You have got to be kidding, right
Your saying she was a worthwhile housemate because she made everyone a cup of tea.
As for George,an even bigger waste of space as a housemate...he wasint missed by viewers when he walked.

I liked Susie when she got locked in the diaryroom by the automated BB, that was funny and though i cant forgive her for nominating Nikki the first chance she got, that did lead to one of the most famous and oft repeated moments of BB for Nikki - "Who is She!?!?"

When did i say she was worth her place just because she made hm's tea in bed It would be rediculous to say a hm was worth their place for something like that!
I was just pointing out that she worked hard around the house and did things younger the hm's wouldn't have bothered to do.

As for George.
You're right in saying he wasn't missed by the viewers and i was one who didn't miss him in the slightest at that time.
However, i clearly said that looking back at early BB7 recently on youtube [something which i haven't done at length since bb7 ended] i have changed my mind about him.
Not a great hm by any means, but he was different from the hm i thought i was watching at the time. He did get involved in group convo's, did seem happy and content, was liked by his felloe hm's, and was enjoying being in there in his own quiet way.

It's the same with Dawn as well.
At the time i thought she was a miserable, sour/hard faced bore who should never have been selected for a series like BB7, especially after that terribly negative audition tape.
Again, looking back at early BB7 i now take the time to look more at her and see what she was like rather than the usual suspects who caught the eye.
i now see that she seemed like a genuinely nice, caring, warm, sensetive woman, who got upset at seeing people argue which was something i completely missed at the time.
Nikki adored her and to my great surprise she was Glyn's fav hm, which was another thing i never knew.
Of course, things went pear shaped and rather odd later on, but that doesn't take away from what she was like early on.

I watched tons of BB7, but obviously i didn't watch it 24/7, so this shows how much you can miss even by watching a lot and reading and posting on here.

I think it was a fair assumtion thats what you were saying because of the way it was worded.
She also did more than her fair share of work around the house and made sure everyone had a cup of tea in bed in the morning, so in no way could she be classed as a waste of space.

Nothing else I saw in that post specifically indicated why you thought she was not a waste of space.
Sorry if I read that wrong.

I think the points your making about George and Dawn could then be applied to absolutely any HM that may have been considered a waste or dull/unimportant to the show.
Its amazing what you can read into a series on its second or third viewing,you can actually justify a seemingly piece of useless furniture in the house if you start to over analyse or try to look at the reasons why things,or people were in the house.
I am sticking to my belief on this that Susie was dull boring a wasted opportunity,in the wrong series and George was even more pointless.

The main thing I remember Susie for is being nonplussed by her reaction to Glyn being very ill after drinking, if I remember right she was so disgusted and said something like - she had never seen an adult vomit before which I found very strange.

If Golden Ticketgate wasn't a fix then how unlucky were Endemol/Channel 4 to get the only golden ticket holder who had been a standby for previous series. Some of the golden ticket holders would've been much better than Snoozy Suzie.

I likes suzie , she was a great character , very calm and reserved but with a dry wit , a great antidote to some of the nutcases in there

I quite liked Suzie, although she wasn't perfect by any means. I thought she did great with both the water throwing incident with the awful Grace, and in Davina's obnoxious interview. Suzie wasn't perfect, but she kept her cool when faced with rude and annoying people and that house wouldn't have eaten nearly as well if she were not in it.

Grace wasn't especially nasty by BB standards, and indeed most of the time she was a positive and constructive housemate.


I mostly agree with that, excelt that you seem to see the water-throwing as so horrendous as to need such an explanation. It wasn't even the worst water-throwing we've seen in BB, and Richard called it "liberating" when he was re-enacting it with Jenny. (No one re-enacts really nasty BB behaviour in that way.)


I don't think Susie would be good a neighbour, a colleague, or running a B & B either. Indeed, I largely agree with what Jenni TH said against her (which can probably still be searched out if anyone's interested).

Good, since those opinions are entirely correct. My only (and slight) disagreement would be if you're suggesting Susie might have been good in some other series.

Susie was let off very lightly in her eviction interview because Davina wasn't prepared for a HM to blandly state that she went in only for exposure and to act like she shouldn't have been expected to do anything once there.

I can only ever remember Susie’s wonky boobs. At the time I could never understand why they were so awful when she was married to a millionaire so hope by now she has had them repaired.

Susie was tinted green and given digital devil horns at the end of a video montage during that interview. This was letting her off lightly?

Edit - now that I've typed this out, I agree with you. Immolation would have been the better choice because Grace.

Probably. But they seemed to misjudge how the golden ticket would work, claiming that a 'random member of the public' would get a chance. They seemed to miss the probability that tickets would be bought by people desperate for tv exposure.

I thought a few golden ticket holders were serial auditioners and the chances of it being Susie that got selected were'nt that large.

I didn't mind her,the fact that she led to Grace's downfall pleased me immensly.

I like her. I say 'like' because I'm currently watching BB7 for the first time on Youtube.

After BB9 some Rachel supporters posted her 'best clips' for me and others to take a look at and see if any of us had a change of mind about her being mind rottingly bland and boring. I took the time to view the clips and all they did was reaffirm my opinions about her. The same would be the case for the likes of Josie and dozens of others i could mention.
So i don't agree that opinions of any hm would be changed on 2nd or 3rd viewing.

I changed my mind about Dawn because at the time i did not notice how nice, caring and sensitive she was. I did not know that Glyn liked her more than Imogen.
I think Dawn's dreadful audition tape did her damage and gave a very false impression of how she really was.

George was different altogether.
For me, it was his extreme contrast to the others that i now found interesting to watch.
Put him in a house of dullards then no way would i have any interest whatsoever in watching him.

By the time of BB7, wasn't every hm a wannabe?
Not that i'm one of those who has anything against wannabe's being in BB.

Ah it's always interesting hearing fresh opinions from a first-timer.

Fact is that more important and memorable stuff happened around, her than many who've gone onto to win BB since her time in the house.
If she's one of the worst hm's of alltime in one of the worst series of alltime, then it says a lot about what followed.

Susie was an uber-desperate bint with a promising sideline in boring the pants off viewers. After all the hype of the golden ticket, and she was what we ended up with; a desperado in a manky negligee.
BB7, after a good start, descended into pure farce, culminating with a certain evicted HM being eligible to win.

THIS^.

I quite liked her. From what I remember, I liked the way she seemed totally unphased by everything- particularly times when Spiral or Mikey would be shouting in her face and she wasn't fussed at all.

She also seemed quite interesting in the sense that she portrayed herself as this classy, prim, reserved woman when in actual fact she was a stripper, nude model and desperate for fame.

Overall, she just struck me as a "unique" sort of housemate- the sort Endemol would never normally choose.

I don't remember Spiral ever saying a bad word about Susie, nevermind ranting in hef face. Mikey did though, and it was nasty and totally uncalled for. Let himself down bigtime that night!

"Important and memorable stuff" happened around the furniture too. Indeed, the HND sofa's contribution alone exceeds Susie's, though it that case it was happening more inside.

To the extent that Susie caused anything, it was through her negative qualities (such as her irritating blandness) or was set up by BB. She may as well have been furniture, just so long as there was an "I nominate Grace and Nikki" sign on her that could be uncovered in the DR.


Yeah, it says they didn't make the mistake of having someone like her again.

Though of course they hadn't made that mistake in the first place (unless certain conspiracy theories are true): the producers never picked her as a housemate, and they were right not to.