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The team unity was there, that’s a fact, I genuinely enjoyed working with both Louise and Jess for this task, and it’s been a pleasure. Also, I cannot seem to see a weakness, but often those have actually done the presentation (making the blog, the twitter account, the Tumblr, etc) cannot identify their own weaknesses. Besides, we would have changed them long ago if we were able to spot any! I do agree with the girls in that the presentation point at the end may have been misinterpreted by the viewers, I hope not though.
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In all honesty, if there wasn't any "team unity" I would express it, like I have in the past. I'm not one to beat around the bush. But this team has been great to work with and everyone was very agreeable. I don't want to sound like something out of Barney but I really have no complaints.
If I had to choose a weakness, it would be in the way we decided to present it. But I felt this followed what you first expressed in the brief. Just post the links and an explanation. Maybe it was too short though. Quote:
No pretending, just three people who worked extremely well with each other!
![]() Perhaps (from viewer feedback favouring Reflections), we could've put our explanatory post into a more detailed form- which in reality wasn't what the task was about! I really think we have a strong, sustainable concept, and the whole team have expressed interest in continuing with the blog when DSA is over! As it happens, the content of the posts in the team threads isn't being taken into consideration in this task.
Reflections, same questions to you - do you think there were weaknesses in what you produced, or is there anything you'd change? |
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As it happens, the content of the posts in the team threads isn't being taken into consideration in this task. Reflections, same questions to you - do you think there were weaknesses in what you produced, or is there anything you'd change? |
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As it happens, the content of the posts in the team threads isn't being taken into consideration in this task. Reflections, same questions to you - do you think there were weaknesses in what you produced, or is there anything you'd change? |
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Does that mean the stuff about sustainability won't be viewed? Like, it was more of a justification because we do realise that not many people may know that Eurovision news occurs like, all year round, not just the lead-up to May. I didn't think it warranted it's own post in our blog, though.
![]() And, I think our weakness would be the fact that the other team snooped on our twitters to find our blog & had everything to do with our blog by mid Saturday afternoon - meaning they knew everything we were doing and had the element of surprise on us, meaning that they would've known ways to outperform us. But, i'm really happy with the blog, tumblr, twitter and the content of it all. I've literally spent all weekend writing for this task, or doing other stuff linked to the task.
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I'm really happy with what we came up with, and I'm not really sure there's a lot I would have done differently! I think you can tell from our blogs that we really enjoyed writing about Eurovision, and hopefully that's infectious and would keep people coming back! In an ideal world, we'd spread the time out between blog posts a little bit more because sometimes it felt like we were spamming people on twitter, but otherwise I think we did a good job.
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Does that mean the stuff about sustainability won't be viewed? Like, it was more of a justification because we do realise that not many people may know that Eurovision news occurs like, all year round, not just the lead-up to May. I didn't think it warranted it's own post in our blog, though.
![]() And, I think our weakness would be the fact that the other team snooped on our twitters to find our blog & had everything to do with our blog by mid Saturday afternoon - meaning they knew everything we were doing and had the element of surprise on us, meaning that they would've known ways to outperform us. But, i'm really happy with the blog, tumblr, twitter and the content of it all. I've literally spent all weekend writing for this task, or doing other stuff linked to the task. ![]() Actually, not to mention, there was nothing to say it was against the rules, what I did was completely innocent (I can’t believe I’ve just had to say that) and therefore unjustifiable as a reason for our team to lose because of it. Finally, there is almost zero similarities between our two presentations – the Tumblr being the only similarity other than the necessities, but having a Tumblr was suggested on our team from the get-go. Also, it’s not as-if I managed to steal followers or anything of that sort, I genuinely cannot see a problem with stumbling across the other team’s twitter and blog. |
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Does that mean the stuff about sustainability won't be viewed? Like, it was more of a justification because we do realise that not many people may know that Eurovision news occurs like, all year round, not just the lead-up to May. I didn't think it warranted it's own post in our blog, though.
![]() And, I think our weakness would be the fact that the other team snooped on our twitters to find our blog & had everything to do with our blog by mid Saturday afternoon - meaning they knew everything we were doing and had the element of surprise on us, meaning that they would've known ways to outperform us. But, i'm really happy with the blog, tumblr, twitter and the content of it all. I've literally spent all weekend writing for this task, or doing other stuff linked to the task. ![]() As a side note, I didn't do any such thing. |
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Does that mean the stuff about sustainability won't be viewed? Like, it was more of a justification because we do realise that not many people may know that Eurovision news occurs like, all year round, not just the lead-up to May. I didn't think it warranted it's own post in our blog, though.
![]() And, I think our weakness would be the fact that the other team snooped on our twitters to find our blog & had everything to do with our blog by mid Saturday afternoon - meaning they knew everything we were doing and had the element of surprise on us, meaning that they would've known ways to outperform us. But, i'm really happy with the blog, tumblr, twitter and the content of it all. I've literally spent all weekend writing for this task, or doing other stuff linked to the task. ![]()
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Your weakness was our team?
As a side note, I didn't do any such thing. I said that a weakness could've been our levels of privacy because you all knew our blog & everything we were doing before Saturday evening. Please don't try and read between the lines when theres no message there. |
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Does that mean the stuff about sustainability won't be viewed? Like, it was more of a justification because we do realise that not many people may know that Eurovision news occurs like, all year round, not just the lead-up to May. I didn't think it warranted it's own post in our blog, though.
![]() And, I think our weakness would be the fact that the other team snooped on our twitters to find our blog & had everything to do with our blog by mid Saturday afternoon - meaning they knew everything we were doing and had the element of surprise on us, meaning that they would've known ways to outperform us. But, i'm really happy with the blog, tumblr, twitter and the content of it all. I've literally spent all weekend writing for this task, or doing other stuff linked to the task. ![]() We decided before this task started that the result would be solely based on the blog/Twitter/etc., since we wanted them to stand on their own rather than being supported by in-thread justifications.
And that's interesting to hear about the alleged 'snooping' - may I ask how you heard about that? And did Team Reflections see anything that Team Viveza produced pre-deadline? |
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Actually, not to mention, there was nothing to say it was against the rules, what I did was completely innocent (I can’t believe I’ve just had to say that) and therefore unjustifiable as a reason for our team to lose because of it. Finally, there is almost zero similarities between our two presentations – the Tumblr being the only similarity other than the necessities, but having a Tumblr was suggested on our team from the get-go. Also, it’s not as-if I managed to steal followers or anything of that sort, I genuinely cannot see a problem with stumbling across the other team’s twitter and blog.
Seriously. |
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I didn't say that, did I?
I said that a weakness could've been our levels of privacy because you all knew our blog & everything we were doing before Saturday evening. Please don't try and read between the lines when theres no message there. And us finding your blog is hardly a weakness. Our preperation of our blog has absolutely nothing to do with yours. We came up with the concept on Friday night and I created the blog & Twitter on that same night. I just don't see how it's a weakness. |
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We decided before this task started that the result would be solely based on the blog/Twitter/etc., since we wanted them to stand on their own rather than being supported by in-thread justifications. And that's interesting to hear about the alleged 'snooping' - may I ask how you heard about that? And did Team Reflections see anything that Team Viveza produced pre-deadline? We (well I) thought about looking at the other teams personal twitter accounts to see if they had made the same 'mistake' as us, but we didn't see the need because although it could be seen as an advantage we didn't want to get distracted by it - because it's pretty silly to do more than what we had already done (like, almost 50 blog posts + everything on the other sites) based on what they had done. I found about it because Zak saw it on my twitter and decided to screenshot the twitter so they could see our blog etc. |
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I just think that as a team you should be able to look at your project objectively and come with something that you did that could be viewed as a weakness.
And us finding your blog is hardly a weakness. Our preperation of our blog has absolutely nothing to do with yours. We came up with the concept on Friday night and I created the blog & Twitter on that same night. I just don't see how it's a weakness. |
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Cut the crap, Zak. I'm not LAS and I don't have an opinion on who wins or not. I didn't say ANYTHING about you or your team losing for that reason so why do you (and the rest of your team) seem to find the need to insinuate things?
Seriously. |
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Sorry, Louise, I forgot I had to answer the question to your standards.
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We decided before this task started that the result would be solely based on the blog/Twitter/etc., since we wanted them to stand on their own rather than being supported by in-thread justifications. And that's interesting to hear about the alleged 'snooping' - may I ask how you heard about that? And did Team Reflections see anything that Team Viveza produced pre-deadline? |
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I think Zak found our blog after I followed both Carlisle and myself with it on twitter - probably with really innocent intentions, however, once he had told Carlisle that we knew about it, despite him not having bad intentions, it was kind of unsettling for a while. Obviously, you naturally worry about what your competition is doing, and when you know they can see what you're upto, while you can't see what they're doing it adds to the stress, purely because of the unknown. Ultimately though, objectively speaking, I can't see what advantage they could have got from it, other than a psychological one, which they didnt really play up to, as stressful as I found not knowing while they knew what we were doing!
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I have no intention of arguing with you, hence why I didn't direct the post to you. I even pointed out an error on your blog (the maths error, and I quote "I can't believe you noticed that"), so if anything, you should be thankful I stumbled across your blog. Besides, if I wanted to use it to our advantage (even though there wasn't an advantage since you could see ours if you chose to do so), I wouldn't have told you about it. The idea that you knew about it as soon as I came across it has surprised me why it is worth mentioning in the boardroom actually.
And you definitely did address it to me? You quoted MY post and wrote the justification for your actions - whether they were bad to do or not. I made no assumption - I simply stated that had we do it again we would've made sure that the other team were unaware of our blog because it IS an advantage being able to see the other teams work. |
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I think Zak found our blog after I followed both Carlisle and myself with it on twitter - probably with really innocent intentions, however, once he had told Carlisle that we knew about it, despite him not having bad intentions, it was kind of unsettling for a while. Obviously, you naturally worry about what your competition is doing, and when you know they can see what you're upto, while you can't see what they're doing it adds to the stress, purely because of the unknown. Ultimately though, objectively speaking, I can't see what advantage they could have got from it, other than a psychological one, which they didnt really play up to, as stressful as I found not knowing while they knew what we were doing!
But, as members of Team Viveza have mentioned, you could have seen what they were doing at any time?
Viveza, do you think you benefited from seeing Reflections' work? |
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Yeah, you were looking at our page SO much that you noticed a typo of one of our blog titles where we missed out a number - something that I had already mentioned to Gav beforehand and was planning on editing it when we finished the final country profile - hence why, at the same time, there were two pages which had the same country number.
And you definitely did address it to me? You quoted MY post and wrote the justification for your actions - whether they were bad to do or not. I made no assumption - I simply stated that had we do it again we would've made sure that the other team were unaware of our blog because it IS an advantage being able to see the other teams work. Quote:
But, as members of Team Viveza have mentioned, you could have seen what they were doing at any time? Viveza, do you think you benefited from seeing Reflections' work? |
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We didn't benefit at all! I even told David that I liked their idea- which I do! The only 'advantage' we had was knowing what the competition was, but the standard of our blog posts was because we wanted to beat the opposition like any other task - not because we felt challenged by their submission or had to improve our work to be on par with it.
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But, as members of Team Viveza have mentioned, you could have seen what they were doing at any time? Viveza, do you think you benefited from seeing Reflections' work? |
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But, as members of Team Viveza have mentioned, you could have seen what they were doing at any time? Viveza, do you think you benefited from seeing Reflections' work? |
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