[mike65]

Even the most ardent Royalist might well blanch at the line up of middle of the road pop and humourous presenters for the 3 hours knees up tonight, looking elsewhere reveals early an case of summer televisual torpor except for BBC4 which is keeping the viewer on its toes

8 pm - The Lighthouse Stevensons
Denis Lawson tells the story of 19th-century engineer Robert Stevenson and his family, who have been credited with taming the Scottish coastline by constructing the famous Bell Rock lighthouse (okay its a repeat)

9 pm - Pandemic - A Horizon Guide
Virologist Dr Mike Leahy traces the history of infectious diseases using the BBC archives. He explores the story of smallpox, the success of mass vaccinations and charts mankind's scientific progress from the early understanding of Aids to the code-cracking of Sars, asking whether man or nature is winning the battle (okay its a repeat pt 2)

10 pm- Surviving Progress (2011)
Premiere. Documentary in which historian Ronald Wright expands on the themes explored in his book A Short History of Progress, which charts humanity's development throughout history. Physicist Stephen Hawking, author Margaret Atwood and conservationist Jane Goodall join directors Mathieu Roy and Harold Crooks to assess whether progress is a force for good, or a trap that lures civilisations into a downward spiral toward collapse.

Why isn't this on a 9 pm for Petes sake? Sometimes BBC4s scheduling is a mystery.

Anyway three programmes that do not assume the worst of the viewer.

[ProgRocker]

I'm sick of the Jubilee coverage too. BBC 4 has some fantastic TV shows. Nothing there appeals to me for tonight but some nights it is brill!

[KennyT]

Watched "Progress" on iPlayer this morning...

Some nice pithy analogies: "up to 1980, we lived on the interest of Nature's capital, since then, we've been eating into the capital..."

Basically, putting it in a nutshell, as a species, "We're f**ked"!


K

[Doghouse Riley]

The Lighthouse Stevensons, though an excellent programme is of course a repeat.
BBC4 leave things just long enough, so that you're not quite sure whether you've already seen them, before repeating them again....and again.,

[Straker]

Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley

The Lighthouse Stevensons, though an excellent programme is of course a repeat.
BBC4 leave things just long enough, so that you're not quite sure whether you've already seen them, before repeating them again....and again.,

Doghouse keeping irony fans amused......

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1644497

When is a repeat not a repeat? When it’s a DR sanctioned re-showing of course!

[Doghouse Riley]

Originally Posted by Straker

Doghouse keeping irony fans amused......

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1644497

When is a repeat not a repeat? When it’s a DR sanctioned re-showing of course!

Hmm..

Your preoccupation with cataloguing previous posts of mine, (the one you quoted was from nearly three months ago) when I never even commit to memory, anything you have to say (other than your usual propensity for being aggressive towards all and sundry on here), I find particularly amusing, however sad this obsession of yours may be.

But I guess, "everyone should have at least one hobby."

[mikw]

Originally Posted by Straker

Doghouse keeping irony fans amused......

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1644497

When is a repeat not a repeat? When it’s a DR sanctioned re-showing of course!

It's ironic, seeing as most of Doghouse's posts are repeats anyway!

[Doghouse Riley]

Originally Posted by mikw

It's ironic, seeing as most of Doghouse's posts are repeats anyway!

I've always been critical of repetition for repetition's sake, or in the case of of BBC4 when it's just to fill the schedule..

A bit like your repeated criticisms of my opinions, when you have so few of your own. You did well to find that one as I posted the one you quoted, all of three weeks ago. Done and dusted and forgotten about by all...'cept you?

But as I said, everyone should have a hobby, trawling this board for my posts seems to be yours. So strange.

You never fail to amuse me.

[Straker]

Originally Posted by mikw

It's ironic, seeing as most of Doghouse's posts are repeats anyway!

Indeed. BBC4 should commission him to do a series on hypocrisy and then we could look forward to the delicious irony of him complaining here about them repeating it!!

[Straker]

Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley

Hmm..

Your preoccupation with cataloguing previous posts of mine, (the one you quoted was from nearly three months ago) when I never even commit to memory, anything you have to say (other than your usual propensity for being aggressive towards all and sundry on here), I find particularly amusing, however sad this obsession of yours may be.

But I guess, "everyone should have at least one hobby."

It’s called “remembering”. Perhaps if you could remember your own stance on a subject from one day to the next you wouldn’t embarass yourself as you’ve done to such humourous effect above.

[Doghouse Riley]

Originally Posted by Straker

It’s called “remembering”. Perhaps if you could remember your own stance on a subject from one day to the next you wouldn’t embarass yourself as you’ve done to such humourous effect above.

Oh? is that your excuse for your obsessive behaviour?

It seems rather strange that my post, (I'll post it again as you have obviously forgotten it)....

The Lighthouse Stevensons, though an excellent programme is of course a repeat.
BBC4 leave things just long enough, so that you're not quite sure whether you've already seen them, before repeating them again....and again.,

Which wasn't a criticism of the programme, just of the BBC's practice, it was also all I had to say on the subject.

This "I'm allowed to do" even if it causes such discomfort to you, that you have to make successive sarcastic posts.

The only person you've embarrassed, is yourself.

But then as I said, everyone has to have a hobby, though yours seems rather sad, but hey! knock yourself out.

[mikw]

Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley

Which wasn't a criticism of the programme, just of the BBC's practice, it was also all I had to say on the subject.

.

"BBC's practice"??!!

Tell me a broadcaster that doesn't do it......

[Radiomaniac]

Yep, BBC4 is my favourite channel. I tell myself that the licence fee that I pay all goes there and not on crap like EastEnders and The Voice etc!

[Straker]

Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley

Oh? is that your excuse for your obsessive behaviour?

That’s priceless coming from you. At least every other post you’re bemoaning/berating BBC4 for the number of repeats except of course when it’s one you approve of as above.

Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley

But then as I said, everyone has to have a hobby, though yours seems rather sad, but hey! knock yourself out.

The DR boilerplate response to any and all criticism which feebly attempts aloofness with a side-order of patronising and fails miserably at both. You need a new script......

[LanceWilkins]

Originally Posted by Radiomaniac

Yep, BBC4 is my favourite channel. I tell myself that the licence fee that I pay all goes there and not on crap like EastEnders and The Voice etc!

Yes indeed. BBC4 is always my first port-of-call for the evenings possible viewings.

[SheepdogNo1]

BBC4 is the only channel worth watching , its array of little gems to watch are superb let alone its season of Nordic Noir has been outstanding. Only channel worth the 'War On Boredom Tax'

[Doghouse Riley]

Originally Posted by Straker

That’s priceless coming from you. At least every other post you’re bemoaning/berating BBC4 for the number of repeats except of course when it’s one you approve of as above.



The DR boilerplate response to any and all criticism which feebly attempts aloofness with a side-order of patronising and fails miserably at both. You need a new script......

You need a new hobby instead of constantly seeking out and whinging about my opinions on TV.

Do you do it because I've no interest in yours?

[Doghouse Riley]

Originally Posted by mikw

"BBC's practice"??!!

Tell me a broadcaster that doesn't do it......

Oh dear! Is that your best shot?

[Doghouse Riley]

Originally Posted by SheepdogNo1

BBC4 is the only channel worth watching , its array of little gems to watch are superb let alone its season of Nordic Noir has been outstanding. Only channel worth the 'War On Boredom Tax'

Yes there are many good programmes on BBC4 and I've started many "heads up" threads on here (conversely a few of my critics can only comment on other people's opinions rather than having any "original thoughts").

But my point is that there are too many programmes repeated on BBC4, some are repeated three times in the space of seven days. Then repeated again in six months time.
These are also usually available on i-Player. (One of my detractors has in different posts, used the excuse that "some people haven't got i-Player" and in another topic, "most people have got i-Player," probably just to be their usual contrary self, (this board can be a laugh a minute sometimes).

The BBC has too many channels, in my opinion. (I guess it was a bit like Moses with the tablets, when they decided they needed four).
We would be better served with fewer BBC channels, three would be plenty, so fewer paid for repeats, with the savings an improved quality of programmes and thus better use of the licence fee.
After he "kicked the horn of plenty" and no further cash came out, Mark Thompson wouldn't close a channel, he just promised us to expect more repeats, where's the sense in that?

Others may have a different opinion, I really don't mind. This fact seems to agitate a few, so why they drag up old posts of mine and dish out their usual sarcastic nonsense, is beyond me. But their rants can be amusing.

It's just TV. But maybe not for some.



If someone wants to talk about the repeats on commercial channels, then they should start a thread about them.

[mikw]

Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley

Yes there are many good programmes on BBC4 and I've started many "heads up" threads on here (conversely a few of my critics can only comment on other people's opinions rather than having any "original thoughts").

But my point is that there are too many programmes repeated on BBC4, some are repeated three times in the space of seven days. Then repeated again in six months time.
These are also usually available on i-Player. (One of my detractors has in different posts, used the excuse that "some people haven't got i-Player" and in another topic, "most people have got i-Player," probably just to be their usual contrary self, (this board can be a laugh a minute sometimes).

The BBC has too many channels, in my opinion. (I guess it was a bit like Moses with the tablets, when they decided they needed four).
We would be better served with fewer BBC channels, three would be plenty, so fewer paid for repeats, with the savings an improved quality of programmes and thus better use of the licence fee.
After he "kicked the horn of plenty" and no further cash came out, Mark Thompson wouldn't close a channel, he just promised us to expect more repeats, where's the sense in that?

Others may have a different opinion, I really don't mind. This fact seems to agitate a few, so why they drag up old posts of mine and dish out their usual sarcastic nonsense, is beyond me. But their rants can be amusing.

It's just TV. But maybe not for some.



If someone wants to talk about the repeats on commercial channels, then they should start a thread about them.

Having a channel costs relative peanuts, and this subject has been done to death on the "broadcasting" section of DS.

If you "block batch" repeats on low rate deals (which the BBC do) you can negotiate a certain amount of showings for no more than the initial cost of the programming.

Therefore, even if the BBC only had two channels, the license fee wouldn't change.

That is why pay TV can have hundreds of channels.

And, if the BBC had less channels, then BBC4 would probably be one of the ones that was cut.

[stripedcat]

BBC 4 is worth the license fee alone. The foreign TV dramas are all very good(especially Wallander and Spiral). But, for me it is good that they have repeated the old BBC drams(Smiley's People, House of Cards, The Singing Detective, A Perfect Spy, Boys From the Blackstuff, etc.). The documentaries and biopic dramas are also good.

Good that someone in TV thinks that the audience actually has a brain!

[CyrilTheWasp]

BBC4 and Sky Arts 1 and 2 are the only channels worth watching.Sky Arts have been showing some great productions from the Globe Theatre just recently.Never thought I would see the day when Sky was leading the way in culture but well done to them I say.The BBC obviously see anything to do with arts or culture as minority viewing. Forever getting the mood wrong under this present DG.

[mikw]

Originally Posted by CyrilTheWasp

BBC4 and Sky Arts 1 and 2 are the only channels worth watching.Sky Arts have been showing some great productions from the Globe Theatre just recently.Never thought I would see the day when Sky was leading the way in culture but well done to them I say.The BBC obviously see anything to do with arts or culture as minority viewing. Forever getting the mood wrong under this present DG.

It's more of a case that they can't afford it.

Wheras Sky charges an average of £500 per subscriber.

[Doghouse Riley]

Originally Posted by mikw

Having a channel costs relative peanuts, and this subject has been done to death on the "broadcasting" section of DS.

If you "block batch" repeats on low rate deals (which the BBC do) you can negotiate a certain amount of showings for no more than the initial cost of the programming.

Therefore, even if the BBC only had two channels, the license fee wouldn't change.

That is why pay TV can have hundreds of channels.

And, if the BBC had less channels, then BBC4 would probably be one of the ones that was cut.

So keep four channels and have quantity across the board rather than improved quality amongst fewer?
That makes a lot of sense.

An understanding of basic economics would tell you that three has to be cheaper than four, regardless of the excuses you are making.
I didn't suggest a reduction in the licence fee,so why mention it?

But whatever...

[Straker]

Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley

Do you do it because I've no interest in yours?

Rich coming from you. The only posts you have any time for on here are your own. You’re in constant, antagonistic and dismissive conflict with anyone who dares quote you with a contrasting opinion.

Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley

But whatever...

Ah, the sophisticated retort so beloved of the truculent yoof of today. Affecting indifference (while replying to every single perceived criticism) in order to disparage. How very teenage of you......