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Old 05-06-2012, 22:32
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The DSBB Big Brother launch thread tonight already has more pages than the Celeb BB launch. Hope this means ratings will be similar.
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Old 05-06-2012, 22:34
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I had to laugh when the Daily Express on Saturday said last year's BB had terrific viewing figures. If it was on the Big Four, it would be classed as a flop and wasn't this the same paper a few years ago was classing the show as dated and rubbish.
Everything's relative. Celebrity Juice and Keith Lemon's LemonAid have both attracted 1.8m viewers recently and for CJ on ITV2 that's brilliant but for KLL on ITV1 that's rubbish.
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Old 05-06-2012, 22:35
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BB has a core audience, if they got a decent presenter (anyone but Brian and that annoying accent) ratings would improve. I hope it gets a decent 2.5m tonight and stabilises around 2m.
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Old 05-06-2012, 22:37
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I had to laugh when the Daily Express on Saturday said last year's BB had terrific viewing figures. If it was on the Big Four, it would be classed as a flop and wasn't this the same paper a few years ago was classing the show as dated and rubbish.
Yes, if you have time or haven't seen it before, I recommend you watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWqvWFUj51k

Another instance where the papers completely reversed their policy.
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Old 05-06-2012, 22:39
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I am guessing they are actually UK holidaymakers/ex patriates in Provence
Good point. If it's ok to lump in ITV1+1 viewers to the first run audience, then why not "BBC1 outre-mers"...?
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Old 05-06-2012, 22:40
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Yes, if you have time or haven't seen it before, I recommend you watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWqvWFUj51k

Another instance where the papers completely reversed their policy.
Too true, also I reckon should TXF start to slide in the ratings, which will happen in time, all their tabloid allies will turn on it like they did with BB.
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Old 05-06-2012, 22:44
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Next week soap fans are reduced to one and a half hours of Corrie, one hour of Eastenders and one hour of Emmerdale.

God bless the Euros.

I'm torn. As a patriotic Scot, I want England to get knocked out in the first round. As a BBC fanboy, I want them to reach the semi-final so that BBC1 gets two more bumper audiences.

Actually, I like Roy Hodgson and I usually find myself feeling sorry for the players when England gets eliminated from a tournament. The reason we Scots (some of us anyway) don't want England to win a tournament is because we know that if they do the Press will go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about it. Which is ironic because the newspapers probably want England to fail even more that the Scots do because journalists are evil power-crazy b**tards who like to have someone to pick on and be nasty about. And they seem to get a particular pleasure in picking on England footballers and England managers.
As a Welsh man I prefer to see them make the quarters then get knocked out on penalties, preferbly by Ireland this time - though more likely Spain or Italy.

And the reason us Celts don't want England to win is firstly why should we, we're not English, but secondly because the press always go into a tournament believing they should win hands down even though England have done nothing on the pitch in decades to suggest they are worth of a place in the semi-finals, never mind winning the thing.

It's actually refreshing seeing the expectations of the press this year actually be far more realistic and I think there is a feeling this year that they really would have to earn their place in the latter rounds of the competition rather than trade on past glories - so there is a chance for the England football team to earn a bit of respect this year.
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Old 05-06-2012, 22:47
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BB has a core audience, if they got a decent presenter (anyone but Brian and that annoying accent) ratings would improve. I hope it gets a decent 2.5m tonight and stabilises around 2m.
Agreed, Brian is the weak link in the coverage.
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Old 05-06-2012, 22:53
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For those of us who have been away, the BBC "highlights" just now are a bit of a waste, just a lot of waffle designed for obsessives who watched it all anyway. I think a proper round up would have done well tonight.
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Old 05-06-2012, 23:07
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Next week soap fans are reduced to one and a half hours of Corrie, one hour of Eastenders and one hour of Emmerdale.

God bless the Euros.

I'm torn. As a patriotic Scot, I want England to get knocked out in the first round. As a BBC fanboy, I want them to reach the semi-final so that BBC1 gets two more bumper audiences.

Actually, I like Roy Hodgson and I usually find myself feeling sorry for the players when England gets eliminated from a tournament. The reason we Scots (some of us anyway) don't want England to win a tournament is because we know that if they do the Press will go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about it. Which is ironic because the newspapers probably want England to fail even more that the Scots do because journalists are evil power-crazy b**tards who like to have someone to pick on and be nasty about. And they seem to get a particular pleasure in picking on England footballers and England managers.
Like it used to be in the eighties. I still think three episodes are enough for the soaps and the quality was better in those days.
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Old 05-06-2012, 23:11
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ABC in America are launching a new reality show soon called The Glass House: http://www.abctheglasshouse.com/about-the-glass-house/

It is a blatant Big Brother rip-off, with even ex-Big Brother USA staff working on it. If it's a hit, I expect interest from British broadcasters for the format, such as from E4 or ITV2.
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Old 05-06-2012, 23:14
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ABC in America are launching a new reality show soon called The Glass House: http://www.abctheglasshouse.com/about-the-glass-house/

It is a blatant Big Brother rip-off, with even ex-Big Brother USA staff working on it. If it's a hit, I expect interest from British broadcasters in the format, such as from E4 or ITV2.
if e4 took it, they would be slammed by all, as it is much closer to our viewer vote version than the US housemate voting version...
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Old 05-06-2012, 23:18
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ABC in America are launching a new reality show soon called The Glass House: http://www.abctheglasshouse.com/about-the-glass-house/

It is a blatant Big Brother rip-off, with even ex-Big Brother USA staff working on it. If it's a hit, I expect interest from British broadcasters for the format, such as from E4 or ITV2.
It literally sounds like Big Brother in everything but name. How on earth do they get away with that?
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Old 05-06-2012, 23:19
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It literally sounds like Big Brother in everything but name. How on earth do they get away with that?
You could say the same for shows like "Duets" or even "The Choice" - both 'The Voice' rip-offs, the latter one doesn't even hide it in the name, although it is a dating show and not a singing contest.
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Old 05-06-2012, 23:23
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It literally sounds like Big Brother in everything but name. How on earth do they get away with that?
CBS has filed a lawsuit against ABC and trying to sue them for this show. But ABC defended the show, as seen on this following website, in which they say what the differences allegedly are between Glass House and BB: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr...cbs-abc-328920
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Old 05-06-2012, 23:45
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CBS has filed a lawsuit against ABC and trying to sue them for this show. But ABC defended the show, as seen on this following website, in which they say what the differences allegedly are between Glass House and BB: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr...cbs-abc-328920
I can see the CBS lawsuit being tossed out.............BB copyright covers the name and the concept.......not people being filmed in a building or indeed a competition element. I could see ITV2 snapping it up if it became available.
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Old 05-06-2012, 23:48
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if e4 took it, they would be slammed by all, as it is much closer to our viewer vote version than the US housemate voting version...
Another pile of dross, it's more likely to end up on MTV, which likes these American shows. I think the main three broadcasters are a bit wary of these shows now as the appetite for them is declining and E4 have had their fingers burned with three reality duds recently. Also ITV2 seems to be evolving towards scripted reality and imported talent shows.
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Old 05-06-2012, 23:58
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Another pile of dross, it's more likely to end up on MTV, which likes these American shows. I think the main three broadcasters are a bit wary of these shows now as the appetite for them is declining and E4 have had their fingers burned with three reality duds recently. Also ITV2 seems to be evolving towards scripted reality and imported talent shows.
Scripted reality shows are basically bad soap operas. Hollyoaks should be more concerned by their success than proper reality shows.

I don't think there's much hope for Glass House though. No USP at all.
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Old 06-06-2012, 00:02
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Scripted reality shows are basically bad soap operas. Hollyoaks should be more concerned than proper reality shows by their success.

I don't think there's much hope for Glass House though. No USP at all.
I think it will be one of these shows that will play to 100,000 bored people under 25 on MTV. I think the whole reality genre is moving on now, the old favourite of let's stick 12 people in a location or get in some Z list celebs is tanking, with only IAC waving the flag in the ratings on the big four for these shows.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:55
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I can see the CBS lawsuit being tossed out.............BB copyright covers the name and the concept.......not people being filmed in a building or indeed a competition element. I could see ITV2 snapping it up if it became available.
It reminds me of this reality show, Dilemme, in France. It was pretty much Big Brother with tasks, nominations and viewer voting. The difference was that there was an "inside host", some people dressed in complete red, tasks were based on dilemmas and the house space was much more narrow. They also had this thing where they open this box to see if the box they chosen were adding or subtracting money towards the prize pool.

Anyways, Endemol (Big Brother/Secret Story) sued the creator of the show, for "copying" Secret Story and "unfair competitions" etc. and won. W9 was planning on a second season (it actually did well in the ratings), but because of the lawsuit, it was scrapped.
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:35
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Channel 4 are sneaking in a wee Dispatches next week, to stir things up before Cameron faces Leveson:

Monday 8pm - Murdoch, Cameron & the £8bn Deal: Peter Oborne examines how close the Prime Minister got to the Murdoch empire.

Followed by 'Gok Cooks Chinese'
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Old 06-06-2012, 03:40
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It's been confirmed today the BBC is taking Jake Humphrey off F1 this summer so he can concentrate on other work.

He will miss Canada (10 June) and Europe (24 June) due to Euro 2012. Then he will be back to present the British GP on July 8, but will skip Germany (22 July) and Hungary (29 July) due to London 2012.

I can't work out why he's missing Germany.

Lee McKenzie will take his place. She wasn't great last time she hosted the Japanese GP in 2010 when Jake was hosting the Commonwealth Games, but she has been doing Inside F1 on the BBC News Channel and has got the experience and knowledge.

Canada, Germany and Hungary will be highlights. Europe is live.
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Old 06-06-2012, 03:53
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It's been confirmed today the BBC is taking Jake Humphrey off F1 this summer so he can concentrate on other work.

He will miss Canada (10 June) and Europe (24 June) due to Euro 2012. Then he will be back to present the British GP on July 8, but will skip Germany (22 July) and Hungary (29 July) due to London 2012.

I can't work out why he's missing Germany.
There will be an enormous amount of preparation work to do before the Olympics starts so I imagine he wants to be able to concentrate on the Olympics in the week before it starts.

As Germany is only highlights it's not so important that he's there so makes sense to focus on preparing for the Olympics.

Also he'll be working every day during the Olympics so may need a few days off beforehand in addition to doing preparation work.

So all in all it seems entirely understandable to me.
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Old 06-06-2012, 04:18
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The Diamond Jubilee Concert also helped Nine win the night in Australia. Broadcasting from 7.30 until the finish (not sure when that was but when you factor in adverts it will have been maybe aan hour longer than 10.45pm like in England). the concert got 1.12m viewers, and saw rafters sink to 1.15m, and Once Upon a Time fall to 974k.Masterchef was below million also, on 975k. It would be interesting to see what the concert got between say 7.30 and 9.30 (well in excess of 1.5m would be expected surely, considering viewers don't stay up late in Australia)
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Old 06-06-2012, 04:31
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So looking forward to the ratings. Should be even more interesting than usual.

i actually hope the Celebrations do well on all channels.
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