Night all.......see you tomorrow! So looking forward to seeing Margaret
PS...no rain yet!
PS...no rain yet!
The Apprentice: Why I fired Them 10:45pm BBC1
5 of 5
I preferred it when the interviews were in the second-last ep. It seems like quite a sour note to end the series on. Oh well.
Last 4 getting lots of praise from LS, and reckons they're very good.
Getting a taster of tomorrow...wooo
Is that it, a show of the start of it! Could be better imo.
An overall good show tonight....but tomorrow should be ace.
See you all then. -waves-
Getting a taster of tomorrow...wooo
Is that it, a show of the start of it! Could be better imo. An overall good show tonight....but tomorrow should be ace.
See you all then. -waves-
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“Night all.......see you tomorrow! So looking forward to seeing Margaret
PS...no rain yet!”
“Night all.......see you tomorrow! So looking forward to seeing Margaret
PS...no rain yet!”
Just had a decca out da window and still raining, but gentler than before, so you may get lucky with little or no rain.
Oh gosh yes, Margaret! woop woop!
Probably the worst 'Why I Fired Them' yet. lol
It reminded me how little his decisions have made sense, he even seemed to be clutching at straws explaining a few of them.
Apart from proving that the stars of the first few weeks were fired surprisingly soon (Jane, Duane, Katie), it was pretty much the Adam, Ricky and Tom show.
They could have at least showed Nick or Jade doing something
apart from the latter ballsing up that one task.
Overall, what a majorly unbalanced show.
It reminded me how little his decisions have made sense, he even seemed to be clutching at straws explaining a few of them.
Apart from proving that the stars of the first few weeks were fired surprisingly soon (Jane, Duane, Katie), it was pretty much the Adam, Ricky and Tom show.
They could have at least showed Nick or Jade doing something
apart from the latter ballsing up that one task. Overall, what a majorly unbalanced show.
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“He never forgives anyone who shouts across him and wont shut up.”
“He never forgives anyone who shouts across him and wont shut up.”
There's always that of course, and her dash up a long road didn't look good either, and something to re-watch for a laugh
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“Ta! What a very odd map...with blue being very slight! Sorry to go OT”
“Ta! What a very odd map...with blue being very slight! Sorry to go OT”
OT...star..we just got a huge bolt of lightning...
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“Probably the worst 'Why I Fired Them' yet. lol
It reminded me how little his decisions have made sense, he even seemed to be clutching at straws explaining a few of them.”
“Probably the worst 'Why I Fired Them' yet. lol
It reminded me how little his decisions have made sense, he even seemed to be clutching at straws explaining a few of them.”
He became very inconsistent, blaming Duane for not dumping the blame on someone else, then blaming Stephen for dumping the blame on someone else.
Just seen this again. It is a real treat. I had quite forgotten how close to the chop Katie was in the first one and Lord Sugars comments on the bathtime splashguard.
LOL
LOL
Originally Posted by DavetheScot:
“He became very inconsistent, blaming Duane for not dumping the blame on someone else, then blaming Stephen for dumping the blame on someone else.”
“He became very inconsistent, blaming Duane for not dumping the blame on someone else, then blaming Stephen for dumping the blame on someone else.”
Sacking Azhar for talking about strategy but not being listened to or doing it forcefully enough and sacking Michael for being too quet - but then keeping Nick.........
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Sacking Azhar for talking about strategy but not being listened to or doing it forcefully enough and sacking Michael for being too quet - but then keeping Nick.........”
“Sacking Azhar for talking about strategy but not being listened to or doing it forcefully enough and sacking Michael for being too quet - but then keeping Nick.........”
I understand what you're saying here but in fairness, the alternative was Adam
.
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“I understand what you're saying here but in fairness, the alternative was Adam.”
“I understand what you're saying here but in fairness, the alternative was Adam
.”
True, its probably got to be Adam given that choice - but he has gone for the one with sense who didn't stop diasters before over the incompetent who was lost anyway. He created that mess by firing Gabi last week as well as Stephen. He could have fired Adam and Nick this week, if he hadn't got his double firing in earlier to make sure he got teh numbers right.. Gabi wasn't great as a PM but she didn't have any major flaws that one or more of the finalists don't have. The ooutcome was dicated really by Stephen escaping the week before that with his bid to be PM.
I found his arguments for firing a few of them unconvincing.. I don't think he even believed some of them deserved to go themselves.. but he'd obviously seen the business models and decided to kick out the ones with the weakest.
Originally Posted by Satanel:
“I still think firing Bilyana was ridiculous. :sleep:”
“I still think firing Bilyana was ridiculous. :sleep:”
She was very irritating in the boardroom, I wouldn't want to start a business with someone who doesn't understand when it's beneficial to speak and when it isn't.
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“She was very irritating in the boardroom, I wouldn't want to start a business with someone who doesn't understand when it's beneficial to speak and when it isn't.”
“She was very irritating in the boardroom, I wouldn't want to start a business with someone who doesn't understand when it's beneficial to speak and when it isn't.”
She doesn't come though with a native understanding of English nuance, or Sugarisms, or an ability to read him or asense of when to defer to him. Her English seems excellent, but she just didn't pick up on the progression of his argument. She's also very nervous which didn't help. Arguably he should have realised all that, and been prepared to live with it for a bit to see what substance was there . He ought to be judging on their ability to do well in tasks, or to achieve their business plan - rather than on whether she can read his argument and realise he is heading towards firing Katie.
Its one of the issues with the Apprentice that some people can read him very well and adjust quickly enough, others can't, others get it orribly wrong, and others fumble it. Bili just couldn't do it, regardless of her other abilities, wheras the able people who can also read him very well (Zara, Kate) do very well.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“She doesn't come though with a native understanding of English nuance, or Sugarisms, or an ability to read him or asense of when to defer to him. Her English seems excellent, but she just didn't pick up on the progression of his argument. She's also very nervous which didn't help. Arguably he should have realised all that, and been prepared to live with it for a bit to see what substance was there . He ought to be judging on their ability to do well in tasks, or to achieve their business plan - rather than on whether she can read his argument and realise he is heading towards firing Katie.
Its one of the issues with the Apprentice that some people can read him very well and adjust quickly enough, others can't, others get it orribly wrong, and others fumble it. Bili just couldn't do it, regardless of her other abilities, wheras the able people who can also read him very well (Zara, Kate) do very well.”
“She doesn't come though with a native understanding of English nuance, or Sugarisms, or an ability to read him or asense of when to defer to him. Her English seems excellent, but she just didn't pick up on the progression of his argument. She's also very nervous which didn't help. Arguably he should have realised all that, and been prepared to live with it for a bit to see what substance was there . He ought to be judging on their ability to do well in tasks, or to achieve their business plan - rather than on whether she can read his argument and realise he is heading towards firing Katie.
Its one of the issues with the Apprentice that some people can read him very well and adjust quickly enough, others can't, others get it orribly wrong, and others fumble it. Bili just couldn't do it, regardless of her other abilities, wheras the able people who can also read him very well (Zara, Kate) do very well.”
It was interesting to hear Sugar talk on You're Hired about how sometimes candidates like Ricky seem like cocky idiots at first, but then grow during the process. This does make one wonder about whether some of the earlier departures, like Biliyana or Maria, might have actually learned from their mistakes and grown too. There's obviously some extent to which the process is a lottery; a candidate who makes early mistakes may survive if the team as a whole win and go on to learn and grow, or may go home if the team lose.
Originally Posted by DavetheScot:
“It was interesting to hear Sugar talk on You're Hired about how sometimes candidates like Ricky seem like cocky idiots at first, but then grow during the process. This does make one wonder about whether some of the earlier departures, like Biliyana or Maria, might have actually learned from their mistakes and grown too. There's obviously some extent to which the process is a lottery; a candidate who makes early mistakes may survive if the team as a whole win and go on to learn and grow, or may go home if the team lose.”
“It was interesting to hear Sugar talk on You're Hired about how sometimes candidates like Ricky seem like cocky idiots at first, but then grow during the process. This does make one wonder about whether some of the earlier departures, like Biliyana or Maria, might have actually learned from their mistakes and grown too. There's obviously some extent to which the process is a lottery; a candidate who makes early mistakes may survive if the team as a whole win and go on to learn and grow, or may go home if the team lose.”
Works the other way too. If Bili hadn't gone he would have fired Katie for being lazy - but there wasn't much real proof of that and she did show some flair amongst some mistakes too later on.
The only way around that is to put in some really weak candidates who can go early giving the others who may take some time to warm up, or be noisy or difficult, time to show what they can do. The question is then whether the weak people actually had some potential too. Other shows used to do this I think - but those with a public vote soon found that anyone noisy or unusual was still going and the dull people were staying. Lord Sugar doesn't have a public vote, but he may be working like the Big broher voters and just getting rid of anyone he doesn't like for any reason - regardless of how good they might be?
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Works the other way too. If Bili hadn't gone he would have fired Katie for being lazy - but there wasn't much real proof of that and she did show some flair amongst some mistakes too later on.
The only way around that is to put in some really weak candidates who can go early giving the others who may take some time to warm up, or be noisy or difficult, time to show what they can do. The question is then whether the weak people actually had some potential too. Other shows used to do this I think - but those with a public vote soon found that anyone noisy or unusual was still going and the dull people were staying. Lord Sugar doesn't have a public vote, but he may be working like the Big broher voters and just getting rid of anyone he doesn't like for any reason - regardless of how good they might be?”
“Works the other way too. If Bili hadn't gone he would have fired Katie for being lazy - but there wasn't much real proof of that and she did show some flair amongst some mistakes too later on.
The only way around that is to put in some really weak candidates who can go early giving the others who may take some time to warm up, or be noisy or difficult, time to show what they can do. The question is then whether the weak people actually had some potential too. Other shows used to do this I think - but those with a public vote soon found that anyone noisy or unusual was still going and the dull people were staying. Lord Sugar doesn't have a public vote, but he may be working like the Big broher voters and just getting rid of anyone he doesn't like for any reason - regardless of how good they might be?”
I don't think there is a way round it, to be honest. Someone has to go early, and there's an inevitable randomness to it. I was really just commenting on it, not implying that there's any easy way to avoid it.
Originally Posted by DavetheScot:
“It was interesting to hear Sugar talk on You're Hired about how sometimes candidates like Ricky seem like cocky idiots at first, but then grow during the process. This does make one wonder about whether some of the earlier departures, like Biliyana or Maria, might have actually learned from their mistakes and grown too. There's obviously some extent to which the process is a lottery; a candidate who makes early mistakes may survive if the team as a whole win and go on to learn and grow, or may go home if the team lose.”
“It was interesting to hear Sugar talk on You're Hired about how sometimes candidates like Ricky seem like cocky idiots at first, but then grow during the process. This does make one wonder about whether some of the earlier departures, like Biliyana or Maria, might have actually learned from their mistakes and grown too. There's obviously some extent to which the process is a lottery; a candidate who makes early mistakes may survive if the team as a whole win and go on to learn and grow, or may go home if the team lose.”
Bilyana, probably. Maria - no way. A silly immature young girl with nothing to recommend her other than a big mouth
5 of 5
