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So who else was nominated?
And they are people. They could care about sales. People on the whole are stupid.
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I'm of the oppinion that whilst England was good it was not in the league of 50 words for snow but as England won the mercury and has garnered huge critical acclaim they went with that to add validity and kudos to their show a ridiculous argument to counterbalance all the others
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most likely in the opposite sense, they'd be a bit bitter that the biggest seller should also get the awards so they might be inclined to look elsewhere...i'd guess having looked they couldn't find anything to match
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That's because, and it's in the title of the thread, she won Songwriter even though she isn't or wasnt a songwriter. She was part of a team of writers.
Now, as has been said before, if it was Songwriting team or songwriters of the year, and everyone involved got an award then this thread wouldn't be here. |
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I don't think it would make any difference which award she had won, the usual people on here would be moaning about it, they would find any excuse to have a go at her. She is a songwriter, you can deny it all you like but she is.
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Ok well if she's a songwriter, what songs did she write this past year to qualify as songwriter of the year?
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Ok well if she's a songwriter, what songs did she write this past year to qualify as songwriter of the year?
Can i ask if you WRITE two versus and a chorus and part of a melody then someone finishes off the melody and final bridge as you WROTE most not all the song does that not clarify you as a songwriter even though you WROTE most if not all of it. |
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She wrote most of '21' but you know that.
Now look at 50 words for Snow or England Shake. Both written by the artist themselves. Now that is what a Best Singerwriter award should be give to. It's pretty straightforward. They even put the description on the award. You'd think one of them would have bothered to look before handing it out! |
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Ok well if she's a songwriter, what songs did she write this past year to qualify as songwriter of the year?
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21 as was stated before she probably WROTE the bulk or a ll the lyrics with others composing a melody.
Can i ask if you WRITE two versus and a chorus and part of a melody then someone finishes off the melody and final bridge as you WROTE most not all the song does that not clarify you as a songwriter even though you WROTE most if not all of it. So they Co-Write. So if you're co-writing that's fine but you don't win or get nominated for a solo award at being best at something you don't, and didn't, do on your own. |
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No. She co-wrote 21.
Now look at 50 words for Snow or England Shake. Both written by the artist themselves. Now that is what a Best Singerwriter award should be give to. It's pretty straightforward. They even put the description on the award. You'd think one of them would have bothered to look before handing it out!
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You right, she didn`t write single song in 2011. But in 2010 she did write 10 songs for 21 and 4 further songs lay in a vault in Malibu.
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As I said above she co-wrote. She didnt Write any songs on her own.
so that you would actually give the girl some recognition
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She co-wrote she ergo she wrote it what part of wrote don't you get wheter its co-wrote or wrote i men to me Pj winiing over Kate is absurd but i can get over it so you need to to we can do it together you can throw darts at Adle and I Polly
![]() Thousands of songs a co written. Hundreds of thousands, Maybe millions. My point is, and the point of the thread is, best songwriter is a solo thing. Singular. There is no 's' at the end of the word. Songwriter. On its own. Not plural. Solo. She didn't write her album herself so she shouldnt be up for Best Songwriter. Kate and Polly wrote their albums themselves. So they would both qualify for Best Songwriter category, because again there's the word 'songwriter' again. Singular. Non plural. Solo. |
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Can i ask a further question if she wrote all the lyrics but not the melodies still not a songwriter does she have to play all the instruments too
so that you would actually give the girl some recognition |
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Can i ask a further question if she wrote all the lyrics but not the melodies still not a songwriter does she have to play all the instruments too
so that you would actually give the girl some recognitionIF YOU WRITE AS A GROUP YOU SHOULD NOT BE ELIGABLE FOR A SOLO AWARD SUCH AS BEST SONGWRITER. I could try a diagram but you cant upload pictures. Best Songwriter 1 ![]() 2 or 3 or more
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We're never gonna agree so ima just be gracious in defeat but we'll meet again im sure
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We're never gonna agree so ima just be gracious in defeat but we'll meet again im sure
![]() So every part of the album he is involved in is of a lower standard than any part Adele is involved in? But if he co-wrote most of the album with her does that mean that a big chunk of the album isn't good? Parts of tracks have one part that's put together like the best written things you'll hear all year. Then the next bit of the song is Meh. ? And No bother Harv. Your wrongness aside all the best. |
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Or do the songs fit nicely together verse chorus verse as if they were written in some sort of partnership or team group effort?
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We're never gonna agree so ima just be gracious in defeat but we'll meet again im sure
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So he's not as good a songwriter as her.
So every part of the album he is involved in is of a lower standard than any part Adele is involved in? But if he co-wrote most of the album with her does that mean that a big chunk of the album isn't good? Parts of tracks have one part that's put together like the best written things you'll hear all year. Then the next bit of the song is Meh. ? And No bother Harv. Your wrongness aside all the best. ) but what i was merely saying it could have gone to anyone on 21 as they are all songwriters like Adele hsi part isnt any less than hers but she was Nominated so she ovb fits all the neccessary requirements of being a songwriter ![]() P.S im never wrong
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I get the feeling some people won't give Adele any credit until she writes all the lyrics and all the music, plays all the instruments, designs the artwork, presses the CD, and drives the lorries to deliver it to the shops
then she'll indisputably be an artist
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I don`t agree. The contain that she puts in her Songs was for her peers award worthy. That`s it. Simple as that. The Award isn`t called single songwriting award. Thank you and good night.
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I don`t agree. The contain that she puts in her Songs was for her peers award worthy. That`s it. Simple as that. The Award isn`t called single songwriting award. Thank you and good night.
The plural of 'Songwriter' is 'Songwriters' The award wasn't called Best Songwriters but was called Best Songwriter. So Single Songwriting Award isn't far of the mark. |
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The award is called songwriter not songwriters, adele winning this award has made the award pointless as its been awarded to someone who dont fit the awards criteria, maybe next year bands where mutiple band members write songs could be considered, they may as well now.
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