I didn't mind the brightly-coloured Daleks.

I am gobsmacked that anyone should think The Great Game and The Hounds of baskerville examples of poor writing.

I may have to have a lie down to get over the shock.

Great points in Victory of the Daleks (most of which aren't mentioned often enough IMO)

"I am your soldier/ Would you care for some tea?/ You do not require tea?"

The brilliantly chilling moment when the Daleks reveal themselves -- "Correct." *shudders*

The Daleks chanting "Victory! Victory!"

Behold!... The resurrection of the master race! <-- There has never been a closer comparison
with Daleks/ Nazis than here, and it works perfectly.

The spaceship interior may have its faults, but for the clean, white space it feels very much like 1960's Who to me.

The mention of Time Corridors (squee!) at the end.

"You will never defeat us Doctor... we shall return!"

"You will never defeat us Doctor... we shall return!"

Sadly that is one line I didn't like. It's too... cliche.

I liked it as a reference to their victory, and as a menacing conclusion line, if you will. The fact that they actually managed to outwit the doctor gave the line extra gravitas, IMO

That is the upside of that entire episode - the Daleks achieved something and got away with it. They haven't yet returned to be entirely wiped out, either!

I didn't either. Even with the bulkier shape they've changed far less than the Cybermen did over the years.

Regardless of the dalek's new appearances I liked that for once they managed to get one over the Doctor, I know he always needs to defeat the enemy but it makes recurring monsters more of a threat if they can actually beat him from time to time!

awful ending talking to that robot guy with the bomb in his chest, but loved the whole episode, WOULD YOU LIKE A CUP OF TEA?

It's weird, I don't tend to think of Gatiss as a bad writer but when you look at the episodes he's contributed to Who, none of them are of a particularly great quality. I don't really like any of them tbh. Victory wasn't great and was among the low points of series 5, Night Terrors was IMHO the worst episode in series 6 and The Idiot's Lantern I found to be poor, though obviously not on a level with some of the worse episodes of that series. I haven't really rewatched much of series 1 too much but The Unquiet Dead never really blew me away either

Watched this again yesterday - do people really not like it? I thought it was a great idea, well-executed. I even liked the new Daleks, and hope we get to see them again.

I suppose the weak points for me were (a) convincing Bracewell he was human to stop the bomb going off, and (b) just letting him go, despite him knowing masses of future Dalek tech. But other than that, thoroughly enjoyed it.

What about the Spitfires in space in five minutes? Dreadful episode.

<hand waving> Dalek tech! </hand waving>

Surely the show does this sort of flim-flammery a lot, it was just a bit more 'in your face' in this episode?

Rule of Cool, man. Rule of Cool.

There was a great scene in last night's (repeat) showing of A Touch of Cloth II about continuity and implausibility (one shot had James Nesbitt with a beard, the next he was clean shaven), I'm sure that was influenced by Doctor Who fans!

I don't mind the episode but I also have a problem with the time it took to get the Spitfires up in space.

Yeah, those bits were weak, but I agree that when it came down to the Doctor dealing with the Daleks face to face, it worked well on that level. (Although they don't have faces, do they?)


I did think that stretched the Rule of Cool to the breaking point. It wasn't cool enough to overlook all the stuff you had to ignore.