[cyrilandshirley]

Originally Posted by lulu g

His short-sighted Mum. This is a job for Jeremy Kyle and The Genius, Graham.

Maybe Minty was a real looker back in the day.

But if Dodger ever hits the pies, could be a taste of things to come.

Poor Minty. He's just always going to be Minty, now.

[Helenlou81]

Originally Posted by eff_x

The only thing that makes me cautious about that theory is the fact Brendan's off-screen in July and doing his own thing in Later. Who knows; I exhaust myself speculating!

I wouldnt worry about that so much, whatever Emmett is filming today is likely to be July stuff. he wont be around fully but Im sure they will have him in some scenes during that time. Later will take probably until the end of June to film so its possible after that he could film stuff to be slotted in. There will def be build up for the Bradys to later.

[Helenlou81]

Originally Posted by tezzabobs

It's not really messy though if Ste goes in there, gets it signed, and goes back to Doug.

That sounds pretty simple and straightforward to me.

Not really because its one more hurdle Stendan have to overcome, the fact Brendan will trust Ste even less. Its simple for Stug but not for Stendan because it throws them even further apart and makes them even messier.

[lulu g]

Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley

Maybe Minty was a real looker back in the day.

But if Dodger ever hits the pies, could be a taste of things to come.

Poor Minty. He's just always going to be Minty, now.

Uh-huh.

Go easy on the paninis, Dodger!

Yes, like Barry From EastEnders.

[LemonadeMan]

Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley

Maybe Minty was a real looker back in the day.

But if Dodger ever hits the pies, could be a taste of things to come.

Poor Minty. He's just always going to be Minty, now.

*inserts picture of full frontal Minty*

[tezzabobs]

Originally Posted by Helenlou81

Not really because its one more hurdle Stendan have to overcome, the fact Brendan will trust Ste even less. Its simple for Stug but not for Stendan because it throws them even further apart and makes them even messier.

I dunno. I suppose we all have different ideas of what is going to happen, when it was done, etc, so we might just have to wait and see.

[cyrilandshirley]

Originally Posted by lulu g

Uh-huh.

Go easy on the paninis, Dodger!

Yes, like Barry From EastEnders.

Poor Barry.

Originally Posted by LemonadeMan

*inserts picture of full frontal Minty*

I'll pass, thanks.

[LemonadeMan]

Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley

I'll pass, thanks.

You don't know what you're missing.

It was an enlightening Comic Relief and no mistake.

[Helenlou81]

Originally Posted by tezzabobs

I dunno. I suppose we all have different ideas of what is going to happen, when it was done, etc, so we might just have to wait and see.

Totally. The one thing that I need to know really is what Brendan comes out of next week believing. Does he believe that Ste loves him or not? or does he just feel duped and that Ste has moved on? That could actually go part way into how things will go next. I guess it comes down to how convincing Ste is when he goes back to Doug. Because surely even that would knock Brendan for six.

I dont want to continue to see Brendan chase Ste if Ste has made it completely clear they are done for good

The way Kieron talks about everyone being happy during the week until the end sort of says one group wont be happy come the end and to be honest I can sort of see why hes making it sound genuine for Brendan if they are going to throw the curveball at the end that Ste was just playing him.

[tezzabobs]

I don't really think anyone is going to be happy by the end of next week.

I don't think Stug fans will be, and I don't think we will be.

I'm not sure how neither lot of fans can be unhappy but I think HOs will manage it.

[eff_x]

Originally Posted by Helenlou81

Not really because its one more hurdle Stendan have to overcome, the fact Brendan will trust Ste even less. Its simple for Stug but not for Stendan because it throws them even further apart and makes them even messier.

See, I hope above anything else that this isn't PURELY to make things more messy and more complicated for Stendan. It doesn't NEED to get messier or more complicated. Same as it didn't need that January punch; it's f*cked-up enough as it is!!

I need this to be a turning-point; something that CHANGES things for them, rather than makes things more muddled and confusing and hopeless.

I don't mind it being messy because of feelings and contracts and affairs or something like that. But not because of more lies, deceit or violence. There's enough of that now to keep them apart forever.

I need this to force them to interact more, not give them more reason to stay apart.

[fredcat]

Originally Posted by tezzabobs

I don't really think anyone is going to be happy by the end of next week.

I don't think Stug fans will be, and I don't think we will be.

I'm not sure how neither lot of fans can be unhappy but I think HOs will manage it.

Ste will move to Tibet and become a monk

[lulu g]

Originally Posted by Helenlou81

Totally. The one thing that I need to know really is what Brendan comes out of next week believing. Does he believe that Ste loves him or not? or does he just feel duped and that Ste has moved on? That could actually go part way into how things will go next. I guess it comes down to how convincing Ste is when he goes back to Doug. Because surely even that would knock Brendan for six.

I dont want to continue to see Brendan chase Ste if Ste has made it completely clear they are done for good

The way Kieron talks about everyone being happy during the week until the end sort of says one group wont be happy come the end and to be honest I can sort of see why hes making it sound genuine for Brendan if they are going to throw the curveball at the end that Ste was just playing him.

BIB - That's how I feel too. Brendan is a proud man and I don't want to see him reduced to that.

If I were a Ste fan, I would not be happy about the idea of him selling himself for £80,000 pieces of silver.

Not sure how Doug fans are going to end up unhappy, unless it's made clear to us the viewers that Ste is just settling for second best in Doug,

[tezzabobs]

As much as I hate Brendan meddling sometimes, I'd be really annoyed if he just left them to it.

That's not who Brendan is.


ETA: I don't think Ste is selling himself, and I don't think it's about the money.

It's about Brendan's control and hold over Ste, and Ste wants out of it. He never wanted Brendan's money in the first place, so it's not really about that at all.

[Helenlou81]

Originally Posted by eff_x

See, I hope above anything else that this isn't PURELY to make things more messy and more complicated for Stendan. It doesn't NEED to get messier or more complicated. Same as it didn't need that January punch; it's f*cked-up enough as it is!!

I need this to be a turning-point; something that CHANGES things for them, rather than makes things more muddled and confusing and hopeless.

I don't mind it being messy because of feelings and contracts and affairs or something like that. But not because of more lies, deceit or violence. There's enough of that now to keep them apart forever.

I need this to force them to interact more, not give them more reason to stay apart.

Oh it doesnt need to be any messier but that wont stop them making it any messier

See I just dont see any of that happening. They will always keep them interacting and we know they will but I really cant see anything changing between them until at least after later. Seems the minute HO made the decision to have the Brady stuff in later that any Brendan changes would not happen until after that.

At least not with Ste with Doug and seemingly all happy hugging him at the end of the week in a big public display of affection

[LemonadeMan]

Originally Posted by fredcat

Ste will move to Tibet and become a monk

He'd work those robes.

Originally Posted by tezzabobs

As much as I hate Brendan meddling sometimes, I'd be really annoyed if he just left them to it.

That's not who Brendan is.

I agree.

Even if he's only popping up to make digs/interfere, that's Brendan.

[tezzabobs]

Originally Posted by LemonadeMan

I agree.

Even if he's only popping up to make digs/interfere, that's Brendan.

Yep, even though I hated the Noah stuff, I got it because that's who Brendan is, and stopping him from interfering is just totally ignoring his character and who he's always been, and they've done that enough recently.

[Helenlou81]

Originally Posted by tezzabobs

As much as I hate Brendan meddling sometimes, I'd be really annoyed if he just left them to it.

That's not who Brendan is.


ETA: I don't think Ste is selling himself, and I don't think it's about the money.

It's about Brendan's control and hold over Ste, and Ste wants out of it. He never wanted Brendan's money in the first place, so it's not really about that at all.

See the thing I dont like about the money is if Ste is meant to be this independent person now then he should recognise that a debt is a debt. He shouldnt get out of the responsibility of having to pay that money back even if he didnt technically want the money, Doug took it, one way or another that partnership should pay it back. Hardly fair that they dont and Stug are quite happy with that.

I want him to show his face every now and then but not try and break them up, why should he continue to make an idiot out of himself and make Ste like him even less. He should stay away if thats what Ste wants Everyone else has been out of character here. may as well have Brendan doing it too

[kojan]

yeah, I don't see how this is ste selling himself, It's not his fault doug and brendan made this deal behind his back, which is why he wants out of it, If he was selling himself surely It would be more about money & business, where as kieron has made it pretty clear that He doesn't want Brendan to have that kind of control over him.

[tezzabobs]

But Ste didn't want the money. He didn't agree to it, and he didn't sign the contract.

It's nothing to do with him.

If someone should pay the money back, it's Doug. He made Ste agree to taking the money without even asking him, he just went and did it. Ste shouldn't have to pay it back and that's what I think about it. Not his problem. Brendan and Doug's.


ETA: And to be honest, if I didn't agree to take money from someone and they expected me to pay it back, I'd tell them to do one.

[LemonadeMan]

Yeah, frankly, I think Doug should pay Brendan back. Out of his own earnings.

Originally Posted by tezzabobs

Yep, even though I hated the Noah stuff, I got it because that's who Brendan is, and stopping him from interfering is just totally ignoring his character and who he's always been, and they've done that enough recently.

Mm, yes. Even if it's bantery scenes, or belittling Doug, or shoving a panini into someone's chest, it's very Brendan.

[Helenlou81]

Originally Posted by tezzabobs

But Ste didn't want the money. He didn't agree to it, and he didn't sign the contract.

It's nothing to do with him.

If someone should pay the money back, it's Doug. He made Ste agree to taking the money without even asking him, he just went and did it. Ste shouldn't have to pay it back and that's what I think about it. Not his problem. Brendan and Doug's.

Thats the problem I have with all this, Brendan never actually had any control over the deli or Ste, he had control over Doug but not the running of the deli so why shouldnt that money be repaid to him.

And Ste still pretty much has to live witht eh fact that without Brendan he wouldnt have that deli at all.

[kojan]

Yeah Doug should have thought sensibly and read the contract before even thinking about signing it. This is all about Brendan's need to control Ste, and It's worked cause he has this control at the moment, so I don't see how any of this is Ste's fault

[tezzabobs]

Originally Posted by Helenlou81

Thats the problem I have with all this, Brendan never actually had any control over the deli or Ste, he had control over Doug but not the running of the deli so why shouldnt that money be repaid to him.

And Ste still pretty much has to live witht eh fact that without Brendan he wouldnt have that deli at all.

The money should get paid back to him, but by Doug. Not by Ste. So if Ste wants the debt wiped, for himself, then I can see why. He didn't want Brendan's money, so why should he be in debt to Brendan when he didn't have a choice?

Ste said he'd rather fail than take Brendan's money, so I'm pretty sure he'd be fine with not having the deli if it meant he didn't take anything from Brendan.


ETA: If anyone is at fault, it's Brendan and Doug for going behind Ste's back.

[kojan]

Originally Posted by tezzabobs

The money should get paid back to him, but by Doug. Not by Ste. So if Ste wants the debt wiped, for himself, then I can see why. He didn't want Brendan's money, so why should he be in debt to Brendan when he didn't have a choice?

Ste said he'd rather fail than take Brendan's money, so I'm pretty sure he'd be fine with not having the deli if it meant he didn't take anything from Brendan.

Yeah I doubt Ste will be feeling Grateful about Brendan giving Doug the money for their business, especially If he thinks that Brendan is going to use it as a way to have a hold over them.