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*The Lady Gaga Appreciation Thread* (Part 11)
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BadKid95
26-12-2012
She may release some more details at New Year
P1NK-AND-FLUFFY
26-12-2012
BadKid, I hope so hehe! *Fingers crossed!* Lol!
MissMusique
27-12-2012
I reckon we'll get it to coincide with ARTPOP maybe - I doubt we'll get it before then. But as we don't know anything about ARTPOP's release date then your guess is as good as mine!
I wonder whether she's planning a really huge opening for this era - you know with the film and hopefully loads of high profile performances for the first single. I'd like it if she did a Good Morning America or something like that where she could play a few hits and also a few tracks from the album.
Still if she is planning on releasing the film along with the app and the album/first single then I think it could go either way. It'll either be amazing in terms of promotion and revenue, but it could also just be too much Gaga. For me it'll never be enough but you know what I'm saying...
P1NK-AND-FLUFFY
27-12-2012
Can't wait to see what she has in store for us hehe!
Slojo
27-12-2012
Originally Posted by MissMusique:
“I reckon we'll get it to coincide with ARTPOP maybe - I doubt we'll get it before then. But as we don't know anything about ARTPOP's release date then your guess is as good as mine!
I wonder whether she's planning a really huge opening for this era - you know with the film and hopefully loads of high profile performances for the first single. I'd like it if she did a Good Morning America or something like that where she could play a few hits and also a few tracks from the album.
Still if she is planning on releasing the film along with the app and the album/first single then I think it could go either way. It'll either be amazing in terms of promotion and revenue, but it could also just be too much Gaga. For me it'll never be enough but you know what I'm saying...”

LOL yeah -- she has been pretty low profile (in Gaga terms) this year with few interviews and one off performances and some people will still tell you she is over- exposed

Or of course the others that say she is fading or finishd because she isn't so high profile ---------- She can't win really
P1NK-AND-FLUFFY
27-12-2012
Slojo...I know she can't win either way can she???
MissMusique
27-12-2012
Originally Posted by Slojo:
“LOL yeah -- she has been pretty low profile (in Gaga terms) this year with few interviews and one off performances and some people will still tell you she is over- exposed

Or of course the others that say she is fading or finishd because she isn't so high profile ---------- She can't win really ”

I was just thinking today as I was blasting BTW that she has had a bit of a backlash with her last album and she does need to think carefully about how she's going to market herself with this one. People found her too preachy and hypocritical with some of her statements and I thinks she needs to find a way of marrying the music of BTW (which I still think is awesome) with the feel of TF/TFM era.

BTW is what turned me into a proper fan, I really liked her before but the album proved to me that she's doing whatever the hell she likes when it comes to music, which I can only respect. I mean who is making music like GH, HML and TEOG these days?

Apparently according to LM.com she still hasn't chosen the tracklisting cos she can't choose between all the songs she's written. I get the feeling there's a mini meltdown happening on Gaga Daily because some fans feel that means she's panicking herself which I don't think is true. As somebody pointed out there, HML wasn't written until 4 weeks before the album came out and anything she doesn't put on the album she can just release on the app anyway. Her fanbase certainly like to get hysterical - what would they do if she waited 4 years between albums?!!?
Slojo
27-12-2012
Originally Posted by MissMusique:
“I was just thinking today as I was blasting BTW that she has had a bit of a backlash with her last album and she does need to think carefully about how she's going to market herself with this one. People found her too preachy and hypocritical with some of her statements and I thinks she needs to find a way of marrying the music of BTW (which I still think is awesome) with the feel of TF/TFM era.

BTW is what turned me into a proper fan, I really liked her before but the album proved to me that she's doing whatever the hell she likes when it comes to music, which I can only respect. I mean who is making music like GH, HML and TEOG these days?

Apparently according to LM.com she still hasn't chosen the tracklisting cos she can't choose between all the songs she's written. I get the feeling there's a mini meltdown happening on Gaga Daily because some fans feel that means she's panicking herself which I don't think is true. As somebody pointed out there, HML wasn't written until 4 weeks before the album came out and anything she doesn't put on the album she can just release on the app anyway. Her fanbase certainly like to get hysterical - what would they do if she waited 4 years between albums?!!?”

7m sales don't lie and BTW was a great album but I think it was too early, simply went over many peoples heads and they didn't understand it. I think it should have been her 3rd album

I'm sure she understands the backlash (even though she wouldn't agree with it) and I've said all along that I think Artpop will fall somewhere between TF/TFM and BTW.

It will be upto date and progressive but will feel like it bridges the gap between TF/TFM and BTW

As she is a musician more than a singer I think she sometimes gets torn between the commercial side of being a popstar and the art of making music.

Then again I could be talking total tosh and she will suprise everybody
P1NK-AND-FLUFFY
27-12-2012
I hope that she slays in 2013, bring it on hehe! So can't wait!
MissMusique
27-12-2012
Originally Posted by Slojo:
“7m sales don't lie and BTW was a great album but I think it was too early, simply went over many peoples heads and they didn't understand it. I think it should have been her 3rd album

I'm sure she understands the backlash (even though she wouldn't agree with it) and I've said all along that I think Artpop will fall somewhere between TF/TFM and BTW.

It will be upto date and progressive but will feel like it bridges the gap between TF/TFM and BTW

As she is a musician more than a singer I think she sometimes gets torn between the commercial side of being a popstar and the art of making music.

Then again I could be talking total tosh and she will suprise everybody ”

This is all true - 7m is very impressive and it does annoy me when people say it's a flop! Cos even if you split the Fame and Fame Monster sales in half it kind of equals itself out as around 7m each anyway (I think?!)

I agree with your point of BTW coming too early - I think it was too big a leap from TFM and people just didn't get it. That's when her image really started to confuse people and they started paying more attention to that rather than her music.

I'm hoping ARTPOP will still be a progression from BTW but perhaps a more coherent one - and I hope that it doesn't come across as going back to TF sound. Even though some people say they want that sound back, if she were to do it, it'd be career suicide I think.

We'll just have to wait and see but I'm eager more news or a snippet of something at least, I want to know kind of sound to expect! OR with gaga, expect the unexpected eh?
Josh Pinder
27-12-2012
Bit late i know but just read about gagas movie project with Terry RIchardson (ugh he gives me the creeps but whatever) i must say it is an interesting prospect most definitely and we will see what the outcome is definitely....but it really does broaden the scope for the ARTPOP album/project.

And as has been discussed on here already...Born This Way regardless of what some call it i still have it as a favourite of 2011 (third only to Pala by Friendly Fires and Ceremonials by Florence) it reminds me of summer 2011 and still almost 2 years on the majority of songs have grown on me even moreso And as has been said Born This Way sold well based on name, the fact that it was the most promoted album bar none and it came off of her debut era into her second stage, so all this of course lead to stable sales...only marginally less than TF/TFM collectively....so tbh that was very consistent.

But like i say before i do love the "tiers" Born This Way has in its production...the odes to her heroes in music and her influences....those Madonna, Bowie, Queen, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Whitney, grace jones, Springsteen influences stemming out of the sounds/vocals/lyrics with a contemporary vibe of Electro/Dance meets with Techno blares of underground producers such as Miss Kittin et al.....brilliant

And i do hope that Fernando stays on board for ARTPOP as i feel that his partnership with gaga definitely is a strength melodically definitely, and Redone (though i love Hair and Schiesse) kept to a minimum...ZEDD should be an interesting changeup...but again i hope that the final result is not Clubby/Electropop throwaway stuff which IMO The Fame mainly consisted of...we do need melodies and structure as well as personality of course which i feel Born This Way heavily headed toward .
MissMusique
28-12-2012
Some lyrics from Artpop?

Lady Gaga ‏@ladygaga
I try to sell myself but I am really laughing, because I just love the music not the bling - ARTPOP 2013

I wonder whether this will be spoken or sung? I have a feeling it's likely to be spoken...

She's been talking a lot also about the BornBrave bus that will be starting up for the US tour dates of BTW Ball. I think it's a really great initiative and hopefully will help out those who seek it.
toanythingtaboo
28-12-2012
Those lyrics don't read particularly well. A bit clumsy, IMO.

Then again, some of BTW's lyrics on paper...
MissMusique
28-12-2012
They may not be lyrics but the fact that it rhymes makes me think they could be... It is rather clumsy and does not scan well at all!! She can do so much better than this - but who knows, her lyrics have always been a little on the crazy side!
toanythingtaboo
28-12-2012
She usually manages to make poor/clumsy lyrics sound good in song, so fingers crossed.
MissMusique
29-12-2012
Originally Posted by toanythingtaboo:
“She usually manages to make poor/clumsy lyrics sound good in song, so fingers crossed.”

Who could forget 'I've learnt love is like a brick you can, build a house or sink a dead body'

I like it as a lyric but it doesn't scan particularly well!

I still think my favourite Gaga lyrics are in Edge of Glory, Marry the Night (though again, can be a little clumsy - i like the sentiments behind them) Bloody Mary, The Queen, Dance in the Dark, Paparazzi, Poker Face and Brown Eyes. A lot I know
tracystapes
29-12-2012
I'm not really a fan but Rihanna has made me laugh tonight. On Instragram someone made a picture of Gaga, Britney and Rihanna's faces in Burka's (burqa?) and Britney/Rihanna's faces clearly look photoshopped, however Gag's face actually does look like it's in the Burka

Rihanna commented: "why does gaga look legit as f*ck in hers?"
P1NK-AND-FLUFFY
01-01-2013
Just want to wish you all Happy New Year! *Hugs!*
MissMusique
01-01-2013
Happy New Year! Nursing a rather sore head still I must say...

Gaga's posted pics of the Born Brave bus which looks pretty cool, we'll see what comes of it. Strange that this and all her other charitable endeavours don't get reported but anything that can be spun negatively gets attention!
toanythingtaboo
01-01-2013
Happy New Year!

The Brave Bus etc. has been reported on. The usual suspects turned up to trash her. Apparently it's a ploy to get people to buy tickets? I don't really see the logic on that, who would be convinced to pay $100+ to go see Gaga purely to get free counselling?
P1NK-AND-FLUFFY
02-01-2013
Don't get how 'Born Brave Bus' would be a Ploy lol!
gagarules86
02-01-2013
Happy New Year guys! I hope you all had a great holiday. And ignore the cynics. They clearly have no idea what they're talking about, as usual.
Slojo
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by P1NK-AND-FLUFFY:
“Don't get how 'Born Brave Bus' would be a Ploy lol! ”

Something that is in an area OUTSIDE the concert (probabley in a car park) Is FREE and available to anyone with or WITHOUT A TICKET isn't going to be much of an incentive to buy one is it

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE !!!!
P1NK-AND-FLUFFY
02-01-2013
Slojo I know hehe...exactly lol!
MissMusique
02-01-2013
I'm surprised there was no announcement of anything at new year! Too predictable maybe or perhaps it's still too early to release details.

People will knock Gaga for anything. If she doesn't say anything, she's fading, if she does something to help or for charity then it's attention seeking. Damned if she does. Damned if she doesn't!
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