[MaryKate1]

Originally Posted by augusta92

I think she is up to something.......



obviously........

Ive .no idea what..........



she seems happy enough in switzerland...although what she is doing there that was so important that it meant she broke her contract for the play ....I have no idea......

I wonder is her friend Ben as I remember his Mum lives there and could be travelling with him.

but shes smart enough to realise the response she was likely to get from her column, and instead of ignoring it....she is going on about it......probably to distract everyone from what she is really up to......

Someone mentiond Celebrity Coach Trip but not sure.


happy mentioning and quoting. greek goddesses...like NIKE......give me strength........

Probably looking for a new (freebie) pair of trainers for all the training she is doing.

[MargMck]

So now we know what CARBeyes Josie is up to... but where is the other defendant CRABeyes?

[backtoreality]

So luke deleted his twitter. If he has got any sense he will delete her from his life. I dont know if he is real as in the sense of josie real boyfriend ? some say gay friend, old friend ? what ever or who ever he is. He has been made a fool week in week out. She says he reads and agrees with everything she says well she doesnt write it. He does come across as wet and a bit thick. Have they split who knows. Was he used and abused yes in every sense. I hope he has woken up and smelt the coffee. Josie posts an old picture of luke just to show all is ok - NOT

[MaryKate1]

Originally Posted by backtoreality

So luke deleted his twitter. If he has got any sense he will delete her from his life. I dont know if he is real as in the sense of josie real boyfriend ? some say gay friend, old friend ? what ever or who ever he is. He has been made a fool week in week out. She says he reads and agrees with everything she says well she doesnt write it. He does come across as wet and a bit thick. Have they split who knows. Was he used and abused yes in every sense. I hope he has woken up and smelt the coffee.
Josie posts an old picture of luke just to show all is ok - NOT

Lion Bar anyone!

[Frillynix]

Originally Posted by MaryKate1

Lion Bar anyone!

When we see the tweets asking him to buy her Tampax we will know he is offski!!

(and anyone remember John James seemingly buying Josie underwear for Valentines Day - maybe it was for the lovely Sherrie Cobley)

Helloooooooo everyone nice to see some returning visitors

Cant be arsed boring you all with a long post as it was me who started the "cult" conversation a couple of weeks ago - but I would like to point out that noone on this thread has ever, so far as I remember, posted that her baby had just fallen off the sofa and she was finishing her post before she attended to it

Now that is worrying.

[Nosnikrapl]

Originally Posted by backtoreality

So luke deleted his twitter. If he has got any sense he will delete her from his life. I dont know if he is real as in the sense of josie real boyfriend ? some say gay friend, old friend ? what ever or who ever he is. He has been made a fool week in week out. She says he reads and agrees with everything she says well she doesnt write it. He does come across as wet and a bit thick. Have they split who knows. Was he used and abused yes in every sense. I hope he has woken up and smelt the coffee. Josie posts an old picture of luke just to show all is ok - NOT

I know. Surely folks are now really starting to question the authenticity of the JJJ stuff once they left the house. Going back to the title of this thread - all this Luke saga is only confirming the lengths Josie will go to for mag deals. It is just a repeat of what went before even down to the flippin detail.

[Haggis&Chips]

@Josiestweet cute pic of Luke and the little one. He seems to have disappeared off twitter! Is he coming back?

@ilovetoread17 no he couldn't handle people being nasty to me he said so he's deleted. He's ok though.

I see the concept of irony goes straight over TaserJo's head....

[GottaBeAdored]

Originally Posted by Haggis&Chips

@Josiestweet cute pic of Luke and the little one. He seems to have disappeared off twitter! Is he coming back?

@ilovetoread17 no he couldn't handle people being nasty to me he said so he's deleted. He's ok though.

I see the concept of irony goes straight over TaserJo's head....

I suppose that lie is an improvement on "He's just out getting me a chocolate bar"

[SpankTheMonkey]

Next Weeks MAD mag column.

Oi'm back orf me 'oliday and me man 'as done a runnah!

[cobaye22]

Originally Posted by Mardymoo

Read the book about the 'Children of God' then you will see where the cultish (is that a word lol) behaviour comes into the JJJ saga. Its not like it now, but a year or so ago, the AT was cultish, if anyone dared to voice an opinion that wasnt how the thread was going they was ostricised (sp) till they retracted their opinion. You only need to ask those on this thread how they were treated when they dared to go against the grain. and that is where the cult syndrome is evident

Josie herself even shows traits of it, if anyone dares to not kiss her arse they are booted from her life and tl/
There are still some 'muckers' who want to rule the roost, they dictate what can be said/done.
Cults are all about control, they want you to think and feel as a group, if anyone steps out of that mindset they are punished and 'retrained'

Now if you read the AT over a year/18mths ago, CULT is the word that would have sprang to mind.

I don't doubt this sort of behaviour went on in the AT's.
But surely it wasn't the creation of Josie or John James - they were caught up in the madness as much as anyone.
It's just a product of crowds, fandom and the internet.

If there was a cult of Josie Gibson - it was a piss poor one.
The people who took part did so of their own volition and quit when they wanted to.
Even Nosni doesn't believe Josie brainwashed muckers in her cellar.

[sueloujo]

Originally Posted by GottaBeAdored

I suppose that lie is an improvement on "He's just out getting me a chocolate bar"

But why delete? I didn't see anyone being nasty. I saw disappointment in her but no nastiness. I would guess he is glad he does not have to use his brain to excess anymore..cos lying is hard work.

[Frillynix]

Originally Posted by cobaye22

I don't doubt this sort of behaviour went on in the AT's.
But surely it wasn't the creation of Josie or John James - they were caught up in the madness as much as anyone.
It's just a product of crowds, fandom and the internet.

If there was a cult of Josie Gibson - it was a piss poor one.
The people who took part did so of their own volition and quit when they wanted to.
Even Nosni doesn't believe Josie brainwashed muckers in her cellar.

I certainly dont think for a moment that it was the creation of Josie or John James, and the thought of her going "mwwwwwhhahahahahaha" in a celler is of course a tad over egging de pudding.

BUT - there is certainly a small crowd of folk who are, well a bit obsessive - not talking about the "old" days on the JJJ thread here, but folk who sat on twitter at 11.30 trying to get IP addresses of folk here! Just for debating about them (well mostly her as he legged it).................there were a few of em about - of course they did it of their own volition - and they probably enjoyed it so I guess "wheres the harm" eh - but it truly fascinates me - I know the JJJ thing isint the "only" celeb who folk attach themselves to, but as we are here, its them that are the focus of the conversation I guess.

[Mardymoo]

Originally Posted by cobaye22

I don't doubt this sort of behaviour went on in the AT's.
But surely it wasn't the creation of Josie or John James - they were caught up in the madness as much as anyone.
It's just a product of crowds, fandom and the internet.

If there was a cult of Josie Gibson - it was a piss poor one.
The people who took part did so of their own volition and quit when they wanted to.
Even Nosni doesn't believe Josie brainwashed muckers in her cellar.

I never said it was a creation of jjj,
A cult can be
a) Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
b) The object of such devotion.
and the AT back in its heydaydid fit that definition to a tee imo

[backtoreality]

Originally Posted by sueloujo

But why delete? I didn't see anyone being nasty. I saw disappointment in her but no nastiness. I would guess he is glad he does not have to use his brain to excess anymore..cos lying is hard work.

why did he delete ? Didnt like people being nasty? I saw nothing but the truth maybe he spends his time on here. So not being on twitter will make it all go away? He is wet as they come. here is why -

> She goes out and he doesnt know where
> He doesnt know who she is with or
> what time she will be back
> She goes on holiday with the girls and kisses a GIRL !
> He left at home to decorate the rented house which is full of her friends
>She belittles him every week in now magazine

LUKE WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE HANG ON I THINK HE HAS !

[Nosnikrapl]

Originally Posted by backtoreality

why did he delete ? Didnt like people being nasty? I saw nothing but the truth maybe he spends his time on here. So not being on twitter will make it all go away? He is wet as they come. here is why -

> She goes out and he doesnt know where
> He doesnt know who she is with or
> what time she will be back
> She goes on holiday with the girls and kisses a GIRL !
> He left at home to decorate the rented house which is full of her friends
>She belittles him every week in now magazine

LUKE WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE HANG ON I THINK HE HAS !

Honestly - it is just made up stuff for a column to earn a few bob. I don't know about waking up more like contract coming to and end. Folks really aren't interested in this Lukey stuff (just look at the AT threads) so she has to bring it to an end & come up with something else to flog.

[Nosnikrapl]

Originally Posted by Mardymoo

I never said it was a creation of jjj,
A cult can be
a) Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
b) The object of such devotion.
and the AT back in its heydaydid fit that definition to a tee imo

Group think operated during BB which developed into a cult in the months afterwards. As for the Joint AT now -
Seems to be a few folks chatting about life & quite often to themselves.

[kfb]

Originally Posted by Nosnikrapl

Honestly - it is just made up stuff for a column to earn a few bob. I don't know about waking up more like contract coming to and end. Folks really aren't interested in this Lukey stuff (just look at the AT threads) so she has to bring it to an end & come up with something else to flog.

Ah, but Josie has reassured everyone that her column is honest. Honest, guv!

[muggins14]

Originally Posted by kfb

Ah, but Josie has reassured everyone that her column is honest. Honest, guv!

Well I believe it. Every. Single. Word.

It's hard typing with crossed fingers!

[Frillynix]

Just don't buy a used car from her - thats my advice for wot its worth

[herejohno]

Morning court ,think Jose would be good as second hand car salesman [full of waffle and untruths]. I would say Jose fans are like cults not the that religious or what not.Reasons they obsessed with a bb relationship how many parts have JJJ appreciation threads.How many meet and greets,people following her to tv appearances. I am a member of a cult to this thread we were the people who believed it was all bollockony [although not proved 100% yet].Hate of this thread jog on.Colleen out tonite.

[herejohno]

Definition of cult, veneration of someone.Admirers of a person.

[Nosnikrapl]

Originally Posted by herejohno

Definition of cult, veneration of someone.Admirers of a person.

Exactly. Not sure why this is even in dispute. As you say the sheer size of the JJJ thread distinquishes from all that have gone before in terms of cult.

[kfb]

Originally Posted by Nosnikrapl

Exactly. Not sure why this is even in dispute. As you say the sheer size of the JJJ thread distinquishes from all that have gone before in terms of cult.

So are you saying that every single AT on DS is a 'cult'?
Or every single fan page or fan website or fan blog?
That any group of people who gather together in one place - cyber or otherwise - because they have a common interest constitute a 'cult'.
I don't think most people would agree with you on that.

The only reason the JJJAT is that big is because, as was pointed out in CT many moons ago, if you took out all the everyday conversations that went on in there that had nothing whatsoever to do with JJJ or John or Josie separately, it would probably be about a quarter or even less of its length - roughly the size of a lot of other ATs.
It's because the people who belong to it have become friends and use it as any other chat forum where friends gather together. Some friendship groups have left the JJJAT and use other means of staying together. Some are newly formed over the past year or so. As has been explained here before, most of the contributors to the JJJAT were people who had never used a chat forum before. We discovered another way of making friends apart from the usual routes and realising that some of us had other things in common which keep us together now.

I don't think the JJJAT is a cult. A cult in my mind involves some kind of brainwashing and not just admiration, but obsession to the point of blocking everything else out of your life. Yes, maybe there were a few examples of that, and the one that's frequently quoted here about someone carrying on posting rather than seeing to a baby, shocked many JJJATers at the time, as much as it did people here.

A lot of us talked about being addicted to keeping up with the JJJAT but that was only because we'd never experienced anything like it before. The way I see it was that it was much the same as my and others' children keeping up with their mates on Facebook. Yes, there were a few posters who maybe fitted what might be called a 'cult' image, but most have left, given up on JJJ altogether and taken their interest elsewhere away from the JJJAT. Maybe they're carrying on their 'cult' somewhere else, for all I know. But the JJJAT is now just somewhere where a few friends gather to chat. And that's no cult.

I still do keep up with all the JJJ related threads including this one. Maybe I am addicted - addicted to keeping up with my friends, addicted to being involved on a chat forum, addicted to posting my views. But then that probably fits the description of about 99% of the people who post in DS.

[Frillynix]

Ok for research purposes only (the things I do for this court sighhhhh)

I went randomly into the jjj thread (round the 40 mark). I also had a look back when they were still in the house.

I saw folk posting their "testimony" on how they got involved in the JJJ phenomon when they got to 1000 2000 3000 posts etc.

I saw "group language" as in " h'exactly" "swimming in your ocean" "positive pollies" "negative nancies" and a lot of other examples, I only visited briefly but Im sure I could find numerous other examples

I saw folk who had a little signature at the bottom of their posts

Love John James
Love Josie
Love Auntie Kath

respect for Auntie Kath etc.............thats what I meant in my first post about the "little prayers" etc.

I saw folk posting that they hadnt slept during the series and up at all hours watching to see if there was something going to happen between them.

I saw folk saying their lives were on hold for the summer.

When someone posted something that went slightly "out of the main vibe of the thread" they were quickly corrected by a lot of other posters.............

I saw posts about this thread - and folk saying how "shocked an digusted they were to read it" This was followed up by others telling them "better not to go out there and read that horrid stuff"...........

When the event was arranged that JJJ were due to attend, the vibe was almost like that of a revival meeting.

Now Im not saying theres any harm in all that stuff, Im merely trying to outline my earlier opinion, and of course no one was brainwashed, and of course friends were made, and thats good................but there can be no doubt that there was also somewhat of a group think, a lot more than here, possibly because it was "appreciation only" - unlike here where you can debate openly.

My first post on the "cult" thing seems to have been taken to heart, and I didnt mean to imply that folk were brainwashed or daft in any way - merely how the "vibe" came across to me, as an outsider.

[augusta92]

Originally Posted by Frillynix

Ok for research purposes only (the things I do for this court sighhhhh)

I went randomly into the jjj thread (round the 40 mark). I also had a look back when they were still in the house.

I saw folk posting their "testimony" on how they got involved in the JJJ phenomon when they got to 1000 2000 3000 posts etc.

I saw "group language" as in " h'exactly" "swimming in your ocean" "positive pollies" "negative nancies" and a lot of other examples, I only visited briefly but Im sure I could find numerous other examples

I saw folk who had a little signature at the bottom of their posts

Love John James
Love Josie
Love Auntie Kath

respect for Auntie Kath etc.............thats what I meant in my first post about the "little prayers" etc.

I saw folk posting that they hadnt slept during the series and up at all hours watching to see if there was something going to happen between them.

I saw folk saying their lives were on hold for the summer.

When someone posted something that went slightly "out of the main vibe of the thread" they were quickly corrected by a lot of other posters.............

I saw posts about this thread - and folk saying how "shocked an digusted they were to read it" This was followed up by others telling them "better not to go out there and read that horrid stuff"...........

When the event was arranged that JJJ were due to attend, the vibe was almost like that of a revival meeting.

Now Im not saying theres any harm in all that stuff, Im merely trying to outline my earlier opinion, and of course no one was brainwashed, and of course friends were made, and thats good................but there can be no doubt that there was also somewhat of a group think, a lot more than here, possibly because it was "appreciation only" - unlike here where you can debate openly.

My first post on the "cult" thing seems to have been taken to heart, and I didnt mean to imply that folk were brainwashed or daft in any way - merely how the "vibe" came across to me, as an outsider.

I think I might go tits up now and vanish, Im boring the ferk out of ya all!

I can see what you mean....


i think this discussion is talking about different defintions and ways of thinking about cults.

and i think there are also a lot of perjorative associations with the idea of belonging to a cult....for instance i dont like the idea of me belonging to a cult, or being associated with a cult...cos it feels like the kind of thing i would avoid.


but i can recognise your description of obsessive posters.....going a bit overboard in their fandom for JJJ.
and getting so carried away with the idea of group think, that they lose the abilty to almost think clearly and rationally....

but i am aware this doesnt apply to everyone...who ever posted or who was interested in JJJ.....

and then i also looked on the tv pages ....and there are threads about specialist tv shows....that refer to them as cult shows....things like Sci Fi, Fantasy , Lost, or Game of thrones... and i spose shows like Dr Who or Star trek would almost fall into those kinds of categories...



so maybe my interpretation of what a cult is and what it entails is different to that of others on this thread.?


I never saw JJJ as a cult....at all, but can see how elements of the way fans behaved were...slightly obsessive and cult like....