Mores the pity, I would like him to be called Lord Sir Alan Sugar ....... quite the mouthful .....
Does a Lord supercede a Sir ........ I assume you cant use both?
In the case of honours a peerage is superior to a knighthood but as is regularly the case these days Sugar was appointed as a peer so that he could work with the last Labour government ,he wasn't honoured like he was when he was given his knighthood........similarly Baroness Warsi wasn't honoured with a peerage like Thatcher was,she was appointed as a working peer....... Relatively new phenomenon.
Appointed peers are doing a job,honoured peers are so honoured after a distinguished career.
Sebastian Coe is an interesting example......he only became a peer after he was rejected as an MP at the General Election....it was pure old pals act like it used to be for years in politics..........Failed MP=Given a peerage......Uniquely Coe
was given a knighthood for his Olympic organising achievements AFTER his peerage.
No more impressed with Sugar appearing to take the title nonsense so seriously than I am with wives of titled people using so called courtesy titles when they have done nothing to deserve them.................
Appointed peers are doing a job,honoured peers are so honoured after a distinguished career.
Sebastian Coe is an interesting example......he only became a peer after he was rejected as an MP at the General Election....it was pure old pals act like it used to be for years in politics..........Failed MP=Given a peerage......Uniquely Coe
was given a knighthood for his Olympic organising achievements AFTER his peerage.
No more impressed with Sugar appearing to take the title nonsense so seriously than I am with wives of titled people using so called courtesy titles when they have done nothing to deserve them.................
"Lord" is not strictly a title, but a generic term like "peer" for all ranks of the nobility."House of Lords" is actually a colloquial term - the correct name for the second chamber is the House Of Peers.
Any peer, even a life peer, still exceeds a knight in rank. A knight isn't a peer at all but was originally given rank and land (his "fee") in return for military service.
The order of the peerage goes something like, Dukes, Marquesses, Earls (Counts on the continent) Viscounts, Barons. Life peers like Sugar are almost always Barons.
Any peer, even a life peer, still exceeds a knight in rank. A knight isn't a peer at all but was originally given rank and land (his "fee") in return for military service.
The order of the peerage goes something like, Dukes, Marquesses, Earls (Counts on the continent) Viscounts, Barons. Life peers like Sugar are almost always Barons.
Originally Posted by Malik24:
“I call him neither.
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“I call him neither.
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Neither do I, why should we have to call them Lord for?! Or sir?
It got on my nerves as well and it made me cringe that time Sugar (
) sent them on a prize and meet Richard Branson in the process and imo you could tell that Sugar has so bought into all this titles things as if he was a King living centuries ago when he said "and give my regards to Sir Richard"! 
I'm amazed none of the didn't reply with "Yes Your Majesty"!
