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However, with regard to Sundays in the seventies and eighties, BBC1 only tended to do well if they had a really strong drama like The Onedin Line or one of their biggest sitcoms. Usually on this night ITV would bring on its epics like Jesus of Nazareth or premiere a Bond film( even a repeat of Diamonds Are Forever pulled in 23 million in 1981).
7.15 Period drama 8.05 Film (and in 1982 Omnibus was on at 9.40) I remember Autumn Sundays in the 1980s as being 7.15 Sitcom 7.45 Howard's Way 8.35 Sitcom 9.05 Highbrow drama Howard's Way would hold its own in the ratings against the likes of The Ruth Rendall Mystery whilst the highbrow drama, sometimes under the umberella title Sunday Premiere, would be thrashed in the ratings by the mighty London's Burning. |
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I notice ITV are trailing the new run of Primeval (first shown on Watch) as "The beginning"....... "Of The End".
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I've got two back issues of Radio Times from October 1978 and January 1982 when BBC1's Sunday schedule on both occasions was
7.15 Period drama 8.05 Film (and in 1982 Omnibus was on at 9.40) I remember Autumn Sundays in the 1980s as being 7.15 Sitcom 7.45 Howard's Way 8.35 Sitcom 9.05 Highbrow drama Howard's Way would hold its own in the ratings against the likes of The Ruth Rendall Mystery whilst the highbrow drama, sometimes under the umberella title Sunday Premiere, would be thrashed in the ratings by the mighty London's Burning. The second half of the eighties saw BBC1 on the rampage, while ITV seemed to be worried that its audience was too downmarket and falling and took the axe to such C2DE fare as World of Sport, Crossroads, wrestling and old school variety. |
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Just think a so called minority channel pulling in a bigger audience than the final of TXF.
I'm sure the record for BBC2 was 18.5 million for the final frames of the 1985 Snooker WCF.Away from the sport, a big hitter for them in entertainment was the last series of Not The Nine O'Clock News, 10 million in 1982, and The Young Ones averaged 9 million for its second outing, vital as the BBC's ratings were down to 40 per cent or so. One way BBC1 found of breaking ITV's deadlock on Monday ratings was to move Doctor Who into a Monday slot for the 1982 series. This managed to attract 10 million viewers, but come 7.30 and BBC1 went into its usual Monday deadzone. |
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Memories, i watched that as a kid,first time i ever stayed up late to watch snooker.
Actually BBC1 experimented with several live matches on Fridays from 1983-85, but ratings never exceeded six million and viewers found it unnatural. |
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I've got two back issues of Radio Times from October 1978 and January 1982 when BBC1's Sunday schedule on both occasions was
7.15 Period drama 8.05 Film (and in 1982 Omnibus was on at 9.40) I remember Autumn Sundays in the 1980s as being 7.15 Sitcom 7.45 Howard's Way 8.35 Sitcom 9.05 Highbrow drama Howard's Way would hold its own in the ratings against the likes of The Ruth Rendall Mystery whilst the highbrow drama, sometimes under the umberella title Sunday Premiere, would be thrashed in the ratings by the mighty London's Burning. |
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London's Burning was massive. Got 18m in 1992 and 14-16m consistently until around mid 90s. I know by 1996, ratings were at 12-13m, and the year after (Series 10), ratings were at 11-12m, but ratings just dropped after Paul Knight left and David Newcombe arrived, coupled with the disastrous move to Saturdays.
Meanwhile Auntie's drama efforts were largely dying. Perhaps their biggest and most expensive flop was A Year In Provence which never did more than 4 million. |
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Maybe there should be a "Ratings Thread: Gold", to discuss classic ratings seperately?
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Maybe there should be a "Ratings Thread: Gold", to discuss classic ratings seperately?
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Maybe there should be a "Ratings Thread: Gold", to discuss classic ratings seperately?
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ITV drama was going through a glorious period. Anyone remember Band of Gold about the prostitutes in Bradford that attracted 13 million viewers? Another mega hitter at this time was the more than watchable Peak Practice with 17 million at its peak in 1994. Then it did some cast changes and did a London's Burning.
Meanwhile Auntie's drama efforts were largely dying. Perhaps their biggest and most expensive flop was A Year In Provence which never did more than 4 million. |
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You know you could be right but I think all us older members have enjoyed it.
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A couple of other BBC flops were Westbeach, which was a Casualty replacement shown in Summer 1993, and Seaforth which I think was shown on Sundays in Autumn '94 and was quite well-received but for unknown reasons didn't make it to a second series (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...h-1390558.html)
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Maybe there should be a "Ratings Thread: Gold", to discuss classic ratings seperately?
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I'm not old but I've enjoyed the discussion. ITV's era of dominance on the drama front started to wane by the late 90s. The Bill had a revamp from its half-hour format following falling ratings, London's Burning was also revamped, Peak Practice was axed not long after, Soldier, Soldier didn't seem to recover from the loss of Robson Green and Jerome Flynn.
There was another 50-minute show, same length as Casualty, called 'Harry' which was axed after a while, starring Michael Elphick. One more - No Bananas from 1996, which had an excellent cast including Alison Steadman and Stephanie Beacham but just didn't catch on. |
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A couple of other BBC flops were Westbeach, which was a Casualty replacement shown in Summer 1993, and Seaforth which I think was shown on Sundays in Autumn '94 and was mooted for a second series which didn't materialise (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...h-1390558.html).
On the comedy front the BBC seemed to fare better as Men Behaving Badly, Birds of a Feather , Keeping Up Apperances and One Foot in the Grave pulled in 12-14 million while ITV had no real comedy hits at the time. |
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Then there was some deadly dull drama set in fifties Scotland called Strathblair that didn't do much, Tales of Para Handy, which could have done better as it had Gregor Fisher but fizzled out. Seaforth was a shame as it was quite good, but faltered in the ratings. Actually among these Eldorado doesn't seem to have done so badly and I still think Auntie should have stuck with it.
On the comedy front the BBC seemed to fare better as Men Behaving Badly, Birds of a Feather , Keeping Up Apperances and One Foot in the Grave pulled in 12-14 million while ITV had no real comedy hits at the time. |
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There was another BBC1 drama around 92/93 which was to rival ITV's The Bill..I think it was called The Specials about volunteer Police Officers..it was a right stinker, it was made by Pebble Mill and was filmed around Birmingham and had a load of awful Brummie actors in it..I am a Brummie myself but the accent isn't one of the best...lol
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Then there was some deadly dull drama set in fifties Scotland called Strathblair that didn't do much, Tales of Para Handy, which could have done better as it had Gregor Fisher but fizzled out. Seaforth was a shame as it was quite good, but faltered in the ratings. Actually among these Eldorado doesn't seem to have done so badly and I still think Auntie should have stuck with it.
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There was another BBC1 drama around 92/93 which was to rival ITV's The Bill..I think it was called The Specials about volunteer Police Officers..it was a right stinker, it was made by Pebble Mill and was filmed around Birmingham and had a load of awful Brummie actors in it..I am a Brummie myself but the accent isn't one of the best...lol
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There was another BBC1 drama around 92/93 which was to rival ITV's The Bill..I think it was called The Specials about volunteer Police Officers..it was a right stinker, it was made by Pebble Mill and was filmed around Birmingham and had a load of awful Brummie actors in it..I am a Brummie myself but the accent isn't one of the best...lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkZI1G3zTi4 PS I loved that Ferris Wheel promo. Far away and my favourite BBC1 early 90s seasonal continuity
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ITV had Shelley I suppose as well as Mr. Bean and the first series of Men Behaving Badly was on ITV . One big sitcom you forgot on the BBC was The Vicar of Dibley. BBC2 had Rab C Nesbitt.
The Bill was on fire anyway with 13-14m viewers at the time, until their Friday episode went to Saturday in mid may-93, which didn't do well at all. Ratings dropped to 12m for the normal Tuesday and Thursday episodes in that period, presumably as people just stopped watching. There were a lot of rivals to The Bill - Between the Lines, City Central etc Another huge drama hitter at times could be Taggart, which pulled in 18 million on New Years Day in 1992. Also don't forget at the start of the nineties ITV had a worthwhile Neighbours rival with Home and Away, which was pulling in 15 million, and Aussie soaps were a popular daytime staple. |
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I always wonder what would have happened if Eldorado had been allowed to continue - would it still be going strong 20 years later, or would it have fizzled out after a few years?
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Weekend Multichannel Ratings
Friday 8th June 2012 BBC Three 20:30 - FILM: The Accidental Husband: 519k (2.3%) 22:00 - EastEnders: 716k (3.5%) 22:30 - Russell Howard's Good News Extra: 610k (3.6%) 23:15 - Family Guy: 890k (7.1%) 23:35 - Family Guy: 961k (9.8%) 24:00 - American Dad: 650k (8.4%) 24:20 - American Dad: 670k (11.4%) ITV2 (inc +1) 20:30 - You've Been Framed!: 601k (2.7%) ITV3 (inc +1) 18:50 - Poirot: 554k (2.7%) 20:00 - Midsomer Murders: 1.05m (4.6%) ITV4 (inc +1) 11:30 - French Open Tennis 2012: 0.3m (2.7%) 22:00 - TT 2012: 0.4m (2.1%) Sky1 21:00 - A League of Their Own: 354k (1.5%) * series average: 468k (2.1%) Saturday 9th June 2012 BBC Three 19:50 - FILM: Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End: 1.14m (5.2%) 22:25 - Russell Howard's Good News: 665k (3.9%) 23:00 - Family Guy: 923k (6.3%) 23:20 - Family Guy: 888k (7.2%) 23:45 - American Dad: 755k (7.8%) 24:05 - American Dad: 720k (9.1%) Film4 (inc +1) 21:00 - FILM: Star Trek: 0.6m (2.8%) ITV2 (inc +1) 19:15 - FILM: Mr Bean's Holiday: 607k (2.9%) 21:00 - FILM: The Holiday: 885k (4.7%) ITV3 (inc +1) 21:00 - Susan Boyle: An Unlikely Superstar: 633k (2.8%) 22:00 - Lewis: 679k (4.4%) Sunday 10th June BBC Three 19:40 - FILM: Madagascar: 690k (2.7%) 21:30 - Live at the Apollo: 677k (2.8%) 22:00 - Family Guy: 1.05m (4.9%) 22:20 - Family Guy: 842k (4.6%) E4 (inc +1) 22:00 - Desperate Housewives: 1.26m (6.8%) ITV2 (inc +1) 16:40 - FILM: Nanny McPhee: 866k (4.5%) 18:45 - FILM: E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial: 715k (3.0%) 21:00 - Benidorm: 761k (3.0%) ITV3 (inc +1) 20:00 - Midsomer Murders: 874k (3.5%) ITV4 (inc +1) 16:00 - French Open Tennis 2012: 698k (3.6%) * main body of text says 0.8m (4.1%), so unsure which is right Source: ITV Media I think it's fair to say there were some hefty multichannel shares over the weekend. Thanks to ITV Media as well as they are the only site I think to provide Top 10's for both charts.
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I think the BBC expected too much too soon from Eldorado it was a slow burner, some programmes need time to grow and adapt..but it was awful to start with and that was the nail in the coffin, the acting was more wooden than Epping Forrest, but over time it started to change the acting got a lot better and the storylines heated up a bit and the audience started to grow to around 8 million after falling as low as 4m..if it had been left to grow it could have probably been BBC1's Emmerdale in the sun, but it got slated to start with but I am sure it could have been a lot more sucessful if the BBC had given it another 18 months..but we will never know for sure.
However, on to one soap that will outlive all of us, any predictions for tonight's one hour Coronation St? |
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Excellent rating for Desperate Housewives there. Was a great episode.
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Excellent rating for Desperate Housewives there. Was a great episode.
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Excellent rating for Desperate Housewives there. Was a great episode.
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