[Sniffle774]

Originally Posted by Stone_Jones

Epic would cost 150 - 200 or more dollars. They didn't have that amount. It's not financed by a major US studio. The first film had a huge budget for its time but even that could only create a few roads. Judge Dredd is so high concept sci-fi. If you did a proper version it would cost millions - Avatar/Star Wars prequels type budget and scale - and if it flopped that would kill off the character for another 20 or more years!

Absolutely. Looks like the makers are playing a shrewd move here.

[NinjyBear]

It looks good for a film with such a small budget. If it does well I'm sure it will lead to a bigger, better sequel.

[CJClarke]

Looks pretty good, although i'd echo the thoughts abut it seemingly having a similar plot to The Raid (which is an awesome film by the way). I've seen people commenting negatively about Dredd's suit on other sites, but it looked fine to me Guess you can never please fanboys, they should just be thankful that they're getting a new Judge Dredd film at all after the 1995 mess!

[Matt D]

Production on Dredd started before The Raid...

[Stone_Jones]

It’s funny that people keep mentioning The Raid (myself included) when about about one man and his dog have seen it! Its US box office gross:

The Raid: Redemption (2012) - Box Office Mojo:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=raid.htm

A tiny 4 million dollars. Yep, 4. Just 4! It made a tiny $213,785 on its opening weekend.

If 99.9 percent of US theatrical release films made that sort of box office it would equal epic box office flop. Box Office Mojo doesn’t even have the stats for its foreign (outside US) gross. I don't know much it cost to make but 4 million US gross is poor. Hardly anyone in America has seen The Raid. It will no have no bearing on the success of Dredd. Thank Grud The Raid wasn’t a huge blockbuster!

I think some of the shots in the trailer look amazing - much better than the leaked images suggested - so fingers crossed the final film delivers...

[CJClarke]

Originally Posted by Stone_Jones

It’s funny that people keep mentioning The Raid (myself included) when about about one man and his dog have seen it! Its US box office gross:

The Raid: Redemption (2012) - Box Office Mojo:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=raid.htm

A tiny 4 million dollars. Yep, 4. Just 4! It made a tiny $213,785 on its opening weekend.

If 99.9 percent of US theatrical release films made that sort of box office it would equal epic box office flop. Box Office Mojo doesn’t even have the stats for its foreign (outside US) gross. I don't know much it cost to make but 4 million US gross is poor. Hardly anyone in America has seen The Raid. It will no have no bearing on the success of Dredd. Thank Grud The Raid wasn’t a huge blockbuster!

I think some of the shots in the trailer look amazing - much better than the leaked images suggested - so fingers crossed the final film delivers...

The Raid was only a Limited release in the US, so it's box office takings are actually fairly decent for a foreign language film. I'm sure Dredd will be sufficiently different (i didn't see any Judge's in The Raid), but when we mention The Raid we're just stating that it does seem to have a similar plot, purely by coincidence i'm sure. I'm not saying that's a negative thing though, if Dredd is anywhere near as good as The Raid was then we'll hopefully be in for a treat.

[zwixxx]

Originally Posted by CJClarke

... i didn't see any Judge's in The Raid),

also didn't see any ricochet rounds either.

( as for the suit, I don't class myself as a JD fanbody but from what I saw it just looks like they didn't put any effort into its design whatsoever. - hope to be proved wrong. )

The Raid <- awesome, and methinks it'll be even awesomer when I see it again, only this time with subtitles.

[Matt D]

Originally Posted by CJClarke

Looks pretty good, although i'd echo the thoughts abut it seemingly having a similar plot to The Raid (which is an awesome film by the way)

Originally Posted by CJClarke

but when we mention The Raid we're just stating that it does seem to have a similar plot, purely by coincidence i'm sure. I'm not saying that's a negative thing though, if Dredd is anywhere near as good as The Raid was then we'll hopefully be in for a treat.

If anything, you could say that The Raid has a similar plot to Dredd, rather than Dredd has a similar plot to The Raid.

Dredd was written before The Raid, it started filming before The Raid.

[MrSuper]

The storyline is purely coincidental and you can't really compare it to The Raid anyway cos TR is a pure martial arts flick which this is not. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

[peon]

dear me, that makes Stallone's version look like an epic. Mega City looks awful and bland, at least the first version got that right, buildings all packed in on top of one another. those lawmasters look rubbish, the uniform looks crap. the plot comes across as a bit dull too. will give this one a miss i think.

[Stone_Jones]

Here is the Raid trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=My02wp9fsho

I think the Dredd trailer looks way cooler. The stuff with Ma-Ma and her gang firing the cannon across the block, Dredd shooting back, seriously cool. The Raid trailer is mostly hand-to-hand combat. Dredd features Judges on lawmasters too.

The basic premises of the films are similar but the films look very different. And Die Hard had a hero fighting a bad guy and his team inside a highrise building and that was made in 1988!

If the overall feel of Dredd is like the comic strip I think most people - fans and non-fans of the comic character - will not see it as a Raid copy but Alex Garland - the writer of the Dredd sceeenplay - did take a risk going with a Die Hard type storyline.

[Straker]

Helmet still looks wrong - Too slavishly following the comic. Poster looks very cool. John Wagner has praised the flick which is one of the main reasons I still hold out hope for this even though all the signs are not good.

A word in slight defence of the Stallone Dredd movie. I still maintain that movie had one of the best trailers I’ve seen. If the movie had been as good as the trailer we would have had a string of sequels by now.

[peon]

Originally Posted by Straker

A word in slight defence of the Stallone Dredd movie. I still maintain that movie had one of the best trailers I’ve seen. If the movie had been as good as the trailer we would have had a string of sequels by now.

i knew you'd say that

[Rorschach]

Originally Posted by Straker

Helmet still looks wrong

Not as wrong as Dredd allowing his Rookie to go helmetless...but I assume she will lose her helmet in the course of the film

[SilverCrown]

Originally Posted by peon

dear me, that makes Stallone's version look like an epic. Mega City looks awful and bland, at least the first version got that right, buildings all packed in on top of one another. those lawmasters look rubbish, the uniform looks crap. the plot comes across as a bit dull too. will give this one a miss i think.

Agreed. What's up with his voice as well? He's taken a page out of the new Batman there.

[Stone_Jones]

Not as wrong as Dredd allowing his Rookie to go helmetless.

Er.. big time wrong. Anderson is a psi Judge (or rookie in this film). In 2000AD's Judge Dredd and Judge Anderson strips (she has her own series) she rarely wears a helmet:

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=is....0.mfY1LueGyM8

Not one drawing of her with a helmet on. She has put it on when she's on her bike but she never wears one when walking about, fighting crime, arresting perps etc. This is a classic poster taken from 2000AD:

http://www.scificool.com/images/2010...a-anderson.jpg

That's how she looks. Sexy and tough!

Helmet still looks wrong - Too slavishly following the comic

That makes no sense. If it follows the comic book look it must be right because the comic book version is how the helmet is meant to look. Your comment makes no sense. And yes, it is a perfect representation of 2000AD's Judge Dredd helmet. 100 percent detail and design.

[Straker]

Originally Posted by Stone_Jones

That makes no sense. If it follows the comic book look it must be right because the comic book version is how the helmet is meant to look. Your comment makes no sense. And yes, it is a perfect representation of 2000AD's Judge Dredd helmet. 100 percent detail and design.

Err, yes it does make sense. You can’t just do a literal translation from a 2D drawing (that has had all manner of different variations since it came out in 1977 so there is no real definitive Dredd helmet) and expect to put it on an actor with normal features and have it look right. If Urban had Dredd’s exaggerated chin and permanent downturned mouth then a slavish translation of the helmet would work. But being as no human has Dredd’s features then just sticking a comic book helmet on a normal human isn’t going to look right. They realised they had to adapt the rest of his uniform quite drastically to make it acceptable and believable but they’ve not taken the same approach with the helmet. All it really needs IMO is for some detailing in the badge area and the sides to be more tapered, fitting more closely to his jawline. As it stands it looks like it’s flimsy and could be easily knocked off.

[doom&gloom]

Originally Posted by SilverCrown

Agreed. What's up with his voice as well? He's taken a page out of the new Batman there.

Plus he said "I am the Law" wrong, as well all know you should say the word law like you're vomiting it "laawweeuugghhh".

[zwixxx]

Just noticed the R rating <- big rock on to that, no wussy Die Hard 4 bloodless "why-oh-why-oh-why did they do THAT"ness

[Stone_Jones]

The storyline of Dredd is 100 percent legitimate and faithful to the comic strip version.

John Wagner - co-creator of and best writer of Judge Dredd - wrote a story like this. It was called Escape from Kurt Russell Block. Dredd goes into Kurt Russell block to sort out the gang problem. He takes one of the perps alive and has to shoot his way out of the block. The basics of the story are almost the same as this film, the action scenes are more or less identical, and that story was written 17 years ago in 1995. The story was sort of a spoof of Escape From New York but set in Dredd's world, in a block.

So there you go, the new Dredd film is faithful to the source material even if does remind people of Die Hard or The Raid or Escape From New York. You'll get the Escape From New York reference when you see the film, it's kind of obvious! I read the leaked screenplay of Dredd, didn't like it much, but given that it is faithful to a previous Dredd story it's a legitimate way to do a Dredd film.

Judge Dredd. Escape From Kurt Russell 2 episodes (Progs 938 to 939) - 1995. One of the 2000AD covers:

http://www.2000ad.org/functions/cove...0ad&choice=939

This is a faithful Judge Dredd film or be it one with strong references to other action films. Putting that to one side, I did enjoy the trailer. Looked quite cool.

By the way, Straker, the helmet is 100 percent identical to the comic strip version. You, sir, are incorrect!

[Straker]

Originally Posted by Stone_Jones

By the way, Straker, the helmet is 100 percent identical to the comic strip version.

Wrong, because the helmet in the comic changes all the time (depending on the artist drawing it) and furthermore it fits on a head, Dredd’s, that has been flattened. If it were anatomically correct the helmet would be taller to allow for the top of Dredd’s head but most of the artists topslice his head to allow for the exaggerated chin and to make a more aesthetically pleasing image. Dredd of the comic does not have human proportions whereas Urban obviously does. Elongating and tapering the bottom edges of the movie helmet slightly would help it stop looking like it’s balanced precariously on the top of his head because it’s visually topheavy to allow for real human proportions.

Nobody knows more about Dredd and 2000ad than me so you should stop wasting your time telling me I’m wrong!

[floopy123]

Dredd trailer has just reached 1 million Youtube views. Took four days to get to that figure. Impressive!

[Stone_Jones]

Regarding the trailer, I made the vehicles hover.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Vs42qamWg

It's not expensive to do and I didn't use any fancy CGI equipment. If I can do that demo then the filmmakers - with 45 million dollars! - can do it. Not all the vehicles need to hover but a few would make Mega-City 1 look more sci-fi. The filmmakers don't have much vision.

[doom&gloom]

Originally Posted by Stone_Jones

The basic premises of the films are similar but the films look very different. And Die Hard had a hero fighting a bad guy and his team inside a highrise building and that was made in 1988!

Batman did it in 1974, criminals took over Wayne Enterprises and took everyone hostage, Bruce had to change into Batman and take the bad guys out one by one, when I first saw Die Hard it reminded me of that story a lot, the Metal Men weren't in Die Hard though, that was the major difference.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Brave_and_the_Bold_Vol_1_113

[zwixxx]

^maybe there's a story-reason for no many flying cars. Do we know WHEN the movie is set - is it even set within the comic book history, and could kinda be taken as canon (that's the right phrase, right). Or do we have JD at the start of his career and ... not sure what I'm trying to say here.