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Old 23-05-2012, 18:46
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Isn't this supposed to be a creative industry full of `artists'?
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Old 23-05-2012, 18:52
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I tried to be diplomatic and say there has always been crap music but yeah im just fed up now i used to love the top forty but decent pop music is few and far between with only the odd exception even Calvin Harrries who once interesting has now just become generic chart fodder.
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Old 23-05-2012, 18:53
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Oh...I'll say my goodbyes now then. It was nice knowing you.

I know how you feel. Where I work they play Capital and the playlist seems to consist of around 12 songs. It's not fun listening. I'm sick of "club banger" style dancey-pop music.

The best thing to do is look outside of the charts. There is some great music out there, it just needs to be found. Grooveshark is a great place to start.

Happy listening.
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Old 23-05-2012, 19:13
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It's what's selling at the moment and makes sense to capitalise on the trend. It'll pass soon though.
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Old 23-05-2012, 19:25
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Maybe I'm just an old fart (at the tender age of 29) but I really don't understand the appeal of such 'music'.

Also, call me old fashioned but I think music should be created with proper instruments and new musicians should do their time in the trenches playing in local bars and clubs until they get discovered. We should go back to the days when bands would play a gig, load up a Transit and drive to the next gig. Music from that era is much better than now.
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Old 23-05-2012, 19:26
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I don't mind "club banger" music too much as I enjoy it and for me that's the main thing. I can see how it would annoy others though. I agree there's lots of good music outside the charts though, you just have to go looking for it.
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Old 23-05-2012, 19:31
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I've never seen the word generic used so much everywhere lately, especially on here. I'm now fairly convinced people use it to seem more intelligent than they actually are. But that's by the by.

Anyhoo, the majority of this stuff you're probably referring to is watered down pop shit, and nothing to do with what actually goes on in clubs, the more discerning kind anyway. And of course, it's pretty easy to ignore of you try. It rather sickens me to see Calvin Harris and David Guetta everywhere at times, but the fact is, they are pop stars masquerading as DJ's to appear cool, when actually they are sell out ******* who don't have any clue what's really going on in the actual club scene.

People like Chav Cole and Tulisa are nothing but talentless bandwagon jumpers who think they are so cool by making this 'faux dance' and wouldn't know a proper house tune if it bit them on their botoxed arses.

And please. Let's drop the term 'club banger'. It wasn't even cool to say that in 1998.
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Old 23-05-2012, 19:34
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None of this ' pop club banger music' is actualy played in clubs, well not good ones anyway. I just completly avoid the charts altogether. Try Grooveshark, Last Fm, Youtube etc.
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Old 23-05-2012, 19:39
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We should go back to the days when bands would play a gig, load up a Transit and drive to the next gig. Music from that era is much better than now.

But that is there too, if you want to find it. But it's easier to moan on here I suppose. People have moaned about the state of music since Adam and Eve went jiving.

A certain brand of faux dance pop may be all around at the moment (there certainly IS NOT an any proper dance music in the charts of any kind)

Just ignore the charts and anything you want is out there somewhere. It's 2012, not 1962.

Bashing music because it's not made on a banjo, or whatever, is frankly ridiculous. Things change, and electronics have been used one way or another since the 60's. I love electronic music,but don't feel the need to put *groan* 'real music' down at every opportunity.
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Old 23-05-2012, 19:49
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I've never seen the word generic used so much everywhere lately, especially on here. I'm now fairly convinced people use it to seem more intelligent than they actually are. But that's by the by.

Anyhoo, the majority of this stuff you're probably referring to is watered down pop shit, and nothing to do with what actually goes on in clubs, the more discerning kind anyway. And of course, it's pretty easy to ignore of you try. It rather sickens me to see Calvin Harris and David Guetta everywhere at times, but the fact is, they are pop stars masquerading as DJ's to appear cool, when actually they are sell out ******* who don't have any clue what's really going on in the actual club scene.

People like Chav Cole and Tulisa are nothing but talentless bandwagon jumpers who think they are so cool by making this 'faux dance' and wouldn't know a proper house tune if it bit them on their botoxed arses.

And please. Let's drop the term 'club banger'. It wasn't even cool to say that in 1998.
Or perhaps it just happens to be generic there has always been crap music of that im aware but more so than ever i have noticed it turn on the radio and you cannot tell one song from the other its gotten ridiculous.
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Old 23-05-2012, 19:54
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Or perhaps it just happens to be generic there has always been crap music of that im aware but more so than ever i have noticed it turn on the radio and you cannot tell one song from the other its gotten ridiculous.
If you are listening to commercial radio, or following what's in the charts, you deserve all you get frankly. Try being a little less lazy, and if you're a music fan, search for something else.
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Old 23-05-2012, 19:57
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I've never seen the word generic used so much everywhere lately, especially on here. I'm now fairly convinced people use it to seem more intelligent than they actually are. But that's by the by.
The reason you hear the word "generic" so much, is because there is SO MUCH generic music around.

It's ****ing awful. I've also never used the word generic so much. I don't use it to sound clever. It's a very basic word, but it describes literally about 200% of what gets played on the radio now. It's everywhere. That's why I use the word so much. In 2003 I only had to complain about the occasional song being generic, but now there's just so much.

Every song is the same. European "dance" producers (e.g. David Guetta, Benny Benassi, Calvin Haris, DJ Fresh, Afrojack, RedOne, Swedish House Mafia, etc.), and black RnB/hip hop artists (e.g. Akon, Kelly Rowland, Rihanna, Ludacris, Taio Cruz, Usher, Ne-Yo, Estelle, Kid Cudi, Chris Brown, Nicki Minaj, Flo Rida, Lil Wayne, Kelis, Dizzee Rascal, Rita Ora, Tinie Tempah, Sean Kingston, Busta Rhymes, Jason Derulo, Snoop Dogg, etc, etc, etc.) singing/rapping on them.

I cannot stand this anymore. I really can't. I'm sick of it. I love RnB music, and it's just disappeared because all the RnB artists think they're from Sweden or somewhere.

I used to like this sort of music. Like in the middle of the 00's when there was like 5-10 in the charts every week it was fine, but last year there were some weeks with over 30 of them (in the summer), and it was just too much.

It needs to go. I hate it. In 2006 these dance songs were fresh and exciting. In 2008 they all started sounding the same. In 2012, THEY'RE STILL HERE, and everybody hates them. It's horrible.

And just fyi, I'm pretty sure everybody on this forum listens to lots of music outside the charts. Just because we're complaining about chart music, it doesn't mean that's all we listen to. As a fan of hip hop, I HAVE to listen to music outside of the charts, because there's not exactly much hip hop in the charts for me to listen to is there.
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Old 23-05-2012, 20:01
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I agree. Can't wait for this chapter of pop music to end.
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Old 23-05-2012, 20:06
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The reason you hear the word "generic" so much, is because there is SO MUCH generic music around.

It's ****ing awful. I've also never used the word generic so much. I don't use it to sound clever. It's a very basic word, but it describes literally about 200% of what gets played on the radio now. It's everywhere. That's why I use the word so much. In 2003 I only had to complain about the occasional song being generic, but now there's just so much.

Every song is the same. European "dance" producers (e.g. David Guetta, Benny Benassi, Calvin Haris, DJ Fresh, Afrojack, RedOne, Swedish House Mafia, etc.), and black RnB/hip hop artists (e.g. Akon, Kelly Rowland, Rihanna, Ludacris, Taio Cruz, Usher, Ne-Yo, Estelle, Kid Cudi, Chris Brown, Nicki Minaj, Flo Rida, Lil Wayne, Kelis, Dizzee Rascal, Rita Ora, Tinie Tempah, Sean Kingston, Busta Rhymes, Jason Derulo, Snoop Dogg, etc, etc, etc.) singing/rapping on them.

I cannot stand this anymore. I really can't. I'm sick of it. I love RnB music, and it's just disappeared because all the RnB artists think they're from Sweden or somewhere.

I used to like this sort of music. Like in the middle of the 00's when there was like 5-10 in the charts every week it was fine, but last year there were some weeks with over 30 of them (in the summer), and it was just too much.

It needs to go. I hate it. In 2006 these dance songs were fresh and exciting. In 2008 they all started sounding the same. In 2012, THEY'RE STILL HERE, and everybody hates them. It's horrible.

And just fyi, I'm pretty sure everybody on this forum listens to lots of music outside the charts. Just because we're complaining about chart music, it doesn't mean that's all we listen to.
Well there you go, I hate R&B, and very glad it's vanished. I hope the dreadful form it took in the 90's and 00's never returns. Although of course, it is still around, somewhere. Most music is.
And course, just because YOU think something is rubbish, doesn't mean it is. And I include myself in that. We all have a bit musical snobbery in us. And it's displayed on these forums, day in, day out.

And seriously, anyone who listens to Crapital or the like, you should only ever expect to hear the same 5 songs on a loop because it appears to be the law. It just so happens they all seem to be by David fecking Guetta. Who 's name is absolute mud in most dance musis circles anyway. He's trashed the image of the genre, and then some.
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Old 23-05-2012, 20:10
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I hope original R n B (rhythm n blues) returns. Now that is music.
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Old 23-05-2012, 20:13
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And one more point...saying David Guetta is dance music nowadays is akin to saying McFly are a Rock band, just because they play in a band. They're clearly not. If you are not seriously into a genre, you won't understand the nuances and substance of it.

It depresses me that people think someone like Afrojack or Calvin Harris are the bastions of dance music when all they are, are the commercial bastardization of it.

So in a way, I agree, this horrible r&b/dance hybrid is pretty horrible, and hope it does soon. I hate the fact it's equated with the dance scene, when it has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Rant over.
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Old 23-05-2012, 20:32
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And one more point...saying David Guetta is dance music nowadays is akin to saying McFly are a Rock band, just because they play in a band. They're clearly not. If you are not seriously into a genre, you won't understand the nuances and substance of it.

It depresses me that people think someone like Afrojack or Calvin Harris are the bastions of dance music when all they are, are the commercial bastardization of it.

So in a way, I agree, this horrible r&b/dance hybrid is pretty horrible, and hope it does soon. I hate the fact it's equated with the dance scene, when it has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Rant over.
It's not an RnB/dance hybrid at all. These songs have NOTHING to do with RnB at all. They have qualities of dance music in, but nothing RnB about them at all. RnB is beautiful, soulful, emotional music. This europop music that dominates the world at the moment isn't. And RnB songs don't have tempos of 130 beats per minute.

They're all sang by RnB singers, but the songs themselves have nothing in common with RnB at all (mostly, apart from a few such as OMG by Usher).

Also, nobody in this thread said they think Calvin Harris and Afrojack are the bastions of dance music at all. Stop taking words out of people's mouths please.
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Old 23-05-2012, 20:40
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I RnB is beautiful, soulful, emotional music.
That's the funniest thing I've read..well..today at least. Thanks for that!
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Old 23-05-2012, 20:43
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I'm pretty sure being black is the sole qualifier of being R&B nowadays.
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Old 23-05-2012, 20:47
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'Most' R&B of the last 20 years is pretty hideous and has moved so far away from it's roots as to be something else entirely. It's a real shame actually that the name has been hijacked.
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Old 23-05-2012, 20:52
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I'm pretty sure being black is the sole qualifier of being R&B nowadays.
Yeah, I think it is sometimes. Sometimes I see RnB compilation albums, and they're full of dance songs. It's so silly.

I think part of them problem is that in the mid-00's people easily got away with referring to crunk as RnB, and as crunk has slowly morphed into electropop (I'm talking in the mainstream music scene obviously, real crunk still exists), people have kept calling it RnB. Those artists now release the same type of music as Britney Spears and Katy Perry, so they're in no way RnB.
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Old 23-05-2012, 21:39
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'Most' R&B of the last 20 years is pretty hideous and has moved so far away from it's roots as to be something else entirely. It's a real shame actually that the name has been hijacked.
There's a difference between contemporary r&b and rythm and blues. A BIG difference. And most of the r&b wasn't that bad. It still has its roots, but there isn't much r&b dominating now.
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Old 23-05-2012, 22:06
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If you are listening to commercial radio, or following what's in the charts, you deserve all you get frankly. Try being a little less lazy, and if you're a music fan, search for something else.
Excuse me i listen to all and everything and am not afraid to go out of my way to look for new music but i take issue with turning on the radio and being met with the same song just slightly altered beat lyrics and female performer so excuse me for having an opinion.
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Old 23-05-2012, 22:11
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i take issue with turning on the radio and being met with the same song just slightly altered beat lyrics and female performer so excuse me for having an opinion.
You sound like my Gran. Bless!
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Old 23-05-2012, 22:14
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There are artists out there who do 'Proper R&B' but no one ever buys their music and it flops. It is out there if you just look for it.
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