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HDR Fox T2 not responding issue
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Miles_Osborne
04-06-2012
The last few days I have noticed the disc activity on my humax appears to have increased so I can hear the drive (soft thuds) even when it appears idle.

The drive is 1tb and I had put this down to fragmentation but after reading other posts this appears not possible.

As another side affect which may be unrelated I have found a number of times over the last few days when the controller (new batteries fitted) can't control the device. The controls on the box still work but the controller won't. Turning the humax on and off resolves as does leaving it to sort whatever it is doing out.

Any thoughts, I wondered if the drive maybe on its way out(any way to check) or ....?

Miles
Miles_Osborne
04-06-2012
Further to this I have now downloaded the beta version (27) which has the HDD Test ability and that reports the drive is fine. I'll monitor but if anyone has any thoughts on what could be causing the IR Receiver to stop in this way it would be appreciated.
tc9604
04-07-2012
I'm investigating a similar problem with my remote where it's failing slowly - I think it may be the IR receiver in the box at fault.
Martin Liddle
04-07-2012
Originally Posted by Miles_Osborne:
“The last few days I have noticed the disc activity on my humax appears to have increased so I can hear the drive (soft thuds) even when it appears idle.”

What do you mean by idle? If it is not in stnadby then it will most probably be recording the currently tuned channel to the time shift buffer.
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“As another side affect which may be unrelated I have found a number of times over the last few days when the controller (new batteries fitted) can't control the device. The controls on the box still work but the controller won't.”

Try ringing Humax and discuss it with technical support. If they think it is the remote then chances are they will send you a new one free of charge.
Miles_Osborne
04-07-2012
By idle I mean the humax shouldn't be doing anything, but you are correct I had forgotten the time shift function so it could be doing that.

It is 100% not the controller as the controller continues to manage the tv, it just loses the ability to control the humax, the humax on the box controls still work but they are very limited. Sometimes control comes back and sometimes turning it off and back on gets it working.

I did email humax a couple of weeks ago but heard nothing so what I have done is:

* formatted the hard drive
* reset the humax to default

Tonight we had no issues so I am still going with my 'theory' that the humax could be too busy to handle the ir request - not sure how they index the data etc.

If the problem returns I'll post here and will ask humax to replace it under warranty.
Martin Liddle
05-07-2012
Originally Posted by Miles_Osborne:
“If the problem returns I'll post here and will ask humax to replace it under warranty.”

There have been a number of similar reports and most have been due to problems with the remote. One knowledgeable person stripped down the remote and believes he understands the design fault. I would ring up Humax and discuss it.
Miles_Osborne
05-07-2012
Originally Posted by Martin Liddle:
“There have been a number of similar reports and most have been due to problems with the remote. One knowledgeable person stripped down the remote and believes he understands the design fault. I would ring up Humax and discuss it.”

I suspect their are remote issues, but in this case I turn off on the humax and it then works and tv control by the remote remains unaffected so I'm not sure I can see how it can be the remote, unless they had a similar experience.

If it comes back after my format/reset then I'll call them. If it does or doesn't happen now I'll post an update. Would be interesting to see if others have a experienced an ir failure at the humax end
Miles_Osborne
08-07-2012
** Well that was coincidental, as soon as I made the post the device again stopped receiving.

Looks like warranty will need to sort it out
andyhurley
09-07-2012
I'm sure this has been checked but I started having problems with my HDR in the last couple of weeks (only a few months old). It would only sporadically respond to the remote but still operated the TV fine still flashed for every button press.

Eventually I tried changing the batteries only to find it did not work at all (still flashed red though).

A 3rd change of batteries returned to it's full working order though so I can only assume the flashing lights are deceptive and I had a dud set of batteries in the middle.

Just a thought.
tc9604
13-07-2012
I have exactly the same situation. Remote lights up and operates the TV but the Humax has stopped responding. Tried several sets of new Tesco batteries,
grahamlthompson
13-07-2012
Originally Posted by tc9604:
“I have exactly the same situation. Remote lights up and operates the TV but the Humax has stopped responding. Tried several sets of new Tesco batteries,”

When you press a button on the remote does the white pvr button on the remote flash red or one of the others. If another white button flashes red then press the pvr button and try again.
Miles_Osborne
14-07-2012
Does the it on the humax work at all- ie if you turn the device off and back on. As graham said is the remote showing correctly.
tc9604
14-07-2012
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“When you press a button on the remote does the white pvr button on the remote flash red or one of the others. If another white button flashes red then press the pvr button and try again.”

Yes the PVR button flashes as normal. The only functions I have set up are PVR and TV, TV is always fine. PVR works erratically and will stop working or begin working again without me doing anything.

Originally Posted by Miles_Osborne:
“Does the it on the humax work at all- ie if you turn the device off and back on. As graham said is the remote showing correctly.”

Turning the box or the remote on and off doesn't help particularly, the fault is intermittent and unpredictable.

Time to return it to the shop I think Fortunately John Lewis offer a 2yr warranty.

Thanks for the suggestions.
grahamlthompson
14-07-2012
Originally Posted by tc9604:
“Yes the PVR button flashes as normal. The only functions I have set up are PVR and TV, TV is always fine. PVR works erratically and will stop working or begin working again without me doing anything.


Turning the box or the remote on and off doesn't help particularly, the fault is intermittent and unpredictable.

Time to return it to the shop I think Fortunately John Lewis offer a 2yr warranty.

Thanks for the suggestions.”

Talk to Humax, the remotes aren't known for being super reliable.

When the remote doesn't work do the buttons under the flap continue to function ?

If so Humax will most likely send you a new remote.
tc9604
24-07-2012
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Talk to Humax, the remotes aren't known for being super reliable.

When the remote doesn't work do the buttons under the flap continue to function ?

If so Humax will most likely send you a new remote.”

A quick update on this: Humax sent a replacement remote last week and things have been fine since so, touch wood, the problem is solved.

Thanks for the help.
Miles_Osborne
24-07-2012
Yes I have been very impressed with Humax support and warranty
Martin Liddle
24-07-2012
Originally Posted by Miles_Osborne:
“Yes I have been very impressed with Humax support and warranty”

So what was the resolution of your problem?
Miles_Osborne
25-07-2012
They replaced the unit - not the remote so unfortunately we won't know what was the cause except it wasn't the remote.
tc9604
25-07-2012
Originally Posted by tc9604:
“A quick update on this: Humax sent a replacement remote last week and things have been fine since so, touch wood, the problem is solved.

Thanks for the help.”

No sooner had I posted this than the problem came back... remote not working.

Therefore it must be the unit itself which is faulty, which is disappointing to say the least.
DeeJayBee
15-11-2014
I realise this is an older post, but it's an old problem and we're all "blaming" the remote, the batteries when it's clearly a problem with the unit.

I purchased a T2 in October 2012 and it stopped responding to the remote in March of this year. I also tried batteries and alternative remotes, all with the same bad result.

As earlier posters have said, it's possible to be either patient and wait 10-15 minutes for the unit to respond again or take a chance and switch off at the front button (not a full power down/up) and it may work after. But only for a period of time.

I've been in discussion with Customer Support (although those two words are an oxymoron to me) for the past 8 months and they won't admit it's a known issue or do something about it. I followed their instructions and reformatted the hard drive, reset to factory defaults (losing lots of unseen recordings in the process) and the unit is still not fit for purpose.

There's not a vast amount of competition in this field, other than Sky and Topfield have clearly given up, so the buyer is almost forced into throwing good money after bad with an unspecified repair, which seems to involve replacing the HDD or buying the latest shiny example of their products - and sweating on the fact it will continue to operate as required for the duration of ownership.

I now have a black brick sitting under my TV and Humax will not own up to the fact they have a design fault and do the right thing
Martin Liddle
15-11-2014
Originally Posted by DeeJayBee:
“I realise this is an older post, but it's an old problem and we're all "blaming" the remote, the batteries when it's clearly a problem with the unit.”

There are a variety of problems that can cause these symptoms; don't assume what you are experiencing is what everybody else is experiencing.
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“I purchased a T2 in October 2012 and it stopped responding to the remote in March of this year. I also tried batteries and alternative remotes, all with the same bad result.

As earlier posters have said, it's possible to be either patient and wait 10-15 minutes for the unit to respond again or take a chance and switch off at the front button (not a full power down/up) and it may work after. But only for a period of time.”

My best guess based on what you have said is the front panel board is faulty and needs changing (or repairing).
DeeJayBee
15-11-2014
From time spent looking at this and the hummy.tv forum, I am beginning to suspect it is the front panel also and it's useful to have 2nd opinions - that's what these forums are all about.!

It still doesn't get over my disappointment with Humax's intransigence to help other than fob me off with suggestions to reformat, reset etc. when I think they know there's a hardware problem with my unit.

Appreciate the feedback just the same!
quirkafleeg
07-02-2015
Argh, so it's not just me, then!

I have an ancient Humax PVR8000T that still works, with no issues, and it just shows you the blind faith we have: An old model is perfect, therefore everything else with that brand on, will be. At least that's my mindset.

The remote on the Fox T2 drives me *bloody mad*. I have lost count the amount of times I've changed batteries in my remote. The PVR light still turns red, but nothing happens. Sometimes I find twiddling the batteries helps (though it may just be me imagining that). It's absolutely not working today and pressing the buttons on the unit takes forever, and I can't see the TV Guide without the remote.

Tried the hard reset button on the back of the unit, still no joy!

Is there any way I can determine whether it's the remote at fault, or the IR receiver on the PVR box?
chrisjr
07-02-2015
Originally Posted by quirkafleeg:
“Argh, so it's not just me, then!

I have an ancient Humax PVR8000T that still works, with no issues, and it just shows you the blind faith we have: An old model is perfect, therefore everything else with that brand on, will be. At least that's my mindset.

The remote on the Fox T2 drives me *bloody mad*. I have lost count the amount of times I've changed batteries in my remote. The PVR light still turns red, but nothing happens. Sometimes I find twiddling the batteries helps (though it may just be me imagining that). It's absolutely not working today and pressing the buttons on the unit takes forever, and I can't see the TV Guide without the remote.

Tried the hard reset button on the back of the unit, still no joy!

Is there any way I can determine whether it's the remote at fault, or the IR receiver on the PVR box?”

It is possible to change the remote control frequency on the Fox-T2. If the remote and the box have got out of step then that could cause all sorts of aggro.

This is how to change it

http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/using-...-same-room.24/

Though if the remote and the Humax are out of step you may not get a response from the Humax and may have to try each code in turn "blind" as it were until you hit the one that works.

Just out of interest does the Fox T2 remote control the old PVR8000? I know my Fox T2 remote used to work on my 9150 until I used the above procedure to change it.
quirkafleeg
07-02-2015
I gave my niece my PVR8000T, or I would test it, but I would assume it would still work, not sure. Have to give it a try.

I can see someone on the Hummy.tv forums saying a unit underneath the Fox T2 may be interfering and to push the Fox T2 unit back by an inch or two (I have a rather ancient Philips DVD player underneath it, hardly ever used, powered on but on standby).

Typically, my remote is working again now! There seems to be no rhyme or reason for it! I'll have a look at the link you provided, chrisjr, I appreciate it
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