Originally Posted by flagpole:
“that is simply not what happened.”
“that is simply not what happened.”
what in the post of mine you quoted didn't happen?
Siri worrying developments
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Originally Posted by swordman:
“Doesn't make anything the default, right, wrong or anything but again though not the issue surely!! That is how the results were obtained but then changed... and for what other reason would they be changed if not acceptable?...
Probably just me that finds this a worrying development you all seem happy to accept results predefined by what apple thinks acceptable hey-ho”
“Doesn't make anything the default, right, wrong or anything but again though not the issue surely!! That is how the results were obtained but then changed... and for what other reason would they be changed if not acceptable?...
Probably just me that finds this a worrying development you all seem happy to accept results predefined by what apple thinks acceptable hey-ho”
the only people that will see this answer are iPhone 4S users, so in reality it really is a non-story.
if you don't have an iPhone 4S then there is nothing to worry about.
also, anyone that does use SIRI to gather facts really needs to worry about other stuff in their life!
Originally Posted by Roush:
“The way I see it is that the answer has been excluded because it isn't reliable, not altered because it isn't acceptable.
If there was evidence that answers were being deliberately altered or manipulated then I think that would be troubling, but, IMO, there's no evidence of malicious intent.”
“The way I see it is that the answer has been excluded because it isn't reliable, not altered because it isn't acceptable.
If there was evidence that answers were being deliberately altered or manipulated then I think that would be troubling, but, IMO, there's no evidence of malicious intent.”
Oh dear.....
Originally Posted by chenks:
“the only people that will see this answer are iPhone 4S users, so in reality it really is a non-story.
if you don't have an iPhone 4S then there is nothing to worry about.
also, anyone that does use SIRI to gather facts really needs to worry about other stuff in their life!”
“the only people that will see this answer are iPhone 4S users, so in reality it really is a non-story.
if you don't have an iPhone 4S then there is nothing to worry about.
also, anyone that does use SIRI to gather facts really needs to worry about other stuff in their life!”
Why are you saying all iphone users have the same blase attitude as you to internet freedoms then?
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Oh dear.....”
“Oh dear.....”
Oh dear what?
Today, Wolfram Alpha is listing the HTC Trophy as the 'best' smartphone. Are you seriously going to argue that answer is reliable?
Originally Posted by swordman:
“Why are you saying all iphone users have the same blase attitude as you to internet freedoms then?”
“Why are you saying all iphone users have the same blase attitude as you to internet freedoms then?”
every search engine is skewed and results are altered to suit. if you don't believe that then you need to open your eyes.
Originally Posted by Roush:
“The way I see it is that the answer has been excluded because it isn't reliable, not altered because it isn't acceptable.
If there was evidence that answers were being deliberately altered or manipulated then I think that would be troubling, but, IMO, there's no evidence of malicious intent.”
“The way I see it is that the answer has been excluded because it isn't reliable, not altered because it isn't acceptable.
If there was evidence that answers were being deliberately altered or manipulated then I think that would be troubling, but, IMO, there's no evidence of malicious intent.”
Or perhaps you chose not to want to see it perhaps.
Originally Posted by chenks:
“every search engine is skewed and results are altered to suit. if you don't believe that then you need to open your eyes.”
“every search engine is skewed and results are altered to suit. if you don't believe that then you need to open your eyes.”
AGAIN we are not talking about the results gained from a search engine are we though
Originally Posted by swordman:
“Or perhaps you chose not to want to see it perhaps.”
“Or perhaps you chose not to want to see it perhaps.”
As I just pointed out above, Wolfram Alpha are listing the HTC Trophy as the 'best' smartphone today, once again based on Best Buy user reviews.
Do you really consider a very small number of Best Buy user reviews to be a reliable source for answers?
Originally Posted by Roush:
“Oh dear what?
Today, Wolfram Alpha is listing the HTC Trophy as the 'best' smartphone. Are you seriously going to argue that answer is reliable?”
“Oh dear what?
Today, Wolfram Alpha is listing the HTC Trophy as the 'best' smartphone. Are you seriously going to argue that answer is reliable?”
I refer you to the above post
Originally Posted by swordman:
“AGAIN we are not talking about the results gained from a search engine are we though”
“AGAIN we are not talking about the results gained from a search engine are we though”
SIRI is technically just a search engine, albeit it uses several sources for results.
bottom line is, if you don't have access to SIRI then you have nothing to worry about.
Originally Posted by swordman:
“I refer you to the above post”
“I refer you to the above post”
just to be clear, would you rather SIRI gave inaccurate results based on Wolfram Alpha and best buy, or give no answer at all?
Originally Posted by chenks:
“SIRI is technically just a search engine, albeit it uses several sources for results.
bottom line is, if you don't have access to SIRI then you have nothing to worry about.”
“SIRI is technically just a search engine, albeit it uses several sources for results.
bottom line is, if you don't have access to SIRI then you have nothing to worry about.”
Yes but AGAIN the results gained from this search engine have been changed by a company not liking the result.
I honestly and truely find peoples attitude towards this very disturbing.
Originally Posted by chenks:
“just to be clear, would you rather SIRI gave inaccurate results based on Wolfram Alpha and best buy, or give no answer at all?”
“just to be clear, would you rather SIRI gave inaccurate results based on Wolfram Alpha and best buy, or give no answer at all?”
I honestly could care less and anyone who takes siri results as gospel is a fool ... however and I keep saying this the results gained from this engine are not the issue ... the fact they have been manipulated to serve a compant agenda is.
Originally Posted by swordman:
“Yes but AGAIN the results gained from this search engine have been changed by a company not liking the result.
I honestly and truely find peoples attitude towards this very disturbing.”
“Yes but AGAIN the results gained from this search engine have been changed by a company not liking the result.
I honestly and truely find peoples attitude towards this very disturbing.”
Google do the same. Are you as equally worried about that? Or is this a personal Apple gripe you have?
You don't have an iPhone 4S or have access to SIRI, calm down, stop worrying and move on with your life.
Originally Posted by swordman:
“I honestly could care less and anyone who takes siri results as gospel is a fool ... however and I keep saying this the results gained from this engine are not the issue ... the fact they have been manipulated to serve a compant agenda is.”
“I honestly could care less and anyone who takes siri results as gospel is a fool ... however and I keep saying this the results gained from this engine are not the issue ... the fact they have been manipulated to serve a compant agenda is.”
that is conjecture though. you have no hard evidence to prove that. see above post above moving on with your life.
Originally Posted by chenks:
“Google do the same. Are you as equally worried about that? Or is this a personal Apple gripe you have?
You don't have an iPhone 4S or have access to SIRI, calm down, stop worrying and move on with your life.”
“Google do the same. Are you as equally worried about that? Or is this a personal Apple gripe you have?
You don't have an iPhone 4S or have access to SIRI, calm down, stop worrying and move on with your life.”
Google what has that to do with it
You obviously have no idea what the issue is do you totally beyond you ... just siri away.
Originally Posted by swordman:
“Google what has that to do with it
You obviously have no idea what the issue is do you totally beyond you ... just siri away.”
“Google what has that to do with it
You obviously have no idea what the issue is do you totally beyond you ... just siri away.”
you've just confirmed my thoughts about your agenda.
i never use SIRI btw.
as i said, calm down, stop worrying, and life your life worry free.
Originally Posted by chenks:
“you've just confirmed my thoughts about your agenda.
i never use SIRI btw.
as i said, calm down, stop worrying, and life your life worry free.”
“you've just confirmed my thoughts about your agenda.
i never use SIRI btw.
as i said, calm down, stop worrying, and life your life worry free.”
I would if I was a dozy as you when it comes to these issues, never mind the mindless clan grows by another.
Originally Posted by swordman:
“I would if I was a dozy as you when it comes to these issues, never mind the mindless clan grows by another.”
“I would if I was a dozy as you when it comes to these issues, never mind the mindless clan grows by another.”
oooh... resorting to personal insults now. a classic sign of someone losing the debate.
Originally Posted by chenks:
“oooh... resorting to personal insults now. a classic sign of someone losing the debate.”
“oooh... resorting to personal insults now. a classic sign of someone losing the debate.”
You can only lose a debate if there are two points of view with merit unfortunately you seem incapable of making one.
I am sure being referred to as dozy with regard to this issue is not the worst insult you have ever received is it? I would be truly amazed if that were the case
Originally Posted by swordman:
“I am sure being referred to as dozy with regard to this issue is not the worst insult you have ever received is it? I would be truly amazed if that were the case”
“I am sure being referred to as dozy with regard to this issue is not the worst insult you have ever received is it? I would be truly amazed if that were the case
”
you also suggested i was mindless.
i really wonder if you would be so brave with your insults if you were standing in front of me.
Originally Posted by swordman:
“You can only lose a debate if there are two points of view with merit unfortunately you seem incapable of making one.”
“You can only lose a debate if there are two points of view with merit unfortunately you seem incapable of making one.”
once you come up with your point of merit, i'm sure you'll get one back.
Originally Posted by chenks:
“you also suggested i was mindless.
i really wonder if you would be so brave with your insults if you were standing in front of me.”
“you also suggested i was mindless.
i really wonder if you would be so brave with your insults if you were standing in front of me.”
Suggested?
Why you can only be about 14 surely and just received your first iphone
Originally Posted by swordman:
“Google what has that to do with it :confused”
“Google what has that to do with it :confused”
Because google do the same thing.
If your search term yields results which include any google services or google websites, then quite often google will then go and put those results at the top. In your words, changing the results given by the search because they are not happy with them.
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