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Old 03-02-2013, 13:58
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DIdint like Machete at all...i loved that fake trailer from Tarantino/Rodriguez grindhouse film in 2007! But the film itself was just dire so have zero pull for the sequel....

WHereas Sin City 2 is actually intriguing i LOVED the first film...very much like the comics in so many respects so i think that would be a better role for her in many aspects We will see however
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Old 03-02-2013, 14:33
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Yes you're right - and anyway Beyonc้ would never sing somebody else's song in her Super Bowl set. If they were to duet it'd be videophone and let's face it - she has a wealth of better hits to sing than that!

I'd love for her to do a Tarantino movie, I think they'd work well together. I'm still hoping for a collaboration between them in the future, like him directing one of her videos. He likes her and thinks highly of her, and they've met a few times and of course he lent her the pussy wagon for the telephone video so anything is possible

I'd like Klein to direct her first ARTPOP video though - the fame advert is amazing and didn't he do Alejandro as well? I think that's an amazing video, though obviously very complex and different from what people thought they were getting from the song.
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Old 03-02-2013, 15:29
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I think Klein has a great aesthetic for a tainted and slightly twisted commentary on fame/celebrity/culture. His work is highly stylised but saturated and very glamorous but edgy, which is perfect. There's also a cinematic scope that could bring us a beautiful, epic video.

His work with Gaga is on the goth side of things so far, but he can do colour too so the fans who will inevitably lose their shit because they don't want "DarkGa" should calm down.

I foresee it being very Warholian, but not in the multi-coloured pop art way many are expecting (because, you know, he did more than repetitive celebrity portraits and soup cans). "Sleep" has already been referenced by her at the FAME launch.
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Old 03-02-2013, 15:32
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I hope it's not going to be dark like so much of the Born This Way campaign was. It should've been bright, camp and clich้.

I think The Fame/The Fame Monster had a great balance of light/dark. Except Alejandro. I'm still mad about that.
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Old 03-02-2013, 20:22
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I think Klein has a great aesthetic for a tainted and slightly twisted commentary on fame/celebrity/culture. His work is highly stylised but saturated and very glamorous but edgy, which is perfect. There's also a cinematic scope that could bring us a beautiful, epic video.

His work with Gaga is on the goth side of things so far, but he can do colour too so the fans who will inevitably lose their shit because they don't want "DarkGa" should calm down.

I foresee it being very Warholian, but not in the multi-coloured pop art way many are expecting (because, you know, he did more than repetitive celebrity portraits and soup cans). "Sleep" has already been referenced by her at the FAME launch.
I think his work with Gaga has been on the goth side of things thus far mostly because of the music that he's collaborated on with her. I mean, Alejandro turned out to be very different from how I expected - but actually if I really think about the lyrics and everything, the video is amazing. It's so deep on many levels, and so clever with it's imagery. I wouldn't mind another video like that - but I can understand people being frustrated with the video. It was definitely not what was expected to go with that song! I mean I didn't understand what the hell was going on at first, but after a while I think I understand...

This I think will be Gaga's major problem. To what point does she give the general public what they want - fun pop with catchy hooks, and clever lyrics (generic seeming at first but with enough depth to keep people happy) or do what she wants? Which is create a multi-layered art performance piece that not everybody is going to buy into or accept.

She's getting a lot of negative publicity at the moment, which maybe I just never noticed before and it was always there or what... I hope ARTPOP wins people round this time, because she's so talented and clever and I think she's got a lot to give - but i don't think people give her the chance really. In my opinion people are too quick to label things pretentious that they don't understand, or just dismiss it as attention-seeking. What popstar isn't attention-seeking??
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Old 03-02-2013, 23:04
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I think his work with Gaga has been on the goth side of things thus far mostly because of the music that he's collaborated on with her. I mean, Alejandro turned out to be very different from how I expected - but actually if I really think about the lyrics and everything, the video is amazing. It's so deep on many levels, and so clever with it's imagery. I wouldn't mind another video like that - but I can understand people being frustrated with the video. It was definitely not what was expected to go with that song! I mean I didn't understand what the hell was going on at first, but after a while I think I understand...

This I think will be Gaga's major problem. To what point does she give the general public what they want - fun pop with catchy hooks, and clever lyrics (generic seeming at first but with enough depth to keep people happy) or do what she wants? Which is create a multi-layered art performance piece that not everybody is going to buy into or accept.

She's getting a lot of negative publicity at the moment, which maybe I just never noticed before and it was always there or what... I hope ARTPOP wins people round this time, because she's so talented and clever and I think she's got a lot to give - but i don't think people give her the chance really. In my opinion people are too quick to label things pretentious that they don't understand, or just dismiss it as attention-seeking. What popstar isn't attention-seeking??
It's certainly going to be interesting to see how she balances the "ART" to the "POP". It's a challenge, but doable. I think it comes down to;

1) Big, catchy pop singles with killer beats. Very "Gaga" but not off-putting.
2) Have epic videos and performances. Really go all out on spectacle and scope.
3) Be dark and weird, but visually light. Entertaining on the surface, depth if you look for it.
4) Look pretty. Shallow, but not opting for "sexy ugly" would help her tenfold.

I wouldn't worry about negative publicity. "All press is good press" isn't a positive spin, it's the truth. The media is still reporting on anything and everything because they know Gaga attracts attention, which is good because it means that interest is there. Doesn't matter if it's positive or negative because it's sustaining relevance.

Furthermore, it's worth remembering that the people on here do not represent the GP. Particularly not the ones mouthing off in comment sections/forums. We are all a minority with heightened interest. The average person will maybe catch some of the goings on (i.e. Gaga's weight gain) but not the rest, or at least don't care enough to retain that information let alone hold it against her.

People still buy Chris Browns music and he beat the shit out of the Nations sweetheart. Gaga will be fine.
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Old 04-02-2013, 13:50
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I hope it's not going to be dark like so much of the Born This Way campaign was. It should've been bright, camp and clich้.

I think The Fame/The Fame Monster had a great balance of light/dark. Except Alejandro. I'm still mad about that.
I totally agree, I want bright electronic and neon colours, we can't have more darkness.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:42
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One of Gaga's latest tweets "Up late tracklisting these Kansas City Ribs are off the chain" I am sure you may have seen but this leads me to think the first single won't be long indeed! Definitely end of March.
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:31
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One of Gaga's latest tweets "Up late tracklisting these Kansas City Ribs are off the chain" I am sure you may have seen but this leads me to think the first single won't be long indeed! Definitely end of March.
Yeah I'm thinking we'll get something in March too. I reckon by the end of April we will know the album release date too.
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:07
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Yeah I'm thinking we'll get something in March too. I reckon by the end of April we will know the album release date too.
She will have to get her timing right as Bouncy is going to be everywhere for a while and she will have to avoid a clash with her release dates
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Old 05-02-2013, 14:44
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I reckon she'll release when BTWB finishes - then she'll be able to promote it properly. But she'll want to find out what Beyonce is doing, as slojo says, so she can plan accordingly!

She's going to want this era to go perfectly, which is why I think they're waiting til the tour is over - so they're not repeating the same mistakes. But Beyonce has played the beginning of this year very well, and rightly so deserves to be everywhere! Anyway Gaga knows what she's doing and will hoepfully be planning something awesome i still can't wait to hear what part nasa are playing in all of this!!!
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Old 05-02-2013, 17:56
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I agree, I think Gaga originally had planned to release the album months ago and do a "rushed" promotion whilst touring like she did with BTW album which is why I think she revealed the album name way back. Obviously she then realised that ARTPOP was actually a 'make or break' it so to say and wanted to do it perfectly so that was why it was pushed back by months and why, despite knowing the album title, haven't heard much at all since.

I am glad she has realised this, I don't think personally ARTPOP is a 'make or break' but I think for the general consumer it is.
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Old 05-02-2013, 22:13
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I don't think a 2012 release has been on the cards for a LONG time. It just doesn't work out.

She played the album demos to her label in July, and with touring there wouldn't be enough time to record and remaster it for a Q4 debut. Plus, I doubt she'd want to finish the album without her producers there...and Zedd/Madeon/DJWS are only just now on tour with her.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:16
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She tweeted lyrics! And/or a song title! I'm sure of it!

SEX DREAMS!
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Old 06-02-2013, 11:14
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She tweeted lyrics! And/or a song title! I'm sure of it!

SEX DREAMS!
We could be caught, were both convicted criminals of thought. -Sex Dreams

I think it's meant to be 'we're' instead of were but who knows?

Also is Here I Go Again a possible title? She tweeted that recently, but maybe she just capitalises things randomly...

'Here I Go Again on my own, but in Kansas City I won't feel alone, #BTWBALL show #94 thats number sign not hashtag'
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Old 06-02-2013, 15:08
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She's giving away tons of hints, we'll only know for sure when the album drops
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Old 06-02-2013, 17:34
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LOVE these new lyrics but I have to admit I am hating "Sex Dreams" as a title. It screams Rihanna to me but we shall see!
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Old 06-02-2013, 21:22
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'Sex Dreams' is a little give-it-all-upfront for me. "Criminals of Thought" is much better.

'Here I Go Again on my own, but in Kansas City I won't feel alone, #BTWBALL show #94 thats number sign not hashtag'
I feel if this is a lyric, it'll be "Here I Go Again on my own, but in New York City I won't feel alone".

'Here I Go Again' isn't a very Gaga title...so she may have just been trolling with the capitalisation?
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Old 06-02-2013, 21:58
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Hmm I didn't like the title Sex Dreams at first but I'm warming to it, I imagine it could become a monster favourite haha! Here I Go Again could maybe be about her struggle with fame?
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:36
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I'll judge the title when I hear the song in full! But at least we have something! And there'd been no speculation about this as a possible title so it's brand new information she's being very forward with the fact that she's spending a lot of time at the studio and track listing etc so hopefully the album is nearly ready!

I can't decide whether I'm anticipating this album more than I was BTW! Can't wait to finally have a full album of new music
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Old 07-02-2013, 09:21
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I'm definitely anticipating this album more than BTW. A few reasons are, I was so excited for BTW (album) until I heard BTW (single). Although I liked the single I just wasn't gripped by it as I had been on previous singles.

Also Gaga (it seems) has taken a longer break this time, so she's ready for a comeback!
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:20
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I'm definitely anticipating this album more than BTW. A few reasons are, I was so excited for BTW (album) until I heard BTW (single). Although I liked the single I just wasn't gripped by it as I had been on previous singles.

Also Gaga (it seems) has taken a longer break this time, so she's ready for a comeback!
I was hyped for BTW but I also didn't like the single at first when I heard it. I thought it was kinda meh as lead singles go. I don't mind it now though. At that time I didn't know about all the speculation really about the album before it came out, whereas now I feel a lot more clued up lol, even if most of the speculation will be proven to be false!

The thing with Gaga is we don't know what ideas stem from what. For all we know she's had ideas about this for ages, or snippets of songs for years and only now using them. Or she could have written it in the timeframe we have from BTW onwards. Who knows? I think she's taking a lot of time to perfect it and make sure it's exactly how she wants it. I'm sure she was disappointed with how BTW turned out in terms of what it could have been - so she's going to want to get everything perfect this time around.
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:20
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Typically, when workers publicly strike out against bosses who treat them badly, their peers in the industry rally behind them. The world of personal assistants is, apparently, different.

Lady Gaga's former personal assistant, Jennifer O'Neill, recently filed a lawsuit saying she's owed thousands of dollars for over 7,000 hours in overtime. In the suit, she also complains about having to cater to Gaga in the middle of the night. But an industry insider says, first, that long hours are par for the course in the personal assistant world, and second, that lawsuits like these leave the entire industry — assistants and VIPs alike — "terrified."

Brian Daniel, the founder and owner of the Celebrity Personal Assistant Network, a headhunting firm that pairs celebrities with personal assistants, says the lawsuit is "sending shockwaves through the whole industry" because the attention could make agreements more formalized, which would be a major change in an industry where deals are largely done under the table.

Daniel says thousands of Hollywood assistants are paid in cash, meaning neither the employer nor employee pays taxes. If a high-profile case sheds light on this practice, it could mean more regulation — and less cash — for celebrities and assistants alike. "The city of LA is bankrupt, so when the sirens go off, it's like the mob. They really don't want attention drawn to us."

He also says the complaints filed by O'Neill don't make much sense to him. "Standard operating procedure is that being a personal assistant is a salaried position, because you have no way to predict how many hours you'll be working," he says. "And it's odd that she worked for Gaga for a few years, and then when the relationship dissolved, there's a lawsuit. If you had objections, you should have said something three months in."

Beyond that — O'Neill was being paid $75,000 a year, well over the industry standard. Daniel says most assistants for top celebrities can expect around $60,000, while some make much less.

Lady Gaga also reacted to the lawsuit by saying that perks — like "sleep[ing in] Egyptian cotton sheets every night, in five-star hotels, on private planes, eating caviar, partying with Terry Richardson all night, wearing my clothes, asking YSL to send her free shoes" — should be considered part of an assistant's compensation. Daniel mostly agrees. Before starting the Celebrity Personal Assistant Network, he worked for the Saudi royal family, where he made over $250,000 a year. But he says he considered his total compensation to be more than that. "When you're working for these people, you have to consider that part of the pay is the lifestyle. You're staying in Ritz Carlton, you're driving Ferraris, you're flying on private planes.
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Glad that industry folk are calling the lawsuit out.

The woman was hired as a favour, got accustomed to a lifestyle that she wasn't entitled to and when Gaga - her boss - pulled rank, she didn't like it. Now she's trying to get grabby with someone else's money because she can't waltz her way into another $75,000 job.
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:42
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It's just getting attention because it's Gaga. As the guy said in the article, if she had problems with it - why stay in the job for years? She should have complained outright. It seems to me like she's just trying to make money off Gaga which must be incredibly sad for her, after years of friendship. And she's paid more than most assistants anyway, not to mention having her bed and board paid for.
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Old 07-02-2013, 13:13
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As others have said, this woman probably sued hoping Gaga would settle and pay up before the press got hold of it. The claim is so flawed that they probably didn't want it to go to court, rather get whatever they could from her to keep quiet.
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