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The Digital Spy Apprentice - Series 2 - Task Seven Boardroom |
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In my opinion, the other team seeing our blog didnt concern me fully. They had access to our blog and they used it. I didnt want to stoop to spying on the opposition and what they were doing so just ignored it, but it may have given them the advantage of knowing everything we were doing which would benefit them.
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In my opinion, the other team seeing our blog didnt concern me fully. They had access to our blog and they used it. I didnt want to stoop to spying on the opposition and what they were doing so just ignored it, but it may have given them the advantage of knowing everything we were doing which would benefit them.
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No, I looked to see how many blog posts you had, they were uneven, it was irritating. Also, it could well be interpreted as an advantage for your own team - surely it made you work harder?
If anything, it would have made them work harder due to the psychological effects. I cannot find a reason as of how we would have benefited from it. |
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We didn't use it all all, Naruto to be fair. We just knew what your concept was. It's no big deal.
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We didn't use it all all, Naruto, to be fair. We just knew what your concept was. It's no big deal.
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All right, I think that's enough sniping between the teams. I'm going to move on to discuss the pros and the cons of each team's final 'products'.
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We didn't use it all all, Naruto, to be fair. We just knew what your concept was. It's no big deal.
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I would say Viveza are 'justifying our actions' because Team Reflections (especially all of these posts about us having an advantage) keep on appearing, when as we have stated, we had no advantage apart from being aware of the opposition.
I did give David a hint (if I remember correctly) saying our blog was music based. So they as well had a slight insight to the type of thing we was building upon. I think what everyone is forgetting here is that social networking is for everyone to see, and in this event, we saw it and acted upon it. It's a tiny little thing, which I doubt has affected the overall contribution of either Viveza or Reflections' work. |
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Reflections, we were impressed by your level of activity throughout the task: you kept up a constant stream of tweets and you engaged really well with other Eurovision fans on Tumblr, which was great. We did think that the concept suffered from a lack of longevity - whilst I know you've tried to address this, I have to wonder how many Eurovision fans are so dedicated that they'd visit a Eurovision blog throughout the year. Your blog also seemed to be aimed a bit too much at UK fans, which we thought was an unnecessarily narrow audience - most Eurovision fans don't live anywhere near the UK!
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Viveza, we thought the concept of your blog had great longevity, and we were very impressed by the level of interest you got on Twitter - a lot of people seemed to be paying attention, including some of the musicians you wrote about. We did think your Tumblr was significantly weaker than Reflections', as it solely consisted of self-promotion rather than engaging with other fans. We were also disappointed with how long it took you to start posting - this is the sort of task you should have jumped into headfirst, but you seemed to spend way too long researching your concept.
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Taking everything into consideration (and noting that this was easily the closest task so far - both teams created very strong products), the winning team is...
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...Team Viveza!
Well done, Team Viveza - despite the weak Tumblr, we thought your blog concept was great and could work very well in the long term. We'll see you all in the next round! Team Reflections, commiserations on a very close loss, but this isn't over for you. |
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Well done, Team Viveza.
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Well done Viveza!
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Actually just died, thank god for that. Commiserations Reflections, but WELL DONE VIVEZA.
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Thank you and good luck Reflections
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Commiserations Reflections
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Well done, Team Viveza!
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So: Gav, Carlisle, and Naruto, where do you think the fault lies?
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Okay - i'm probably gonna get fired for being defiant or something, but.
I disagree with the decision. Whilst I fully agree that the other team had a great product & I actually enjoyed reading through the 8 or so posts that I did. Your only crticism of us was: "I have to wonder how many Eurovision fans are so dedicated that they'd visit a Eurovision blog throughout the year. Your blog also seemed to be aimed a bit too much at UK fans, which we thought was an unnecessarily narrow audience - most Eurovision fans don't live anywhere near the UK!" Both of these have been countered by the fact that: a) The many eurovision forums (including the one on DS) that are active on Eurovision discussion all year round - along with the LARGE amount of news that is in regards to Eurovision that is published with a lot of interest throughout the course of the year. b) The fact people from Bosnia, Croatia, Peru & China have followed us on twitter, as well as a large amount of from other countries tweeted us back suggests that we aren't JUST targetting the UK market. But, oh well. |
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So: Gav, Carlisle, and Naruto, where do you think the fault lies? In terms of where blame lies, I don't really know where I would point it, except maybe at Naruto, as he did a lot less than me or Carlisle. |
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So: Gav, Carlisle, and Naruto, where do you think the fault lies? |
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I don't think the fault lies in our product. Team Viveza had a really excellent blog, but I don't necessarily think ours was any weaker - in fact ours had a very specific market we were trying to appeal towards - a scarily dedicated core group of fans who would visit blogs 'out of season' in the same way people visit the X Factor forums out of season. There's always something going on in the world of Eurovision, and I think our blog would have reflected that.
In terms of where blame lies, I don't really know where I would point it, except maybe at Naruto, as he did a lot less than me or Carlisle. |
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Okay - i'm probably gonna get fired for being defiant or something, but.
I disagree with the decision. Whilst I fully agree that the other team had a great product & I actually enjoyed reading through the 8 or so posts that I did. Your only crticism of us was: "I have to wonder how many Eurovision fans are so dedicated that they'd visit a Eurovision blog throughout the year. Your blog also seemed to be aimed a bit too much at UK fans, which we thought was an unnecessarily narrow audience - most Eurovision fans don't live anywhere near the UK!" Both of these have been countered by the fact that: a) The many eurovision forums (including the one on DS) that is active on Eurovision discussion all year round b) The fact people from Bosnia, Croatia, Peru & China have followed us on twitter, as well as a large amount of from other countries tweeted us back suggests that we aren't JUST targetting the UK market. But, oh well. Firstly, I'd say that there's a big difference between a forum and a blog: people build friendships and interact with each other on forums, but a blog is more of a creator -> reader medium, where the reader is purely a consumer rather than a creator. To put it more simply, people are more likely to return to a forum year-round because they can engage and discuss the topic with other fans (who may also be their friends), whilst there's less incentive to return to a blog where they don't have any say in the content.
Secondly, whilst I'm impressed that your Twitter managed to gain attention from such a diverse range of countries, there were several indications in your blog posts (particularly the final few) that your blog was aimed at UK readers. Constant references to the UK and Graham Norton might easily alienate non-UK readers. |
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I think thats unfair and untrue. I did the tumblr blog which i did by myself as i did the live journal. I did the scoring as did everyone else and also my original blog post.
But like I said, I don't think that really impacted on why we lost, anyway, as the problem was more to do with the concept, which I still stand by. |
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