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Old 29-05-2012, 18:16   #1
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Aaron Cook - Taekwondo

Anyone else caught this story ? very very strange and tbh complete madness.

Hes European Number 1 but the 1 place in his weight catagory has been given to some no hoper not even inside the top 20 which you have to be to get a place on the team , Cook is clearly leagues above this other person so wtf is going on ?

Seems like some people dont want us having the best possible chance at medals at the Olympics ???? , i hope those selectors get sacked at the very minimum.
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Old 29-05-2012, 19:31   #2
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Anyone else caught this story ? very very strange and tbh complete madness.

Hes European Number 1 but the 1 place in his weight catagory has been given to some no hoper not even inside the top 20 which you have to be to get a place on the team , Cook is clearly leagues above this other person so wtf is going on ?

Seems like some people dont want us having the best possible chance at medals at the Olympics ???? , i hope those selectors get sacked at the very minimum.
World Taekwondo rankings are updated on Friday when he will be confirmed as World Number 1.
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Old 29-05-2012, 19:33   #3
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The guy supposed to have taken his place in the team is actually a European champion himself (and younger) BUT at a difference "weight" (not sure of the word!)

Dose seem strange though...maybe there is an issue with him regarding disclipline we haven't heard about?
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Old 29-05-2012, 22:09   #4
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World Taekwondo rankings are updated on Friday when he will be confirmed as World Number 1.
If its possible that makes it even more mad.
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Old 29-05-2012, 22:11   #5
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The guy supposed to have taken his place in the team is actually a European champion himself (and younger) BUT at a difference "weight" (not sure of the word!)

Dose seem strange though...maybe there is an issue with him regarding disclipline we haven't heard about?
From what i've read there doesn't seem any issues regarding his behaviour/discipline.

The BOA have asked for an explanation asap from the taekwondo selectors so we will find out soon what its all about.
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Old 31-05-2012, 01:06   #6
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World Taekwondo rankings are updated on Friday when he will be confirmed as World Number 1.
Just read the the person who has been selected ahead of him his World number 93
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Old 31-05-2012, 14:58   #7
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Promising news - BOA have refused to ratify the selection of Lutalo Muhammad so Taekwondo selection panel have to meet again with an independent observer.
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Old 31-05-2012, 15:28   #8
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I want to know the reason why he was excluded. There must be one.
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Old 31-05-2012, 16:05   #9
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I want to know the reason why he was excluded. There must be one.
All to do with the fact he left the Taekwondo training programme (at considerable financial cost to him & his family) as he felt the methods didn't suit him. Results have demonstrated that it's worked & I guess some people don't like that & so are playing petty politics.

Of course that won't be admitted publicly - instead the Taekwondo selectors have come up with some spurious grounds regarding head shots which BOA have batted back.
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Old 31-05-2012, 23:10   #10
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Glad to see that sense has prevailed over bitter politics. Cook is one of our biggest gold threats. It was nonsensical to even consider leaving him off. It would be a disaster for the sport in this country if the face of British Taekwondo and the world number #1 was kept from competing.
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Old 01-06-2012, 00:24   #11
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Totally bizarre.

A committee digging their own grave.
God help the training program!
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:37   #12
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Don't the various sports get more funding if they win medals so you'd think this mob would WANT their number one to compete as he is our best chance in Takwondo.
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Old 01-06-2012, 15:24   #13
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Don't the various sports get more funding if they win medals so you'd think this mob would WANT their number one to compete as he is our best chance in Takwondo.
There's plenty of people at the blazer level in every sport who would rather have less money and more control than more money and less control.
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Old 01-06-2012, 22:57   #14
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Im glad this is not being aloud to slide.

As Paradise Lost mentions a few posts above he is one of our best chances for a gold medal at the games , its just insane whats gone on here , hopefully people will be sacked because of this starting with the GB taekwondo performance director Gary Hall ........

........Heres a quote from him regarding this totally avoidable sorry mess ......

"It's about selecting the best athlete to get the best results at the Olympic Games, no matter whether they are inside of outside of the programme," said Hall.

Haha yeah right ! how can he say that with a straight face ? its like us dropping Jess Ennis for the 7th/8th ranked Bristish heptathalete ................ stuff like this really pees me off its all to common in this country inept people running our sports.
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Old 01-06-2012, 23:38   #15
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There's plenty of people at the blazer level in every sport who would rather have less money and more control than more money and less control.
But that completely(sp) nuts.
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:35   #16
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Don't the various sports get more funding if they win medals so you'd think this mob would WANT their number one to compete as he is our best chance in Takwondo.
I was listening to a discussion about this on Radio 5 yesterday. Apparently, some talking head from the British Taekwondo Assoc (or whatever their governing body is called) was saying that just because someone is #1 in the world that didn't mean that they were the best because of the way the ranking points system worked. It all sounds totally nuts.
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Old 02-06-2012, 15:03   #17
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I was listening to a discussion about this on Radio 5 yesterday. Apparently, some talking head from the British Taekwondo Assoc (or whatever their governing body is called) was saying that just because someone is #1 in the world that didn't mean that they were the best because of the way the ranking points system worked. It all sounds totally nuts.
So whats the point in the rankings then lol ? they are just embarrassing themselves even more now , they are best off zipping it.
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Old 06-06-2012, 17:32   #18
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Aaron Cook again overlooked for taekwondo spot
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Taekwondo selectors have again chosen Lutalo Muhammad over European champion Aaron Cook for London 2012.

The British Olympic Association, which last week refused to ratifiy the decision, will meet again in the next 48 hours to consider the decision.

“We will convene our own panel to decide whether we are willing to decide whether to ratify the nomination or not”

European champion Muhammad is ranked 59th in the world in the -80kg weight class, while Cook is number one.

BOA chief executive Andy Hunt said: "We can select or we can reject [their selection]."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18343959


What a complete an untter shambles. GB has the World No 1 and GB taekwondo have for whatever reason chosen a guy outside the top 50! Hopefully the BOA will overule the original decision and pick Cook anyway.
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Old 06-06-2012, 17:57   #19
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Not trying to stir things up but the guy they have chosen is a muslim going by his name, they probably want a muslim or 2 so they can say they are inclusive and all that rubbish, I can see no other reason to leave Cook out, an absolute outrageous decision.
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Old 06-06-2012, 19:15   #20
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Why won't they come out and tell us exactly WHY they've made the decision?
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Old 06-06-2012, 19:25   #21
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Surely there's a simple solution to this - have a bout, winner gets the place. That's what happens in boxing.

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Not trying to stir things up but the guy they have chosen is a muslim going by his name, they probably want a muslim or 2 so they can say they are inclusive and all that rubbish, I can see no other reason to leave Cook out, an absolute outrageous decision.
Yes you are trying to stir things up. The real, petty reason for Cook not being selected have already been outlined in this thread, and it's nothing to do with "political correctness gone mad" as I'm sure you'd call it, so let's please not go there.
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Old 06-06-2012, 20:12   #22
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Unbelievable it really is.

The arrogance and incompetance of GB Taekwondo is mind blowing , still sticking with their pick of the world number 59 over the world number 1.

Its pure bitterness on their part , Cook quit their training program when results were grim for him and felt it better to leave the program and go it alone , as soon as he went alone results picked up massivly and he started winning events and rose to world number 1 in his catergory.

Hes made them and their training program look bad so they are basically getting payback now by not selecting him , they are making themselves look f****** idiots i so hope this is not allowed happen.

Anyone know if the BOA have got the power to put Cook in regardless of who GB Taekwondo select ?
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Old 06-06-2012, 20:28   #23
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Fear not. The final decision STILL rests with Clive Woodward and the BOA board, and there's no way this decision by GBT won't be vetoed. Of that, I have absolutely no doubt. This whole sorry mess is simply ludicrous, and certainly will not be upheld by those at the top.
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Old 06-06-2012, 20:43   #24
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Unbelievable it really is.

The arrogance and incompetance of GB Taekwondo is mind blowing , still sticking with their pick of the world number 59 over the world number 1.

Its pure bitterness on their part , Cook quit their training program when results were grim for him and felt it better to leave the program and go it alone , as soon as he went alone results picked up massivly and he started winning events and rose to world number 1 in his catergory.

Hes made them and their training program look bad so they are basically getting payback now by not selecting him , they are making themselves look f****** idiots i so hope this is not allowed happen.

Anyone know if the BOA have got the power to put Cook in regardless of who GB Taekwondo select ?
All those responsible at GB Taekwondo should be removed from their posts.
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Old 06-06-2012, 20:54   #25
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I hope this decision will be overturned its the most stupid decision ever however if Aaron is finally selected the pressure on him to deliver a gold will be immense
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