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Old 21-05-2012, 16:36
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Came to "You Don't Know Me" on my exercise playlist this a.m., and thought again what a stroke of genius to have this song playing in S2E6, when Maureen Tacey is singing it as DM is having his heart to heart with Danny Steel outside the community center.

" I never knew The art of making love
Though my heart aches With love for you Afraid and shy
I've let my chance to go by The chance that you might
Love me, too"

etc., etc. Sorry for the schmaltz.
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Old 21-05-2012, 16:53
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Books Doc Martin would not read:

Harry Potter and the Ogre of Cornwall
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Old 21-05-2012, 18:11
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Old 21-05-2012, 18:15
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Twilight: New Moon - first run hardcover ?
What are you like! [snigger]

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Old 21-05-2012, 18:16
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Green Eggs and Ham - original hardcover edition ? I do not like people here or there. I do not like people anywhere!
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Old 21-05-2012, 18:20
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Yay! A little bit of MC to carry us through the summer months.
But only 1 hour ... I was thinking this documentary would be along the lines of the mantas and horses?!
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Old 21-05-2012, 18:22
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Hamlyn All Colour Cookbook 200 Fab Fish Dishes ?

And here's MC at the Chelsea Flower Show today

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Old 21-05-2012, 18:34
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We saw DM reading a very old book from the looks of it, hard-cover, while he was in bed in S5. What type of book do folks think DM would read?
The Joy of Sex
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Old 21-05-2012, 18:34
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I think that's MC's beloved cocker spaniel, Mary on PB's bag.
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Old 21-05-2012, 20:35
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I think that's MC's beloved cocker spaniel, Mary on PB's bag.
I thought so too.
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Old 21-05-2012, 22:52
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We saw DM reading a very old book from the looks of it, hard-cover, while he was in bed in S5. What type of book do folks think DM would read?
Im sure this has just about run its course, but here are a couple of other possibilities:

How to Lose Friends And Alienate People: A Memoir by Toby Young

The Pop-Up Book of Phobias by Gary Greenberg (rare now out of print!)
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Old 22-05-2012, 04:10
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Came to "You Don't Know Me" on my exercise playlist this a.m., and thought again what a stroke of genius to have this song playing in S2E6, when Maureen Tacey is singing it as DM is having his heart to heart with Danny Steel outside the community center.

" I never knew The art of making love
Though my heart aches With love for you Afraid and shy
I've let my chance to go by The chance that you might
Love me, too"

etc., etc. Sorry for the schmaltz.
Someone takes a lot of time to make even the smallest detail on this show important. Lovely.
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Old 22-05-2012, 06:11
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Came to "You Don't Know Me" on my exercise playlist this a.m., and thought again what a stroke of genius to have this song playing in S2E6, when Maureen Tacey is singing it as DM is having his heart to heart with Danny Steel outside the community center.

" I never knew The art of making love
Though my heart aches With love for you Afraid and shy
I've let my chance to go by The chance that you might
Love me, too"

etc., etc. Sorry for the schmaltz.
Well, I'm going to make you feel a lot better for pointing out the significance of the song! I think I've officially crossed the line. Have been rewatching some of S2 and spotted two things that were probably not meant to mean anything. 1) One was Doc giving someone an injection (can't remember who) with Danny present (Danny was now a clear rival) saying "just a little prick" and I thought he glanced at Danny? Second scene was Doc just coming from green grocer and bumping into Louisa. Doc had three fruits/veggies in his hand - two spherical, one cylindrical - positioned in a way to possibly suggest interested genitals. Is there any way this could have an inside joke, or shall I just put myself in a time out? I promise I won't next juxtapose the Mayan calendar, the graphics on a Beatles album, and the Doc's remarks at the Castle!
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Old 22-05-2012, 06:45
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Well, I'm going to make you feel a lot better for pointing out the significance of the song! I think I've officially crossed the line. Have been rewatching some of S2 and spotted two things that were probably not meant to mean anything. 1) One was Doc giving someone an injection (can't remember who) with Danny present (Danny was now a clear rival) saying "just a little prick" and I thought he glanced at Danny? Second scene was Doc just coming from green grocer and bumping into Louisa. Doc had three fruits/veggies in his hand - two spherical, one cylindrical - positioned in a way to possibly suggest interested genitals. Is there any way this could have an inside joke, or shall I just put myself in a time out? I promise I won't next juxtapose the Mayan calendar, the graphics on a Beatles album, and the Doc's remarks at the Castle!
You are spot on. I think I remember catching the prick reference. And as for the vegetables...I was roaring the first time I saw that scene. And I laugh every time I watch it. It HAD to be done on purpose.
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Old 22-05-2012, 07:05
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Well, I'm going to make you feel a lot better for pointing out the significance of the song! I think I've officially crossed the line. Have been rewatching some of S2 and spotted two things that were probably not meant to mean anything. 1) One was Doc giving someone an injection (can't remember who) with Danny present (Danny was now a clear rival) saying "just a little prick" and I thought he glanced at Danny? Second scene was Doc just coming from green grocer and bumping into Louisa. Doc had three fruits/veggies in his hand - two spherical, one cylindrical - positioned in a way to possibly suggest interested genitals. Is there any way this could have an inside joke, or shall I just put myself in a time out? I promise I won't next juxtapose the Mayan calendar, the graphics on a Beatles album, and the Doc's remarks at the Castle!
Pretty sure those were both done on purpose.
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Old 22-05-2012, 11:54
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I think they may be setting us up for the return, at least to a small degree, of the blood phobia. I see hints of it in DM's behavior toward Morwenna when she freaks out at needles. He's completely unsympathetic toward her and says, "Nonsense," when she tells him about it. That he seems oblivious to the fact that a short while ago he too had a crippling fear is a big, fat hint, IMO, that his phobia will return. And, in fact, his problem did already return once, when JH was born. Here he is literally on his way to London to resume his surgical career, when he's diverted by the taxi crash & birth of his son, & he's out in the bushes throwing up again!

So, yes, maybe it will only happen when there's an emotional event involved, or it's the blood of someone he truly cares for. You're right. He did show discomfort when washing AR's finger. At that stage, he did care for AR, but she was no AJ, not someone he loved at that level. So, vomiting when his son was born. Mild discomfort when the "new" aunt's finger was bleeding. No problem when it's anyone else.

DM wasn't at all sympathetic towards JP with his agrophobia either. It took AJ to pull him up.
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Old 22-05-2012, 11:58
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Pretty sure those were both done on purpose.
They've done this a bit throughout the series. MrsT went to pick up an aubergineonce, and put it back on the shelf!!!
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Old 22-05-2012, 12:02
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Not to share too much, but I developed panic attacks 20 years ago; first time on a plane, which is, I can confirm a BAD idea. Panic is a phobic disorder. I completely overcame them with homeopathic medicine and my own desire to retrain my mind. Haven't had one in nearly two decades, so yes, people can completely overcome them.

I have several friends who also had phobic disorders in their life at one time or another from one trigger or another; they are also panic free. And, I've treated patients with the same condition. It can indeed be cured.
The mind is an incredible thing. I am glad to hear you are over them.
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Old 22-05-2012, 12:08
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My main worry about s6 is that MC has said he doesn't want to Pathologise -his word - DM. I took this to mean that he didn't want DM's personality to change. Is this the right interpretation?

I don't see why DM can't grow and change - to a certain extent - and compromise just like the rest of us have to do to successfully live with someone.
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Old 22-05-2012, 13:37
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Old 22-05-2012, 15:45
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You are spot on. I think I remember catching the prick reference. And as for the vegetables...I was roaring the first time I saw that scene. And I laugh every time I watch it. It HAD to be done on purpose.
I think there are a lot of these private jokes, insider references, allusions to movies, etc. etc., dropped in there that we don't know the half of.

Remember the child named "Emily Braithwaite?" and Holly asking DM if he knew her friend "Johnny Bamford"? And I now think those onions that occasionally show up are a shoutout to a cameraman named Roger Onions (if that is indeed his name!). Anyway, good to know they're having fun whilst making this for us.
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Old 22-05-2012, 15:55
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They've done this a bit throughout the series. MrsT went to pick up an aubergineonce, and put it back on the shelf!!!
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Old 22-05-2012, 17:23
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My main worry about s6 is that MC has said he doesn't want to Pathologise -his word - DM. I took this to mean that he didn't want DM's personality to change. Is this the right interpretation?

I don't see why DM can't grow and change - to a certain extent - and compromise just like the rest of us have to do to successfully live with someone.
I think he meant that to give the Doc a pathology would mean to give him a diagnosis which would explain his behavior (like Aspergers for example). If he has a diagnosis, then there would be a cure. So he doesn't want to "cure" him. Aspergers probably isn't a good example but I use it because there has been speculation over the years that he might have that. But a diagnosis of a pathology could lead to a possible cure and that could lead to a change in his personality.

He said the writers are often trying to soften his character and they have to send the scripts back for rewrites. He wants to maintain his grumpiness or whatever you want to call it.
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Old 22-05-2012, 17:39
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I think he meant that to give the Doc a pathology would mean to give him a diagnosis which would explain his behavior (like Aspergers for example). If he has a diagnosis, then there would be a cure. So he doesn't want to "cure" him. Aspergers probably isn't a good example but I use it because there has been speculation over the years that he might have that. But a diagnosis of a pathology could lead to a possible cure and that could lead to a change in his personality.

He said the writers are often trying to soften his character and they have to send the scripts back for rewrites. He wants to maintain his grumpiness or whatever you want to call it.
yes, well, sad to say, and I don't know who I think I am, but I get a little annoyed with the adorable and talented Martin Clunes when he trots out that line. He's willfully created a pathological character, for heaven's sake, with the help of a back story crafted by Minghellas, which is just ripe for dissection and analysis. And if his more "pathological" tendencies are not remediated, if not cured, then I don't really see what hope there is for putting his relationship with LG on a more stable footing-- at least without LG herself becoming a passive-aggressive doormat. So, grumpy all he wants WRT to patients and fellow denizens of PortWenn, but hopefully a tad more sensitive, open and less high-handed with Louisa!
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Old 22-05-2012, 18:12
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yes, well, sad to say, and I don't know who I think I am, but I get a little annoyed with the adorable and talented Martin Clunes when he trots out that line. He's willfully created a pathological character, for heaven's sake, with the help of a back story crafted by Minghellas, which is just ripe for dissection and analysis. And if his more "pathological" tendencies are not remediated, if not cured, then I don't really see what hope there is for putting his relationship with LG on a more stable footing-- at least without LG herself becoming a passive-aggressive doormat. So, grumpy all he wants WRT to patients and fellow denizens of PortWenn, but hopefully a tad more sensitive, open and less high-handed with Louisa!
We had our meetup group on Sunday. One of our members said Martin and Eleanor infantalized Louisa in series 5. She thinks Louisa just wanted to matter to them. She was diappointed in ep 8. She said their (LG + DM) personalities were different in that ep from the rest of series 5. She also expected a final scene with them walking into the surgery after the whole ordeal with Mrs. T. Our member wanted to see them at least start to talk. She also didn't think DM needed special kudos for driving the baby to sleep or helping with things because she said that is what the father is supposed to do in those situations.

I liked her thoughts about making Louisa helpless and taking away her ability to make her own decisions - the painting of the apartment, belittling her work (both E and DM do that), deciding on the name and the Christening, etc. Eleanor tried to tell her how to schedule the school timetable and at the end said "it's like you're a proper teacher" or something.

She didn't like the way Louisa went from a capable smart woman in previous series to someone who couldn't handle things. She didn't understand why she was so disorganized as the head teacher when she had been doing the job before. She said you can't just attribute it to "baby brain" and if she did have post partum problems that the Doc would have seen that because he would have recognized that.
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