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Not quite sure how Nick has fluked his way to the final
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jules1000
30-05-2012
Really have'nt seen him do anything spectacular at all. He seems to rely on others too much and stays cool in the boardroom.
Socha
30-05-2012
I agree....

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1666191
WeeblesWobble
30-05-2012
Because he talks sense and doesn't talk out of his a*** x
SydneyHedgehog
30-05-2012
Originally Posted by jules1000:
“Really have'nt seen him do anything spectacular at all. He seems to rely on others too much and stays cool in the boardroom.”

I totally agree, there is so much love for him on this board (which i suspect is based more around his looks), but what can you point to in any bit of the process that makes you think ......... 'Wow!'

He should have gone weeks ago.
TXF0429
30-05-2012
Two wins as PM
Consistently good ideas
Hard worker
Best record in the competition
Best PM record in the competition
Well-respected by his colleagues
Etc.

Just think that because he isn't as outspoken as Ricky or Adam, he isn't recognized as much. he does contribute and is generally very competent.
friendlyguy2
30-05-2012
He was playing a tactical game to get Adam into the final because of how much he feared Jade as competition.
Caltonfan
30-05-2012
boris johnson's lovechild must have a very good business plan, cant remember him doing anything of note in this whole process and he will hopefully be found out in the interviews.
Tfan26
30-05-2012
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“Two wins as PM
Consistently good ideas
Hard worker
Best record in the competition
Best PM record in the competition
Well-respected by his colleagues
Etc.

Just think that because he isn't as outspoken as Ricky or Adam, he isn't recognized as much. he does contribute and is generally very competent.”

Agreed, he's the best one left.
mimi123456
30-05-2012
I had a feeling he would have been given the boot as all the other intelligent ones have been shoved out.

Glad he is in the final. Hope he wins too. I think he is the best of the lot. Go team Nick. Mind you, if he doesn't win, he could always be an Abercrombie and Fitch model. He so fine buff.
carnivalist
30-05-2012
I'm not sure why, but I get the impression that there's more to him than the edit leads you to believe.
jules1000
30-05-2012
Originally Posted by Socha:
“I agree....

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1666191”

Well the interviews will be very telling.:yawn:
Yobaba**
30-05-2012
On his first task where he was PM he struck me as a bit wishy-washy. He sort of grew on me and became my favourite, but that was more by default really. I think he's intelligent though.
SydneyHedgehog
30-05-2012
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“Two wins as PM
Consistently good ideas
Hard worker
Best record in the competition
Best PM record in the competition
Well-respected by his colleagues
Etc.

Just think that because he isn't as outspoken as Ricky or Adam, he isn't recognized as much. he does contribute and is generally very competent.”

Two wins as PM - Several people have this distinction, nothing special.

Consistently good ideas - Like?????

Hard worker - Maybe ........ can't seem to remember anything outstanding thats made me think this though.

Best PM record in the competition - So no other person had 2 wins as a PM? Really????

Well-respected by his colleagues - You are basing that on????
ArtyAttack
30-05-2012
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“Two wins as PM
Consistently good ideas
Hard worker
Best record in the competition
Best PM record in the competition
Well-respected by his colleagues
Etc.

Just think that because he isn't as outspoken as Ricky or Adam, he isn't recognized as much. he does contribute and is generally very competent.”

Well summed up. Really think he could win.
DuaneBenzie
30-05-2012
I don'think he's fluked his way to the final. For a start, he's not been in the boardroom once from my recollection other than tonight and has won the most tasks. Moreover, he's far from the weakest candidate left and also certainly deserves to stay over Adam. There is not alot seperating all of the last seven candidates with the exception of Stephen who was a level below the rest.

That said, Nick is far from a standout candidate and would be an underwhelming winner in comparison to past series. It's notihing to do with the fact that that he is not outspoken or does not have some strengths but he's not that damn good overall either.
jules1000
30-05-2012
Originally Posted by SydneyHedgehog:
“Two wins as PM - Several people have this distinction, nothing special.

Consistently good ideas - Like?????

Hard worker - Maybe ........ can't seem to remember anything outstanding thats made me think this though.

Best PM record in the competition - So no other person had 2 wins as a PM? Really????

Well-respected by his colleagues - You are basing that on????”

As they have just been discussing on YBF they think that Nick has submarined his way to the final....
sutie
30-05-2012
I think he's the supreme fence-sitter.:yawn:
jules1000
30-05-2012
Originally Posted by sutie:
“I think he's the supreme fence-sitter.:yawn:”

Excellent description.
KIMBA
30-05-2012
I like Nick. He's very sensible, has contributed well and proved he's reliable, IMO. His only fault really is he's a bit of a pushover, and caves in instead of pushing for his own ideas, but that is a pretty big flaw if he wants to be a businessman.

I mean, put it this way. Ricky and Tom have shown they're intimidated by him, and Phoenix did end their losing streak after they picked him. I don't think it's fair to say he's 'fluked'
DuaneBenzie
30-05-2012
How can a candidate sit on the fence in the apprentice?

It's not like it's a popularity contestant decided by public voting like Big Brother were you can avoid eviction by carrying favour with contestants. You have to win tasks as a team and get given roles and responsibilities to complete. Nick's put himself forward for PM and always contributed on the tasks. You can't progress in the show by hiding in the background.

He's certainly more reserved, measured and less outspoken than candidates like Adam and Jade but then Tom's like that as well. Is he a fence sitter?

When he was in the boardroom tonight he criticised Adam and Jade. He did not sell himself like Adam did(I'm the best and these other two are weak) or highlight the flaws of others like Jade who was very assertive but he did speak up..

You can fault him tonight for not pushing his idea more but he clearly did disagree with Adam and wanted to go with that from his own experience. You could describe him as lacking assertiveness but then that does not mean he is sittig on the fence. I think it's impossible to do in the Apprentice.

Nick is reserved and his posh boy demeanour and accent is in stark contrast to the remaining candidates but I don't think he has sat on any fences.
tabithakitten
30-05-2012
Originally Posted by SydneyHedgehog:
“Two wins as PM - Several people have this distinction, nothing special.

Consistently good ideas - Like?????

Hard worker - Maybe ........ can't seem to remember anything outstanding thats made me think this though.

Best PM record in the competition - So no other person had 2 wins as a PM? Really????

Well-respected by his colleagues - You are basing that on????”

Several people have this distinction - Tom, Nick and...?

Consistently good ideas - He usually realises where things are going astray (the tarting up junk task and the exercise task). Doesn't tend to push his ideas through but then Tom has been guilty of this too.

Best PM record - 2 wins no losses. And both wins could be seen to be as a direct result of his management which I don't think you could say for Tom's.

Well-respected by his colleagues - The other team picked him in a split second when given the choice. Nick and Karren have both indicated the same in press interviews and on the Final Five programme.

Obviously the points about PM record are this series only. But then the thread is about him fluking his way to the final of this series not any other.
Alrightmate
30-05-2012
Originally Posted by WeeblesWobble:
“Because he talks sense and doesn't talk out of his a*** x”

I think you need a bit more in this than just talking sense.

Lots of people can talk sense. Even on DS people can talk sense.

I think you need a that something extra otherwise you're just going to be a mediocre contestant who should theoretically finish at just over the halfway stage.
Stockingfiller
30-05-2012
He has a successful coffee kiosk business and another business as well. Seems to have done that without help ie he's done it himself. He doesn't rave on and on about how great he is as most of the others have done. Just seems to get on with it.

He doesn't lack confidence nor decisiveness..but not being insistent that he's right ( he often is) might be interpreted as a lack of passion rather than what it is - letting daft people who completely refuse to listen, carry on without having to have a yelling match. That might mean he'll not win but as I can relate more easily to people who aren't in your face yelling - I know who I'd rather work with !
Monkseal
31-05-2012
Week 1 - his team win comprehensively with him as PM, due to the fact that he contructed a solid business-plan based around maximising profit, whilst Gabrielle twittered around focusing on making pretty things.

Week 2 - his team win, although Nick's input appears to be minimal

Week 3 - his team win, with Nick heading up the trade-sales team, who comprehensively trounce the figures accrued by the trade-sales team for Phoenix

Week 4 - his team lose, but Nick identifies that Gabrielle has produced tat. He is saved from the boardroom by Gabrielle yet again having no notion of profit and loss, and everyone noticing how utterly worthless Jane is

Week 5 - his team lose, but Nick identifies that Duane has gone wrong on the video shoot, a fact that he and Laura repeatedly point out to him

Week 6 - his team win, thanks in large part to his being in charge of location, an area where they do far better than Phoenix

Week 7 - his team win, thanks to his strategy as Project Manager

Week 8 - his team win, although Nick's input appears to be minimal

Week 9 - his team win, with Nick doing most of the work with Jade. The website is boring, but the veneer of professionalism the two create is probably part of why they eke things out over Sterling

Week 10 - his team win, although Nick's input appears to be minimal

Week 11 - his team lose. Nick screws up horribly, but Adam is so overdue for being fired at this point that it doesn't matter.

I don't think it's particularly outrageous he's made it this far. He's done at least as much as anyone else in the process. The same timeline for Ricky Martin or Jade would probably be more depressing reading.
thombo1
31-05-2012
I think that in the case of Nick vs the other three remaining candidates, is that their highs have been higher, but their lows have also been lower. He's never really scored a huge success, but also never really been called up on a massive mistake like the others have at some point.
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