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Old 23-01-2013, 22:56
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Indeed we do it does scream sex but at the same time it could be about ambition, guy and girls with ambition but that is wishful thinking on my part
Well if it was RIhanna we would all know what it would mean ha! Love her and all but yeh...but when it comes to gaga i dont think its ever single meaning, unless she is to appeal to the masses, in which case good luck with radio airplay
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Old 23-01-2013, 23:00
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Madeon is confirmed. He worked with her on the Euro leg, now he's working with her on the NA leg alongside Zedd, DJWS and whoever else. There are still unknown producers.

RedOne is up the air, and we haven't heard anything from Fernando since 2011. His early stuff may have been cut.

As for when the album is coming, we kinda knew the album wasn't finished yet and had work to be done...so Zedd's words aren't a big deal. He may have said his tracks needed work, but he also implied that they'd be done soon and were 99% there.

I don't feel anything has changed in terms of timeframe. We'll be in the ARTPOP era in late spring (Apr/May), it's just a question of when the second single/album will come.
Oh i hope he isnt cut! he is so inspired and i like his sounds that he has had on the BTW album and Dance In The Dark...would love to hear the next stage...White Shadow gets the more intense side of things...his personality is vile but i like sonically what he did too....Madeon i am glad is involved for definite too will be interesting what the combination of DJs means for Artpop....we will see and hear.

And yes i think an announcement will happen in March as she starts to round up the tour, and then of course whatever has been filmed is all set for first single and/or needs to be filmed for Spring release...then a gap, then follow up early summer with second single/video and then key into third single and album June/July time i reckon and make it summer dominant.
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Old 24-01-2013, 00:14
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I love Madeon he did a song for ellie Goulding which i'm in love with so be interesting to see what they come up with.
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Old 24-01-2013, 06:49
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Oh i hope he isnt cut! he is so inspired and i like his sounds that he has had on the BTW album and Dance In The Dark...would love to hear the next stage...White Shadow gets the more intense side of things...his personality is vile but i like sonically what he did too....Madeon i am glad is involved for definite too will be interesting what the combination of DJs means for Artpop....we will see and hear.

And yes i think an announcement will happen in March as she starts to round up the tour, and then of course whatever has been filmed is all set for first single and/or needs to be filmed for Spring release...then a gap, then follow up early summer with second single/video and then key into third single and album June/July time i reckon and make it summer dominant.
The song she played in her car ages ago, the title track and swan song IIRC, sounded very Fernando circa Heavy Metal Lover...so it's possible that they have some tracks long finished.

His chat came alongside her talking about the decay of the superstar...which she hasn't mentioned in ages, so there are rumours that she's changed tact and with it the related early material (aka Fernando's stuff).

I'm expecting an announcement on Grammy night, or at least in February. Gaga ain't got time for other girls getting all the attention.
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Old 24-01-2013, 07:18
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She looked so beautiful at the inauguration concert! Just think in the four years he's already been President, she's gone from being a virtual nobody (in the mainstream sense) to being a superstar (in every sense :P) can't watch the video on my phone but my guess is she sounded great!
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Old 24-01-2013, 07:25
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I do think Gaga is always a different experience to work with than other artists. Just my opinion of course but from what we know of her she's very demanding of herself and others when it comes to creating music. So I always think her work with different producers and DJs brings out something alternative than their work with other artists. RedOne's work has become almost recognisable and generic but I do think with Gaga, he has the ability to create something magical. I think she pushes in a way other artists just don't.

I think this also may be the reason why ARTPOP is taking longer than we originally thought. She's so picky, she's not going to put anything out that she's isn't 100% happy with, and neither are such high calibre producers like Zedd or Madeon. That's a lot of different people who have to be completely happy with something.

I do hope that Garibay has some stuff on ARTPOP, I think his productions are so layered and interesting! But maybe her idea for the album has changed since they worked together, and those songs don't fit the blueprint anymore. Still there's always the app and I have a feeling she's going to use that to release music that isn't on the album(s).

I'm still here for the two volumes of ARTPOP - it presents a nice contrast and works with the whole idea of ART (here the more experimental/less radio friendly tracks) and POP (more commercial). Why do I feel like what she releases is just going to come out of left field and completely floor us? I have this feeling that what we're going to get is so different from anything we've had from her before. It might be an even bigger direction change than TF/TFM to BTW was!!

But she's planning something big. That much is obvious. This launch is going to be massive and I think they want to do it properly this time - she's not playing around anymore. Bring on ARTPOP!!
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Old 24-01-2013, 12:15
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She definitely doesn't seem to be playing around anymore does she? I think this is why she has been quite distant as of late with her fans and the media. I think she is literally making herself "fade" so that she can come back with a huge bang. She definitely knows what she is doing that I am sure of.

Apparently though the song she played in her car wasn't actually an ARTPOP song at all, it was just a song. Some even said it isn't even a Gaga song whilst some say it is "Nothing on (But The Radio) which if this is the case I am in heaven; she definitely should have released this track. It is too difficult to make out the track she plays in her car. You would have thought those Monsters listening would have posted some of the lyrics they remember online...


To be honest the next Gaga-related thing I think we are going to get is the Cher collab. Cher did say 'Greatest' would be her second single so should be any time soon. Not much for Cher but I loved Gaga's demo of 'greatest' so cannot wait.
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Old 24-01-2013, 12:23
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Oh and also this snippet leaked the other day, not sure if people have heard it yet but it has actually been claimed to be "real" by the media (But then again...)

I'm not sure if it is real or not but we shall see.

https://soundcloud.com/btwreborn/lad...het-dj-white-1
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Old 24-01-2013, 16:24
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The song she played in her car ages ago, the title track and swan song IIRC, sounded very Fernando circa Heavy Metal Lover...so it's possible that they have some tracks long finished.

His chat came alongside her talking about the decay of the superstar...which she hasn't mentioned in ages, so there are rumours that she's changed tact and with it the related early material (aka Fernando's stuff).

I'm expecting an announcement on Grammy night, or at least in February. Gaga ain't got time for other girls getting all the attention.
You know the "decay of superstar" i reckon she could do within the album....for example have four big songs in a row and then have her and Fernando make a 5 song-story in the middle of the album and then 4 songs to climax the album...maybe on "ART" perhaps?? I would very much like that...and what with the Disney Princess allusions (which i find really cool) maybe exploring with a kinda 60s/Boho Princess in the world? Would be interesting!

But i very much would hope Fernando is prominant and also that the decay of superstar concept is alive somewhat within it too....we will see....but whatever it is i hope it really shapes who SHE is! While i love her influences incorporated in her music/looks/performances i feel very much that has come to a head now and now she should mash up other ventures/concepts/ideas not done before to make her THE gaga so-to-speak?
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Old 24-01-2013, 16:27
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She definitely doesn't seem to be playing around anymore does she? I think this is why she has been quite distant as of late with her fans and the media. I think she is literally making herself "fade" so that she can come back with a huge bang. She definitely knows what she is doing that I am sure of.

Apparently though the song she played in her car wasn't actually an ARTPOP song at all, it was just a song. Some even said it isn't even a Gaga song whilst some say it is "Nothing on (But The Radio) which if this is the case I am in heaven; she definitely should have released this track. It is too difficult to make out the track she plays in her car. You would have thought those Monsters listening would have posted some of the lyrics they remember online...


To be honest the next Gaga-related thing I think we are going to get is the Cher collab. Cher did say 'Greatest' would be her second single so should be any time soon. Not much for Cher but I loved Gaga's demo of 'greatest' so cannot wait.
I like CHer, she loves everyone but has a great way of making it sound like she hates everyone Although tbh she never truly made an album that was an "album" if that makes sense (although Its A Mans World album is great IMO!) But i feel that it all may be scrapped by the sound of it...or not be an actual released song....i wouldnt think anyhow...sounds like she is to have everyone under the sun on the record...gaga, P!nk, Christina, Sia, Timbaland, Redone, David guetta XD ah man...anything for anything :P

And as for the demo i wasnt a fan...so will be intrigued as to how it will be shaped and changed maybe? if it ever is unearthed??
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Old 24-01-2013, 16:29
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I think the problem with Gaga (at present) is she's not being very clear on what the album is going to be about. When the album title was announced (and she performed 'Princess Die') fans speculated (and I think she even said this) that it was going to be about the "decay of a superstar". But skip forward 8 months, she's saying it's about truth etc. So it's one big circle (ala Born This Way in many ways).

I don't doubt that is the plan though. Realistically she owes us nothing at all, she's working on her album and she's taking as much time as she feels necessary for it to be completed.
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Old 24-01-2013, 16:31
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I do think Gaga is always a different experience to work with than other artists. Just my opinion of course but from what we know of her she's very demanding of herself and others when it comes to creating music. So I always think her work with different producers and DJs brings out something alternative than their work with other artists. RedOne's work has become almost recognisable and generic but I do think with Gaga, he has the ability to create something magical. I think she pushes in a way other artists just don't.

I think this also may be the reason why ARTPOP is taking longer than we originally thought. She's so picky, she's not going to put anything out that she's isn't 100% happy with, and neither are such high calibre producers like Zedd or Madeon. That's a lot of different people who have to be completely happy with something.

I do hope that Garibay has some stuff on ARTPOP, I think his productions are so layered and interesting! But maybe her idea for the album has changed since they worked together, and those songs don't fit the blueprint anymore. Still there's always the app and I have a feeling she's going to use that to release music that isn't on the album(s).

I'm still here for the two volumes of ARTPOP - it presents a nice contrast and works with the whole idea of ART (here the more experimental/less radio friendly tracks) and POP (more commercial). Why do I feel like what she releases is just going to come out of left field and completely floor us? I have this feeling that what we're going to get is so different from anything we've had from her before. It might be an even bigger direction change than TF/TFM to BTW was!!

But she's planning something big. That much is obvious. This launch is going to be massive and I think they want to do it properly this time - she's not playing around anymore. Bring on ARTPOP!!
I think these aspects of what remind me a lot of Madonna...gaga has the same drive, she i really INTO the music/creative aspect and when people/procuders/collaborators speak of them in the studio it is always lovely to hear...like Patrick Leonard, Nile Rodgers, Shep Pettibone, William Orbit, Mirwais, Stuart Price etc in their respective albums/eras working with her...and what i have found interesting is how the likes of Redone, Fernando have spoken of her in the studio before too Thats what i love also the way they respectively utilise other producers input to alter direction/sound etc.....thats what i love anyway...when an artist evolves

But it will be interesting what comes into fruition....i think it will be safe to say Madeon will be a bigger name by this time next year, and Zedd will be more prominent than usual too by the sound of it too.

And yes HM i love that Ellie song too
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Old 24-01-2013, 17:33
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Somehow I think that The Greatest Thing diet has gone to te great Gaga Bermuda Triangle / still it might materialise, you never know!

I thought she sounded great at the inauguration ball - I love when she does her hits acoustically, and this is why she is at the moment incomparable to her peers. Nobody else (that i know of anyway) currently reworks their songs (and every song mind you) to work with just piano, and perform it - with some songs differently each time. It's like she just sees how she feels when she's playing and it comes out.

I agree with what you said JP - it's supported by the music. You can tell from the quality of Madonna's music that she demands the best not only of herself but also her team. I feel that maybe that went array with MDNA but that's by the by and not really relevant anymore, she doesn't have anything to prove. Gaga has the same drive I feel, to make sure that nothing is half done or to not settle for anything other than what she and the other creators are happy with. This is why her stuff is different, and production wise so rich. If you strip away her vocals and just listen to the instrumentals there's so much detail and complex layering - it's so clever!

ARTPOP will be what it will be and I've given up trying to second guess her. If there's anything this era has taught me so far it's to expect the unexpected. Or to just not expect anything at all she's constantly writing and constantly inspired so ideas and concepts will change over time. And who knows? If she doesn't end up referencing decay of an idol this time round, she'll revisit it - it's something she's mentioned multiple times and obviously something that interests her.
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Old 24-01-2013, 19:12
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Somehow I think that The Greatest Thing diet has gone to te great Gaga Bermuda Triangle / still it might materialise, you never know!

I thought she sounded great at the inauguration ball - I love when she does her hits acoustically, and this is why she is at the moment incomparable to her peers. Nobody else (that i know of anyway) currently reworks their songs (and every song mind you) to work with just piano, and perform it - with some songs differently each time. It's like she just sees how she feels when she's playing and it comes out.

I agree with what you said JP - it's supported by the music. You can tell from the quality of Madonna's music that she demands the best not only of herself but also her team. I feel that maybe that went array with MDNA but that's by the by and not really relevant anymore, she doesn't have anything to prove. Gaga has the same drive I feel, to make sure that nothing is half done or to not settle for anything other than what she and the other creators are happy with. This is why her stuff is different, and production wise so rich. If you strip away her vocals and just listen to the instrumentals there's so much detail and complex layering - it's so clever!

ARTPOP will be what it will be and I've given up trying to second guess her. If there's anything this era has taught me so far it's to expect the unexpected. Or to just not expect anything at all she's constantly writing and constantly inspired so ideas and concepts will change over time. And who knows? If she doesn't end up referencing decay of an idol this time round, she'll revisit it - it's something she's mentioned multiple times and obviously something that interests her.
Yeah i believe there definitely IS a place lol...considering all these ideas stem back to 2010 lol.

And yeah i love that though, where you have multi-meanings and interpretations with songs, it makes it all the more special, and also allows it to grow over time...i mean in 5 - 10 years from now people will look back through her albums and say BTW is an underrated album, most definitely. There is a lot to take on board and understand.

And totally...i mean i love MDNA but i do definitely agree in comparison to her previous albums specifically 1st to 10th its not a patch...but considering that its still concise AND 30 years into her legacy most artists in her contemporaries faded 5 years in...quite the feat Whereas with gaga, shes keeping it fresh echoing the past and mixing it up with the rpesent....enough of the fan war crap, we know gaga is here to stay for however long she wishes to....pretense and whatever it all adds to it :P therefore i do agree that what some posters have said that she will have a "Prince-like" career in a sense....and eventually become a name to mention alongside previous music Icons like Iggy Pop etc...obviously not the SAME but in her own way...itll be interesting...she is in her fifth year of prominance and ARTPOP is her most important album/era i truly feel overall which is why its so intriguing.

And yeah concepts fade out and come back into fruition, but the idea of "decay/fame/celebrity" is so damn intriguing too.
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Old 24-01-2013, 23:30
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So she's confirmed this Jazz album with Tony Bennett, of course detail wise there's next to nothing but let's hope it's happening at some point this year haha!
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Old 24-01-2013, 23:32
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Well i wont be endorsing in THAT lol! although i must admit i am glad she is embracing her Jazzy side somewhat....even if its kinda a co-production teamwork with that may tease that one day in the future she may do her own "Im Breathless", "Back To Basics" style moment and embrace Jazz as a conceptualised album in the future....would be interesting.
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Old 24-01-2013, 23:35
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Well i wont be endorsing in THAT lol! although i must admit i am glad she is embracing her Jazzy side somewhat....even if its kinda a co-production teamwork with that may tease that one day in the future she may do her own "Im Breathless", "Back To Basics" style moment and embrace Jazz as a conceptualised album in the future....would be interesting.
She would be foolish not to explore the Jazz side, she has the voice for it as proven on Lady Is a Tramp, I doubt this will really be an artistic drive thing just a fun project, she has a great relationship with Tony, he's probably like her father so I imagine it will be a treat
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Old 24-01-2013, 23:45
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She would be foolish not to explore the Jazz side, she has the voice for it as proven on Lady Is a Tramp, I doubt this will really be an artistic drive thing just a fun project, she has a great relationship with Tony, he's probably like her father so I imagine it will be a treat
Yeah i reckon die hards and Tony fans will lap at it...and yeah it should be fun for her and her partnership with him but definitely its not a "gaga project" hopefully this will be released November time this year however for the Christmas market like Kylie did with her Abbey Road Sessions...although obviously different as that was a "Kylie project" and a retrospective BUT i do think Jazz and Tony Bennet with her at CHristmas/Winter will ensure the album has its time to shine

But tbh Artpop news must be soon :P...lol "soon"
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Old 24-01-2013, 23:52
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Yeah i reckon die hards and Tony fans will lap at it...and yeah it should be fun for her and her partnership with him but definitely its not a "gaga project" hopefully this will be released November time this year however for the Christmas market like Kylie did with her Abbey Road Sessions...although obviously different as that was a "Kylie project" and a retrospective BUT i do think Jazz and Tony Bennet with her at CHristmas/Winter will ensure the album has its time to shine

But tbh Artpop news must be soon :P...lol "soon"
Yeah the Christmas market would be the best to go for, who knows? Maybe a bit of Christmas single? That would be nice and I think Jazz is one of those genres that really works at that time of year. Yeah kind of like Kylie, it seems to be a formula several artists have tried. It would be a nice change for Gaga though, away from the sound affects and glossy productions and to something just nice classy and refreshing

"soon" my pretty, "soon"
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Old 25-01-2013, 00:23
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Is ARTPOP still going to be a two parter which will make 3 new albums this year ?

I have to admit against my better judgements i am excited for ARTPOP. Apart from the initial hype it's been kept lowkey. she has hopefully learned fromt he farce that was BTW and the ensuing lukewarm reception. Hopefully this time too the music will stand up to scrutiny and she starts to fullfill her potential or im off ship and giving up
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Old 25-01-2013, 08:04
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Is ARTPOP still going to be a two parter which will make 3 new albums this year ?

I have to admit against my better judgements i am excited for ARTPOP. Apart from the initial hype it's been kept lowkey. she has hopefully learned fromt he farce that was BTW and the ensuing lukewarm reception. Hopefully this time too the music will stand up to scrutiny and she starts to fullfill her potential or im off ship and giving up
My guess, which is only a guess, is that the album won't come til summer time anyway and if it is still a 2 volume project (no official confirmation) then I doubt she'd release the second this year. I wonder whether the jazz album will be an ep or a full album? Would love it to be released around Xmas time and for them to do a few shows together to promote it. This is a side I'd love to see Gaga explore more, she's got a great jazz voice and it allows her to tone down the theatrics a little (you don't really have hardcore choreography with jazz lol) and have lots of fun on stage with Tony who she clearly gets on really well with!

I can't wait to see what this year brings us!
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Old 25-01-2013, 10:04
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PINK-&-FLUFFY, how did you get on with the unreleased gaga songs? Did you manage to listen to them yet?

One I just remembered which I absolutely love, is 'Big Girl Now' ft. New Kids On The Block (okay it's not unreleased but was on their album..i think).
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Old 25-01-2013, 10:15
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tracystapes, I haven't had chance to sort them out yet as I need to add them to my iTunes Library & haven't had time yet...hehe! Do you have 'Big Girl Now'??? Lol!
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Old 25-01-2013, 10:32
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Pink and Fluffy where have you been? We've missed you!

I wonder what her unreleased stuff is like from BTW or TFM. An I'm not talking Stuck on F***in' you! There must loads of songs she didn't use...
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Old 25-01-2013, 10:40
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Pink and Fluffy where have you been? We've missed you!

I wonder what her unreleased stuff is like from BTW or TFM. An I'm not talking Stuck on F***in' you! There must loads of songs she didn't use...
Oh my I was wondering the same thing today! We have heard tons of Fame 'unreleased' tracks but nothing of the other two albums. I really want to hear some of the other songs that didn't make the cut.
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