us, nowadays it is completely different.

I am sure if there was a modern day Clough about, that he would still reject us, as he wasn't the sort of manager who could handle a big club like Leeds at the time, and we are now even bigger than Leeds were then.

The next manager will be a huge decision for the club, and it is not something that our owners (or the previous ones) have had to think about (well execpt for that brief period in 2002), so it will be very interesting to see how they handle it, and they go about speaking to possible future managers.

[BomoLad]

Since when did ManUtd.com publish player earnings?

[skimminstones]

england u19s are playing at preston and rochdale over the next few days. Micheal and Will keane are in there along with sam johnstone and tom thorpe

[skimminstones]

Eden Hazard has stressed that he is still not ready to deliver news on his destination. In an interview with Gazet van Antwerpen, he stated: "I do not know when a decision is made about my future club. Anyway, it will be between Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea. The final choice also depends on how much play I would get and the position where I'm played." The Lille star says his favoured role is the 'No10' just behind a striker and he looks set to fulfil that position for Belgium in the next two friendlies.

Is that not where kagawa plays too?

[homer2012]

Originally Posted by BomoLad

Since when did ManUtd.com publish player earnings?

it was posted over the christmas 2011 period, the article was up then amended not long after. Ask the question of the offical United forums and someone will answer your question in depth.

Rooney didn't hold the club to ransom he was originally offered £160k PW but turned down the offer and complaining United were lacking ambition, When he signed for united not long after the outburst he signed the original contract offered.

Personally i think it was maybe an effort to leave England due to the revelations that came out about him and the call girl.

Like i said ask on the boards and someone will probably have a screen shot.

[batdude_uk1]

Originally Posted by skimminstones

england u19s are playing at preston and rochdale over the next few days. Micheal and Will keane are in there along with sam johnstone and tom thorpe

That is good to see our younger players getting some international recognition, good luck to them I say.

Originally Posted by skimminstones

Is that not where kagawa plays too?

So if we were to sign Hazard, would Rooney play more as a striker then?

[BomoLad]

Originally Posted by skimminstones

Is that not where kagawa plays too?

Well...

Valencia - Carrick - Young
Hazard - Kagawa
Rooney

That would leave all three 'front' men a lot of freedom and fluidity as all three men would be capable of tying each others shoelaces, so to speak.

[BomoLad]

OT...slightly...

Is anyone else always tempted to type Kawaga, or just me?

[Cantona07]

Originally Posted by skimminstones

Is that not where kagawa plays too?

I don't really understand how its all supposed to fit together. We appear to be targeting to play excessively attacking midfield/withdrawn striker, but we also play with wide men and Rooney is not really the traditional striker either.

I don't see the shape we are aiming for but it will be interesting no doubt.

[BomoLad]

Originally Posted by Cantona07

I don't really understand how its all supposed to fit together. We appear to be targeting to play excessively attacking midfield/withdrawn striker, but we also play with wide men and Rooney is not really the traditional striker either.

I don't see the shape we are aiming for but it will be interesting no doubt.

Think back to 2008. Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez (spit) - none of which had a refined role. Defined role I should say. Refined I guess in Tevez case.

Fluidity is the key.