[my name is joe]

getting dropped won't be all about sales so far, it'll be a projection by the label...can they go anywhere with this artist anymore or is he/she heading on a permanently downward trajectory?

artists who start off huge can trail off, and artists who start of with modest sales can take off later...usually it doesn't take a genius to work out which way one's going, you can almost smell it

i don't know anything about AB other than that criminal version of Hallelujah, but from somewhere out of the ether i'm getting a whiff of imminent floppery

edit: and anyone who thinks Adele just shouts into a microphone needs to get swiftly down to the ear equivalent of specsavers

[mkirilenkofan]

Originally Posted by Anika Hanson

A bit like the 2.5 million plus sales of echo that are touted about

I didn't say it sold 2.5m.

However, by the end of 2009 it had sold 1.4m.
In the UK, it's sold 650k and in the US over 200k.
It's also been certified Platinum in Europe.
So I do think its justifiable that it has sold over 2m since 2009.


Alex has so much potential but Elephant was awful and I've not heard a lot of the new song. She needs a big dance track like ANL!! Loved that song!!

[Zack06]

Originally Posted by mkirilenkofan

Alex has so much potential but Elephant was awful and I've not heard a lot of the new song. She needs a big dance track like ANL!! Loved that song!!

She's worked with the exact same producers and writers who did All Night Long again for a song called Heartbreak On Hold so I hope we get another track like that...

[little-monster]

Originally Posted by mkirilenkofan

I didn't say it sold 2.5m.

However, by the end of 2009 it had sold 1.4m.
In the UK, it's sold 650k and in the US over 200k.
It's also been certified Platinum in Europe.
So I do think its justifiable that it has sold over 2m since 2009.


Alex has so much potential but Elephant was awful and I've not heard a lot of the new song. She needs a big dance track like ANL!! Loved that song!!

But why dance though? Just because everyone else is doing it. Too boring at the moment.

I will celebrate when the dance/electro trend ends.

[JustArun]

Originally Posted by my name is joe

getting dropped won't be all about sales so far, it'll be a projection by the label...can they go anywhere with this artist anymore or is he/she heading on a permanently downward trajectory?

artists who start off huge can trail off, and artists who start of with modest sales can take off later...usually it doesn't take a genius to work out which way one's going, you can almost smell it

i don't know anything about AB other than that criminal version of Hallelujah, but from somewhere out of the ether i'm getting a whiff of imminent floppery

edit: and anyone who thinks Adele just shouts into a microphone needs to get swiftly down to the ear equivalent of specsavers

And she writes depressing songs about her tragic relationships, abysmal really.

[Zack06]

Originally Posted by little-monster

But why dance though? Just because everyone else is doing it. Too boring at the moment.

It's what Alex loves and it suits her personality best. Yes she is good at ballads, but not everyone should be doing things for the sake of being different.

[Fabala]

Originally Posted by kazozh5

people are saying she's annoying, but your just confusing it with confidence.

for some reason the UK doesn't like confident women. To be honest I don't think any of us have seen enough of her to judge what shes like as a person.
All we can tell is that shes confident

Well it's down to opinion but to a non fan she comes across as arrogant not confident. No matter what you fans think, it's hard to warm to her.

[little-monster]

Is it what Alex loves? Or is she doing it because it's what is in

It's no wonder why the likes of Adele, Lana Del Rey, Emeli Sande etc are really the acclaimed females of the moment because none of them are doing the generic dance stuff.

She did an incredible cover of Whitney's Saving all my love. She could easily be doing be R&B songs like that. Do an album similar to what Whitney did. That is where her talent would shine.

[KieranDS]

Originally Posted by mkirilenkofan

Alex has so much potential but Elephant was awful and I've not heard a lot of the new song. She needs a big dance track like ANL!! Loved that song!!

All Night Long is the best song she's ever released (except the awful Pitbull version). The video is great as well. All the other singles have been crap imo.

[spaceoddity]

Originally Posted by little-monster

But why dance though? Just because everyone else is doing it. Too boring at the moment.

I will celebrate when the dance/electro trend ends.

I agree.

The majority of these 'dance' tracks will sound horribly dated in about 2/3 years.

[Zack06]

Originally Posted by little-monster

Is it what Alex loves? Or is she doing it because it's what is in

It's no wonder why the likes of Adele, Lana Del Rey, Emeli Sande etc are really the acclaimed females of the moment because none of them are doing the generic dance stuff.

She did an incredible cover of Whitney's Saving all my love. She could easily be doing be R&B songs like that. Do an album similar to what Whitney did. That is where her talent would shine.

She said she told Simon that she didn't want Overcome to be full of ballads, and she wanted uptempos. She's a bubbly person who has a real dancing talent, so why have all that wasted for the sake of being different?

I agree she needs to release a few different tracks to vary things, but I don't agree about just having her do one style.

[jackbell]

This is something we all know, but I do think X Factor acts - winners - tend to have a very brief pop career. Shining bright for a while and then going out. Even the mighty Leona doesn't seem immune.

You're often better off not winning - JLS, Olly Murs, Rebecca Ferguson, One Direction.

I liked Alexandra a lot on the show but I'm very distanced by the music she is making now. It seems very generic and empty. I think she needed to do something with more depth, soul and feeling. The Silence I liked very much. She seems to be losing her way by making dance tracks that a lot of other singers are doing.

I also don't think her rather over-confident manner helped when she was invited back on the show as a judge last year. The whole 'Okay.Com!' was a mistake.

[Zack06]

Originally Posted by jackbell

The Silence I liked very much.

Take a listen to Before The Rain, Gotta Go, Perfect, Before It Explodes ft. Bruno Mars, Overcome and They Don't Know if you liked that

[Carly_Thompson]

I have to say, I do think Alexandra's career is in big trouble. I really thought this second album could have cemented her status as a huge UK popstar and possibly even gone on to conquer the US, but at the minute it's an uphill battle just to win back the UK. I don't know where it all went wrong for Alex, leaving Syco did not benefit her at all.

I think a lot of people don't like her personality, I'm not sure why. I was having some drinks the other night in my house with friends and Alexandra was on the TV and pretty much all of them said "I hate her, she's so cocky!". I don't think she is, but once people have a perception of you it's pretty hard to change that. If she started being all shy and reserved people would say she's fake, and if she continues being herself people call her cocky so she really can't win.

I hope she manages to sell a decent amount with her new album and at least get a shot at a third album. She's too talented to be just another female who flopped.

[pikeur]

Im not sure how it will go but if i was a betting man i would be betting the secon album will do nowhere near aswell as the first and will struggle to make platinum.

Based on the material i have heard so far im very disapointed and considering she took her time with the second album the material in very generic and weak, i really expected sronger material from her.

[gpk]

Originally Posted by JustArun

And she writes depressing songs about her tragic relationships, abysmal really.

well that is your view obviously. yet she has sold millions of records worldwide. i know who`s career i would rather have.

[wilpy]

She left it too long between first and second albums, I think. And I agree with those who said there are probably some industry politics going on behind the scenes.

[iseloid]

It was meant to be out last year but something happened. I personally think this isn't the album it was meant to be, and would explain the budget issues. She said it was half done in March 2011 and it's now May 2012, and she said in May 2012 the finishing touches and collaborations were being recorded, and it now turns out there are none. Summat's up as they say. It's sad too, she wrote a lot of songs (as fans we saw her name on various writing credits) and they haven't ended up on the final edit. I do wonder what RCA are up to. Not here for this bombing.

[Martimater]

She is a flop. Nothing else to it im afraid. *sigh*

[Zack06]

Originally Posted by Martimater

She is a flop. Nothing else to it im afraid. *sigh*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ewrlBbW2XZk

Oh yeahhh.....such a flop.

[I IZ Ghetto]

Originally Posted by my name is joe

getting dropped won't be all about sales so far, it'll be a projection by the label...can they go anywhere with this artist anymore or is he/she heading on a permanently downward trajectory?

artists who start off huge can trail off, and artists who start of with modest sales can take off later...usually it doesn't take a genius to work out which way one's going, you can almost smell it

i don't know anything about AB other than that criminal version of Hallelujah, but from somewhere out of the ether i'm getting a whiff of imminent floppery

edit: and anyone who thinks Adele just shouts into a microphone needs to get swiftly down to the ear equivalent of specsavers

Nah I dont think so

[O.Michel]

I agree that Alexandra's talent would shine much more if she stepped her game up and started taking risks. However, both 'Elephant' and 'Let It Go' are great pop songs, much better than some of the tracks that top the chart or stay in the top 10 for weeks. If she wasn't getting sabotaged by radio, both tracks would have taken off and the whole "flop/ superstar" debate wouldn't be necessary, but the industry politics won't allow the album to stand or fall on its own merits. So, even if she did Adele, Emeli Sande type of music, she would still have trouble promoting her material.

[JustArun]

Originally Posted by O.Michel

I agree that Alexandra's talent would shine much more if she stepped her game up and started taking risks. However, both 'Elephant' and 'Let It Go' are great pop songs, much better than some of the tracks that top the chart or stay in the top 10 for weeks. If she wasn't getting sabotaged by radio, both tracks would have taken off and the whole "flop/ superstar" debate wouldn't be necessary, but the industry politics won't allow the album to stand or fall on its own merits. So, even if she did Adele, Emeli Sande type of music, she would still have trouble promoting her material.

Great post.

[big dan]

Originally Posted by Zack06

She said she told Simon that she didn't want Overcome to be full of ballads, and she wanted uptempos. She's a bubbly person who has a real dancing talent, so why have all that wasted for the sake of being different?

I agree she needs to release a few different tracks to vary things, but I don't agree about just having her do one style.

Uptempo doesn't have to equate to generic, forgettable dance-pop that sounds the same as pretty much every single song in that style though.

[I IZ Ghetto]

Bad Boys was upbeat yet unique. Sigh.