[Densino]

Any ratings news?

[Tribec]

I forgot to post yesterday, mind I had Falling Skies and True Blood also to watch so I was a bit meh and forgot to post about any of them.

Really interesting to see them take the storyline away from from the gang almost, and centre on something which is meant to effect the future. It was also good to see that she didn't have use of her uniform as well, that sort of made her almost a regular cop.

I'm sure at one point or other her chip in her head will go faulty, but Alec is going to be moving on so quickly with all the stuff he's learning from her that she doesn't realise she's giving him.

However it's not often even in procedual cop shows we see the villian of the week walk, so in many ways, it was a good twist at the end. However, I'm still waiting to see what's happening in the current in the future, though of course al the future flashbacks are seen through her thoughts.

[Matt D]

Rachel Nichols talks Continuum

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by Matt D

- Where/How did Kiera get that warrant? If real, how will she explain letting that woman go? I suppose she'd just say she got there too late...

- Oh, and as I said before... MAYBOURNE! Ha, they even had Tom McBeath playing a similar sort of character...military officer involved in appropriating technology and covering things up.

Pretty sure the "Warrent" was the sheet of paper the bearded activist guy gave her.

As to explaining letting the woman go, she got the info about her being at the airport from Alec, no other Cops knew about it and they already had a confession from the guy.

I doubt I'd have recognised Maybourne without you mentioning it.

Originally Posted by zwixxx

I don't buy into the "well she MUST have time jumped in the future cos otherwise she couldn't be here now" rule/thing. AND I don't buy into the "if she killed the baddies parents then they'd vanish" thing either.

I'm in the "when you travel back, your existence there creates a new timeline and thus loses the future you came from" club - so she can't RETURN to the future she left, only travel to a future which proceeded from the past she just left (that makes sense, right ?!)

There was a Keira (maybe not the same one) in the past in the original timeline though as otherwise Alec would not be manipulating events to make sure she was sent back.

[zwixxx]

Originally Posted by Corwin

There was a Keira (maybe not the same one) in the past in the original timeline though as otherwise Alec would not be manipulating events to make sure she was sent back.

- methinks I need to do a rewatch cos I didn't catch that.

So is it your thinking that there's this whole other time line which happened before the series started - my brain hurts.

[Matt D]

Originally Posted by Corwin

Pretty sure the "Warrent" was the sheet of paper the bearded activist guy gave her.

As to explaining letting the woman go, she got the info about her being at the airport from Alec, no other Cops knew about it and they already had a confession from the guy.

Yeah, I knew she got the info from Alec, which is why the "warrant" confused me.

Originally Posted by zwixxx

- methinks I need to do a rewatch cos I didn't catch that.

So is it your thinking that there's this whole other time line which happened before the series started - my brain hurts.

I think that it has all happened already, so is happening again. It's a loop, a predestination paradox. Alec touched on it in the first episode when talking to Kiera.

It would fit with things such as old Alec (CSM) presumably ensuring that the time jump happened in the first place (he was not at all surprised, seemed to have power over Kiera being in the room, and his company developed the technology). I think he engineered it for Kiera to go back because, as far as he is concerned, she already had, as he met her as a kid. I think it's likely that he even later developed the time travel tech himself specifically because his interaction with Kiera meant that he knew it was possible. Perhaps some of SadTech's inventions even come from him studying Kiera's suit and so on, which of course were invented by... SadTech.

[zwixxx]

Ahhh, the old Time Loop chestnut - 'fraid that's also on my "don#t buy into it" list.

Alex (he's the voice in her head kid, right ?!) - since there is an old Alex in the future, for the time loop to 'work' this would mean young Alex is unkillable, right ?! So were anyone to aim+fire at him, the bullets would have to miss or swerve around him or cause only nonlethal damage, right ?! And they could push him off a building and he simply bounce or land on a conveniently passing duvet delivery truck.

Although..... time loops might be on my "methinks not" list as when I try to get my head around all the what-ifs my brain starts hurting again.

( sending her back to "preserve" the time line.. ie. she HAD to go back because he met her in his past ... hmmm. Had he NOT sent her back, what do we think would have happened to all his memories of her and of all the breakthrus in technology resulting from their interactions ? Would they have all simply disappeared and there been a big cosmic flash and the world immediately appearing differently, appearing as the 2070 based on just the baddies going back ? - That way ot TT working is not for me. IMHO if she didn't go back, he'd keep his memories, the world would stay the same, only NOW Kiera would be there. QED (ish)

[Densino]

Despite most fans generally having a very positive reaction, the unofficial viewership (just in) for the 4th episode of "Continuum" is 389,000. Which is down from 531,000 viewers the previous week.

The drop in numbers seems to be the result of very strong competition last Sunday from two Special Events playing on the other Canadian networks. A mixed martial arts Special was aired by one competing channel, while another broadcast a major, Canadian music awards show. Also, there were fewer members of the show's cast live-tweeting, and that could have also hurt the numbers.

Of course the 389,000 viewers still keeps "Continuum" as the highest-rated series on the Showcase network. No doubt the producers and Showcase executives will be looking close at episode five's numbers to see if there is a re-bound, when the playing field is "level" and the competition airs it's normal programming. Also, the U.S. star of the show, Rachel Nichols, tweeted that she has received dvds of the show--so despite not being in Canada, there's a possibility that she may live-tweet during episode five.

[zwixxx]

I know ~400,000 is a great 'score' for Canada TV, but it surprises me how such a number make the show financially viable. Is the show deceptively cheap to make and/or are all the Canadian viewers in the A+++++ richasBillGates catagory ?

[Tribec]

Originally Posted by zwixxx

I know ~400,000 is a great 'score' for Canada TV, but it surprises me how such a number make the show financially viable. Is the show deceptively cheap to make and/or are all the Canadian viewers in the A+++++ richasBillGates catagory ?

The economic climate in Canada is better than most countires right now. However, I'm sure that the show is hoping to be picked up say by Sci fy in America much like Lost Girl. This coming on the coat tails of Lost Girl, will stand a good chance and that's where the money men will be looking.

[zwixxx]

^so it's the Canadian tv people having faith in their product, sure that its quality will be recognized by other tv stations and thus lead to truck loads of bucks arriving at their doors. - good for them

[lloydsimco]

Really loving this show.

[Densino]

Hopefully the ratings rebound a little tonight

[jaimesw]

Loving the show but feel it's missing something to push it forward. So far each episode has been the same old thing each time. Chase bad guys, shoot at bad guys. Bad guys get away, return again next week and try again.

[tauran_shammy]

Episode 5 and the shows really found its feet. Poor Kellog. I'm hoping Carlos gets let known what is really going on.

[tauran_shammy]

Oh and nice to see it may be an alternative timeline rather than a loop......that will keep us guessing.

[Matt D]

Interesting episode. I wonder if/when they will finally give us the "time travel rules" of the show, and explain if it definitely is a fixed loop, or a single re-writeable timeline, or a parallel timeline.

Definite Terminator vibe from the whole "Lily Jones" thing... which of course the writers were well aware of, and actually lampshaded with an explicit reference to Terminator from the blonde Lily.

[Tribec]

I found the idea that they were considering peaceful ways of changing the world interesting, though of course the change of tactics didn't last too long. However, I'm not sure if the turn around will last. It was a very interesting kicker with the switch, and now that some of the time travel rules are being brought to the fore we can begin to understand things a little more.

I'm guessing that Carlos will only figure it out at the end of the season, as doing it that way at least answers his questions if it doesn't get picked up, and also leaves the writiers plenty to work with if it does.

[Densino]

Going back to episode 4, but wasn't the liber8 girls fight scene with the crowbars EPIC??

Seriously cool!
Music/slow motion was fantastic

[MoreTears]

Originally Posted by Densino

Hopefully the ratings rebound a little tonight

473,000 was the number of viewers for episode 5, so up from the previous one.

Just so people know, next Sunday is a Canadian holiday so there won't be a new episode of Continuum airing. Showcase will instead show a catch-up marathon of the first five episodes.

[racefreak]

wasn't too sure about this series after the first episode, but it's great now. I'm a big fan of time travel movies/series, so I'm glad there's finally one back on TV and doing well for a change.

[Matt D]

Originally Posted by MoreTears

473,000 was the number of viewers for episode 5, so up from the previous one.

Just so people know, next Sunday is a Canadian holiday so there won't be a new episode of Continuum airing. Showcase will instead show a catch-up marathon of the first five episodes.

How dare you have a holiday!

Quick question: This "Section Six" that Kiera is allegedly working for, is that a totally fictional agency, or is there really a Section Six? Whatever the case, I assume in the show it is some sort of federal law enforcement agency (like the FBI) or intelligence agency (like the CIA).

[Just wondering, as some shows have real agencies, e.g. FBI & CIA, while others have fictional agencies, e.g. Division]

[zwixxx]

Time Travel question:

If I (1) had a list of all the winning lottery (England) numbers and (2) time travel was possible.
and then I time travelled to when the lottery began, not to just any location though, but to one which allowed me to have zero contact with anybody and thus not affect the time line in ANY way (admittedly such a place would be hard to find, but go with me on this).

So if I'd time travelled back with a list of winning numbers, my question is this: would the numbers in the proceeding draws be EXACT the same as the ones on my list
- btw: with THIS whatif question, I'm not allowing for my list to 'magically' update itself (like what happened on Back To The Future 3 with the "you're fired" memo).

--

As for the ep, I loved how the Indian(?) guy classed what the Baddies were doing as "an experiment". We (iiuc) had the baddies being CERTAIN that killing Granny would remove Rachel, whereas the Indian Guy wasn't sure exactly what would happen.

BTW: the baddies used time travel to go back, so time travel MUST have been invented. But surely after its invention there must have been a whole bunch of tests done, done on the consequences of going back and fiddling about with stuff - so surely any paradoxes would have been tested out to confirm / deny 'em.

[MoreTears]

Originally Posted by Matt D

Quick question: This "Section Six" that Kiera is allegedly working for, is that a totally fictional agency, or is there really a Section Six? Whatever the case, I assume in the show it is some sort of federal law enforcement agency (like the FBI) or intelligence agency (like the CIA).

[Just wondering, as some shows have real agencies, e.g. FBI & CIA, while others have fictional agencies, e.g. Division]

I have never heard of Section Six. Whether it is real or fictional, presumably it would be part of CSIS -- the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service, which is our version of your MI5/6.

But notice that since episode one there really hasn't been anything "Canada specific" about the show. They don't say anything about Vancouver anymore. This is what happens with Canadian shows that the producers hope they can sell to America, and believe me Showcase isn't paying the producers enough to avoid going broke if they can't sell this thing to the US.

[Densino]

Originally Posted by MoreTears

473,000 was the number of viewers for episode 5, so up from the previous one.

Just so people know, next Sunday is a Canadian holiday so there won't be a new episode of Continuum airing. Showcase will instead show a catch-up marathon of the first five episodes.

thats a pretty decent rebound,.

and the first time the ratings have actually gone up instead of down.
Also Still a massive rating for Showcase