I don't now think it was Cyprus but it's a pity I wasn't monitoring the Ikasu radio at the time but I had been out and only just sat down when the rds said CY FM.
Also I can't find any reference to a tx on 87.7 so that makes it dubious anyway thanks for taking the time to look at it.

Andy

Earlier John (skywaves) suggested using fm list for logging dx so I have had a go and at first I got stuck but persevering with I have finally worked out how it works.

It certainly makes logging a lot easier so thanks to John as you will see today's log below.


2012-06-13
MHz UTC ITU Program + Location Details Remarks km
87.70 1251 ANTENA 1, PORTUGAL
87.60 1346 UNID,
87.70 1432 E Hit FM, Jerez de la Frontera/San Cristóbal(AND-CA) 1894 km
87.50 1435 E esRadio, Dos Hermanas/Mataquinto (AND-SE)1815 km
87.50 1436 E Loca FM, Salamanca (CAL-SA) 1411 km
87.60 1507 E COPE, Badajoz (EXT-BA 1658 km
87.60 1531 ALG Chaîne 3, Kef El Akhal (25) 2036 km

Note:You will have to take the tx with a pinch of salt because I can't id the PI codes so I select the highest powered tx.

Andy

Andy.

Forgive me for being so bold but it doesn't work like that.

On FM List you will find the Worldwide Visual Logbook. When you study that you can get a rough idea of how the E skip paths work. It can still be on the hit and miss side but you can actually see some patterns.

It is wrong to assume that you have the highest power transmitter. It is just as likely that you could have received a low power repeater. Sporadic E can propagate really lower power transmitters such that you have them full scale on your receiver. Never assume anything.

John

Sorry Nick I forgot to mention yes the denon is wide and I intend to change the filters when I get time as have some sil sockets so I can plug them in.

Andy

Sporadic E:
87.5 0511 I Radio Base Agro Stereo, Corbara/Valico di Chiunzi (sa) 540B _R_B____ Unattended 1752 km **
87.5 0513 I Radio Italia Solo Musica Italiana, Ercolano-Vesuvio/Area Osservatorio (na) 5220 R_ITALIA Unattended 1730 km
87.5 0543 I RDS - Radio Dimensione Suono, Capo d'Orlando/Monte San Martino (me) 5264 __RDS___ Unattended 2000 km
87.9 0752 F BFM Business, Toulon/Cap Sicié (83) F227 __BFM___ 1195 km **
88.3 0753 ALG Radio El Tarf, Oum Ali (36) Arabic OM music, as web stream 1934 km **
88.4 0757 F Radio Galère, Marseille/le Petit Sanguin (13) FA4A GALERE__ 1148 km
89.2 0758 F RFM, Marseille/Grande Etoile (13) F212 __RFM___ 1149 km **
90.0 0758 F Skyrock, Marseille/Petite Etoile (13) F214 SKYROCK_ 1148 km **
91.7 0759 F France Inter, Marseille/le Pomègues (13) F201 __INTER_ 1158 km **
87.6 0813 ALG Chaîne 3, Kef El Akhal (25) Persistent! 1927 km
89.1 0814 F France Inter, Montpellier/Tour de Bionne (34) F201 __INTER_ 1092 km **
89.9 0814 F Rire et Chansons, Montpellier/LAM tour Cambon 2 (34) F226 Vocal ID 1088 km
90.2 0815 F France Bleu Gard Lozère, Nîmes/les Capitelles (30) F207 BLEUGARD 1073 km **
91.8 0817 F Fun Radio, Montpellier/Tour de Bionne (34) F217 __F_U_N_ 1092 km **
91.1 0818 F France Culture, Ganges/Roc Blanc TDF (34) F202. Only Culture listed 1060 km **
91.0 0819 F FM Plus, Montpellier/Blanquette (34) F360 FM Plus 1088 km **
89.4 0821 F France Inter, Montpellier/Sainte-Baudille (34) F201 __INTER_ 1072 km **
90.4 0821 ALG Radio Setif, Meghriss (19) Arabic music, as web stream 1911 km
88.6 0822 E IB 3 Ràdio, Es Mercadal/El Toro (BAL-MN) E2A3 IB3RADIO 1492 km **
89.2 0822 F France Inter, Le Vigan/Tessonne (30) YL, as 89.4 1049 km **
93.5 0823 ALG Chaîne 1, Meghriss (19) YLs, as web stream 1911 km
92.0 0828 F France Musique, Bédarieux/Pic de Tantajo (34) F203 1083 km **
87.8 0831 E Onda Rambla Música, Figueres (CAT-GI) E000 _RAMBLA__ _MUSICA_ __87.8__ EMPORDA_ 1226 km **
91.4 0833 E Onda Cero, Es Mercadal/El Toro (BAL-MN) E8EE Vocal ID 1492 km **
91.8 0834 ALG Chaîne 2, Akfadou (6) YL song, as web stream 1867 km
95.2 0839 E Catalunya Ràdio, Es Mercadal/El Toro (BAL-MN) OMs discussion, as web stream 1492 km **
95.4 0840 E RNE R.Clásica, Alcúdia/Puig de Son Sant Martí (BAL-ML) E212 RNE-CLAS 1495 km **
97.1 0840 E RNE R.Clásica, Es Mercadal/El Toro (BAL-MN) E212 RNE-CLAS 1492 km **
96.7 0841 E Catalunya Música, Rocacorba (CAT-GI) E232 CATMUSIC 1244 km
87.9 0842 E RNE R.Clásica, Bunyola/Alfabia (BAL-ML) E212 RNE-CLAS 1503 km
89.0 0845 E Radio Inter, Inca/Puig de Santa Magdalena (BAL-ML) Vocal ID. No apparent RDS 1505 km **
90.2 0847 E Radio RM, Cabrils/Montcabrer (CAT-B) E289 1298 km **
90.2 0847 ALG Chaîne 1, Dirah (10) OM and YL, as web stream 1915 km
90.2 0849 E Radio Sant Vicenç, Sant Vicenç dels Horts (CAT-B) E015 __RADIO_ __VIC___ __90.3_FM 1313 km **
91.5 0851 ALG Radio El Bahdja, Chréa (9) Vocal ID 1872 km
92.0 0857 E Catalunya Informació, Barcelona/Collserola (CAT-B) E234 CATINFO_ 1311 km **
92.0 0858 E Onda Cero, Granada/San Gabriel (AND-GR) E2EE Granada ID 1800 km **
92.2 0859 F Canal Sud, Toulouse/60 Rue d'Assalit (31) F695 CANALSUD 1065 km **
107.6 0900 E Radio Gelida, Gelida (CAT-B) E038 _GELIDA_ 1308 km
97.2 0903 ALG Chaîne 3, Aflou (3) Nasal OM, as web stream 2120 km **
94.7 0904 E Radio Andalucía Información, Archidona/El Conjuro (AND-MA) E333 Vocal ID 1821 km **
90.6 0912 MRC SNRT Al Idaâ Al-Watania, Tétouan/Hafa Safa (ttn) 1001 SNRT-NAT 2014 km
87.8 0914 MRC Atlantic Radio, Tétouan/Hafa Safa (ttn) YLs, as web stream 2014 km
87.7 0930 E Hit FM, Jerez de la Frontera/San Cristóbal (AND-CA) E200 HIT_FM__ 1904 km
87.9 0931 E SER, Morón de la Frontera (AND-SE) E03F 1838 km
91.5 0933 E Europa FM, Esparragosa de Lares/Sierra del Castillo (EXT-BA) Vocal ID 1628 km **
92.6 0938 E Cadena Dial, Alcalá de los Gazules (AND-CA) E114 DIAL____ LA_JANDA 1914 km
93.0 0940 E ABC Punto Radio, Sigüenza (CAM-GU) E1E2 ABCPUNTO 1359 km **
87.6 0950 E COPE, Badajoz (EXT-BA) E2CA __COPE__ 1682 km
87.9 0950 E Canal Extremadura Radio, Mérida/Cerro de San Serván (EXT-BA) E30A 1670 km **
88.4 0953 E Radio Giralda, Sevilla/Pino Montano (AND-SE) E1DF GIRALDA_ SEVILLA_ 1821 km **
88.0 0959 E RNE R.5 TN, Punta Umbría (AND-H) E215 RNE_5-H_ 1861 km
88.0 1340 E Radio Galega Música, Valga/Monte Xesteiras (GAL-PO) E4E1 RGMUSICA Unattended 1338 km
87.7 1424 POR RDP Antena 1, Serra do Mendro (bej) 8201 1770 km
88.1 1430 POR Rádio Comercial, Monchique/Fóia (agv) 8203 COMRCIAL 1890 km
89.6 1434 POR RFM, Faro/São Miguel-Goldra (agv) 8231 Jingle ID 1893 km
90.4 1439 POR Antena Sul-Rádio Jornal, Almodôvar/Pico do Mu (bej) 84DE 1871 km
91.5 1439 POR RDP Antena 2, Monchique/Fóia (agv) 8202 ANTENA_2 1890 km
92.0 1442 POR Rádio Comercial, Serra do Mendro (bej) Vocal ID 1770 km **
92.5 1442 POR RCB-Rádio Cova da Beira, Fundão/Serra da Gardunha (cab) Vocal ID 1566 km **
93.4 1449 POR RDP Antena 2, Faro/São Miguel-Goldra (agv) 8202 1893 km
95.5 1456 POR Antena Sul-Rádio Jornal, Viana do Alentejo (evo) 84DE ANT._SUL 1767 km
96.8 1458 POR Rádio Comercial, Grândola (set) 8203 1802 km
97.4 1459 POR Rádio Comercial, Lisboa/Monsanto (lis) 8203 1760 km
95.9 1500 POR Rádio Sines, Sines (set) 80BF _R-SINES 1830 km **
96.4 1501 POR RDP Antena 1, Fundão/Serra da Gardunha (cab) 8201 ANTENA_1 1566 km
98.2 1505 POR Rádio Comercial, Fundão/Serra da Gardunha (cab) 8203 1566 km
98.7 1505 POR Rádio Baía, Seixal (set) 8019 1769 km **
95.3 1506 POR Tropical FM, Moita (set) Vocal ID 1761 km
96.6 1508 POR Star FM, Lisboa/Monsanto (lis) 8049 Vocal ID 1760 km **
97.7 1509 POR Rádio Difusão Brigantina, Bragança (bgc) 8468 1368 km **
99.2 1510 POR RDP Antena 1, Grândola (set) Sports, as web stream 1802 km
100.3 1510 POR RDP Antena 3, Lisboa/Monsanto (lis) OM, as web stream 1760 km
100.6 1511 POR Rádio Amália, Setúbal (set) 8407 _AMALIA_ 1773 km
100.8 1512 POR Torres Novas FM, Torres Novas (san) 8018 1664 km
100.8 1512 POR Rádio SWtmn, Almada (set) 8006 _S--MN__ 1766 km
101.1 1513 POR UNID, 8473. Had this last year too. Suspect Radio Sim from Braga
101.7 1514 POR Rádio Pernes, Santarém (san) 8424 R.PERNES 1696 km **
102.9 1515 POR Rádio Cartaxo, Cartaxo (san) 8081 __RTAX__ 1702 km **
102.8 1517 POR Cidade FM, Viseu (vis) 844C 1520 km **
103.0 1518 POR Smooth FM, Barreiro (set) 843F _SMOOTH_ 1764 km **
103.1 1518 POR Total FM, Loulé (agv) 8343 _T______ 1893 km **
103.4 1519 POR Rádio Renascença, Fundão/Serra da Gardunha (cab) 8221 ___RR___ 1566 km
103.7 1520 POR Rádio Canção Nova, Ourém (san) 8005 1644 km
103.9 1521 POR Sesimbra FM, Sesimbra (set) 80BA 1787 km **
104.3 1521 POR M80 Rádio, Lisboa/Monsanto (lis) 8332 __M80___ 1760 km
104.8 1522 POR Super FM, Alcochete (set) 8086 SUPER_FM 1751 km **
87.9 1523 POR RDP Antena 1, Serra de São Domingos (vrl) 8201 1468 km
88.2 1524 POR Ultra FM, Vila Franca de Xira (lis) 80E8 ULTRA_FM 1731 km
89.0 1525 POR Rádio Comercial, Leiria/Maunça (lei) 8203 1649 km
89.5 1525 POR TSF Rádio Notícias, Lisboa/Monsanto (lis) 8343 _T_S_F__ 1760 km
89.9 1526 POR RFM, Arrábida (set) 8231 ___RFM___ 1778 km
90.6 1527 POR Mega FM, Gondomar (prt) 844E 1486 km **
91.0 1528 POR Rádio Nostalgia, Vila Nova de Gaia/Monte da Virgem (prt) 80C4 __TALG__ 1496 km **
91.2 1530 POR Rádio Clube de Sintra, Sintra (lis) 803A 1759 km
91.4 1531 POR Iris FM, Benavente (san) 801B _IRIS_FM 1722 km
91.7 1532 POR RFM, Lousã/Trevim (coi) 8231 __RFM___ 1588 km
91.3 1533 POR RDP Antena 1, Braga/Sameiro (bra) 8201 ANTENA_1 1445 km **
92.5 1533 POR RDP Antena 2, Porto/Monte da Virgem (prt) 8202 ____NA__ 1496 km
92.9 1535 POR Mega FM, Braga (bra) 844E MEGAHITS 1448 km
92.4 1537 POR Mega FM, Lisboa/Monsanto (lis) 844E 1760 km **
93.2 1539 POR RFM, Lisboa/Monsanto (lis) 8231 __RFM___ 1760 km
93.7 1539 POR Rádio Renascença, Porto/Monte da Virgem (prt) 8221 1496 km
94.0 1541 POR Rádio Duoro Sul, Lamego (vis) Sports, as web stream 1472 km **
94.2 1543 POR +Oeste Rádio, Cadaval/Serra Montejunto (lis) 80DD _+OESTE_ 1710 km
94.4 1543 POR RDP Antena 2, Lisboa/Monsanto (lis) 8202 ANTENA_2 1760 km
95.0 1545 POR 95FM (Rádio Miramar), Oeiras (lis) Vocal ID as web stream 1769 km
95.8 1550 POR Rádio Fundaçao, Guimarães (bra) OM talk, as web stream 1454 km **
97.7 1551 POR Rádio Comercial, Porto/Monte da Virgem (prt) Jingle ID 1496 km **
98.7 1555 POR Antena Vareira, Ovar (avo) Very odd audio, exactly as web stream 1523 km **
99.4 1556 E Los 40 Principales, Vigo/Monte Faro Domayo (GAL-PO) E435 1378 km **
100.6 1559 E SER, Vigo - Moaña/Monte Domaio (GAL-PO) E439 ____VIGO 1378 km **
101.3 1600 POR Rádio Nova Era, Vila Nova de Gaia/Monte da Virgem (prt) 8053 __va____ 1496 km **
101.4 1600 E RNE R.Clásica, Carballo (GAL-C) E212 RNE-CLAS 1298 km **
103.1 1601 E Si Radio, As Neves/Monte Nomedio (GAL-PO) E250 Si Radio vocal ID 1386 km **
103.8 1602 E Radio Voz, Vigo/Monte Faro Domayo (GAL-PO) E2A2 RADIOVOZ 1378 km **
105.1 1603 E M 80, Pontevedra (GAL-PO) E042 PONTM80_ 1363 km **
87.8 1604 E COPE, Vigo - Moaña/Monte Domaio (GAL-PO) E2CA __COPE__ 1378 km
88.1 1605 E Radio María, Vigo - Moaña/Monte Domaio (GAL-PO) E1CC R.MARIA_ 1378 km
90.6 1607 E Los 40 Principales, Santiago de Compostela (GAL-C) E235 CUARENTA 1320 km
89.1 1608 E Los 40 Principales, Pontevedra/Monte Castrove (GAL-PO) C0EA As 90.6 1361 km
90.0 1609 E Los 40 Principales, Lumbrales (CAL-SA) E235 Pops, as 90.6. ID 1458 km **
91.4 1611 E Cadena Dial, Pontevedra/Monte Castrove (GAL-PO) E062 ___DIAL_ PONTEDRA 1361 km **
91.8 1613 E Radio Intereconomía, Santiago de Compostela (GAL-C) E256 ECONOM__ 1315 km **
91.8 1613 E Los 40 Principales, Lugo (GAL-LU) E035 1271 km **
92.1 1614 E Radio Galega Música, Monte Meda (GAL-OU) E4E1 RGMUSICA 1337 km
92.6 1614 E Radio Voz, La Coruña (GAL-C) E2C5 RADIOVOZ 1266 km **
92.9 1615 E UNID, E62D FORMULA_
93.7 1617 E RNE R.5 TN, Santiago de Compostela/Monte Pedroso (GAL-C) E815 RN____C_ 1315 km **
87.9 1623 E Kiss FM, Ares (GAL-C) E2EC KISS_FM_ 1250 km

** Personal Skegness 'First' via Es

What a great day for Es again! Southern France and northern Spain once more! Despite the same areas coming in as yesterday I still received many of new stations and sites.

There was a Portuguese takeover mid-afternoon when I logged almost 60 Portuguese stations in a row! Portugal has to be one of my favourite DX countries because of the number of local stations which can get through. This was probably my best Portuguese day to date!

Recordings:
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3

Good DX!

John
Skegness, Lincolnshire (JO03dd) 1m ASL

Receivers:
Sony XDR-F1HD (tropospheric)
Kenwood KT6040 (sporadic E & meteor scatter)
Tecsun PL390 (OIRT)
Conrad RDS Manager

Aerials:
Rooftop Triax FM5, 8m AGL
Yaesu G-5500 azimuthal/elevation rotator

Software:
RDS Spy v0.97
VAC v4.10

Sorry John I did not see this post last night and things are beginning to come more clear thanks to your help.
Looking at the Worldwide Visual Logbook I can see the signal paths.
When I received COPE on the RDS it said Badajoz and on the tx list it said COPE,Badajoz so I assume that would the area name so looking at the rest of signal paths of the tx's I had selected were from the same area.

Thanks to your help things are becoming more clearer but I am sure there's more I have not found yet.
As I said earlier this makes life easier logging wise but also you can work out via the WVL where the signals are coming from very neat.

The FM-DX is new to me as I have only been doing for a couple of years and is different (equipment wise) from TV-DX although the principals are the same.

We will see what today brings.

Andy

Sitting at home sneezing at my computer today so I thought I might have a stab at identifying this one. The singing to me sounds very much Middle Eastern (I'm sure it's not a Slavic language, so unless it's a station aimed at the Turkish minority that's Bulgaria out the window).

In Romania and Albania there don't seem to be any obvious candidates on 90.5, and Greek folk music sounds quite different. It could possibly be Hungarian: there's Radio Novi Sad 2 on 90.5 (in Serbia, but in Hungarian) which has a programme on at the right time on Saturdays called "Culture", but to me the singing just sounds too Middle Eastern for that.

In Turkey there are dozens of stations, but I had a hunch that this sort of music wouldn't be on commercial radio, so checked the schedule of TRT Radio 1 which has a high power TX on 90.5 (Izmit/Kar Tepe, 30kW)... and the schedule for this Saturday at 2:03PM says:

"İki Solistten Türküler" - which appears to be a live folk music programme, with two singers of traditional songs in Turkish.

http://www.trt.net.tr/Radyo/RDAkis.aspx

Will probably never know for certain, though.

That's usually the case. If you click on the transmitter site "Location" in the list you will get a popup which lists any other stations broadcasting from that site, so you can often confirm the transmitter site. You also get another table listing nearby stations which you could try for.

Another way to find the site (for those with full RDS capabilities) is to read the AF list (Alternative Frequencies) in the RDS data. This gives you nearby transmitters and so usually points to a particular site or area.

The paths on the Worldwide Visual Logbook show how signals tend to be received along the line as opposed to either side of it. You can watch an opening moves which often gives further clues about the area you might receive next.

One thing I always find interesting is how another DXer a couple of hundred miles from me received different DX but from the same Es cloud. His path can be seen to traverse the existing path at an angle, throwing more light on where the Es cloud is and what effects it might have. The 6m map on DX Sherlock also highlights this phenomenon perfectly.

FM List becomes your permanant logbook (I keep a back-up though, just in case) which saves writing on scraps of paper, then at the end of each day it's so simple to copy and paste your log into a post on here.

As I've said before, without FM List I wouldn't have logged a tenth of the stations I have had here. I admit to being a 'collector' in this hobby. Once I've logged a station I quickly move on to the next. I rarely stop on a station and actually listen to it.

Anyway, repeating myself a little here. I just feel the need to promote FM List because it is an excellent service to the hobby.

http://www.fmlist.org

John

I agree with what John has said I wish I had done this long ago as it's so easy once you get to grips with it.

Going back 30 years we had when TV-DXing we had to refer to books and magazines and word of mouth no pc's or internet back then but today it's a different world.

Andy

I started FM-DXing in October 2011 - and going back 40 years(!) to my main TV-DX days we didn't have day time TV - so there were testcards. I remember back in Sept 1974 - finding a weak PM5544 testcard at 07:30 and watching it get gradually stronger until "SVERIGE" was clear in nice big letters.Then the German transmitters all had their own 'testcards' very often the town's coat of arms or something like that - with the location clear on it "eg Munster". And we didn't have electronic hash wiping out all the weak signals. And back in those days I'm sure Sp-E rarely reached Band II - or more likely there were so few stations transmitting. And echoing what John (Skywaves) has said - I've logged stations via Sp-E -- that are only 50 watts - no doubt about when it is the only one matching transmitter.

Now you are using FM List - you can start hunting down the internet web streams - I use "www.listenlive.eu" - for tropo it is relativley easy to guess the most likely country and then find out if the transmitter you are receiving matches. I've found this invaluable for weaker stations. Tropo is relatively easy for me as it is french, dutch/flemish or german - and if its not its going to be Denmark or a scandananian tongue.

Hope you are finding it a fascinating as I am.

David

Sittingbourne.

Thanks smorris.

I sent the clip to a DXer in Istanbul and he said that the music wasn't Turkish but Balkan, and the language possibly Greek. So it doesn't look like it was from TRT. Maybe it was Studio Lefkata from Lefkas island? I'm sure when I heard them a few years ago they were playing Greek folk music. Or possibly Radio Novi Sad 2 as you suggested.

I was thinking about this the other day, DXing in the old days was great, but nowadays it is a lot easier. Reason is the internet of course. Example, if you are receiving a station that has no RDS (like Algeria) & need to ID fast, check the webstream & if it matches there you go. Cannot ID? Then send your recording to a hosting website, provide the link, then somebody else from anywhere in the world will tell you exactly the station & country. Also the technology is cheaper, the ST-SB 920 can now be bought at very cheap prices on Ebay, whereas in the past it cost a lot more at full retail price. And what about RDS Spy? An enormous help for me this season, I am receiving more than I thought thanks to the Super PI Code function when full RDS is not received by the tuner & the ability to use the Mic + Line inputs rather than the COM port. Of course it was more exciting to be DXing back then because there were no webstreams or internet at all. Although now you can find out instantly what you are getting which also provides more enthusiasm.
Regarding TV DXing, I think it still holds a lot of interest even if Europe is almost digital. With so many analogue carriers closed, it is more possible to get signals from Africa, the Middle East, Russia & south America in Europe. So some downsides but also some positives to be gained.

Europe being digital doesn't stop tv dxing under tropo. I know it's not as easy as analogue but it's still possible to pull in French, Belguim, German , Danish and possibly even Norweigan and Swedish muxes in the uk.

Definitely, like that time when UK viewers were "accidentally" receiving French digital a few months ago during the strong tropo. Its only if you wanted to receive something outside of Europe you can catch more signals than in previous years.

Portugal and Spain on the bottom of FM now.

Good DX!

John
Skegness, Lincolnshire

Thessalonika stations weak but instant RDS up to 89 MHz.

Good DX!

John

The band is buzzing here portugal/spain /france I have been altering my equipment and have just got it sorted out.

I switch both my pc's and they both hung on boot what the **** is going on here.
I know the old pc has badcaps and it does this now and again but not my new one as it's 2 years old oh well they are working now.

Dx sherlock has gone for a burton this morning as I can't get the page up.

Anyway signals have gone here lets hope there's more to come


Andy

Try this one Andy.

http://www.tvcomm.co.uk/radio/muf.html

It's an excellent alternative. In fact some DXers are using this as their main early warning cluster lately.

John

Thanks John that will do nicely I did have an unid on 87.5 for some while but that has gone now.

Stafford fm went of air yesterday only to replaced by Cheshire
Motor Pageant event until sunday but no problem as it's low and spe wipes it out.

I am very impressed the way these dipoles are working but I must get on up on the roof when the weather decides to behave.

Andy

I am just listening to the Cheshire Motor Pageant and can hear lightning flashes and I have heard thunder and looking at the lighting map we have had 2 plenty over Yorkshire and lincolnshire so I hope it doesn't come this way.

Andy

Spain and italy were up strong again this morning. This has been the longest lasting eskip I've experienced.

Whilst I was out this morning RDSSpy logged the following on 87.6 MHz


MHz UTC ITU Program + Location Details Remarks km
87.60 1024 ROU Radio Vocea Speran, Craiova unattended reception PI:E2F8 rollingPS:Radio Vocea Speran...1881 km
87.60 1029 BUL BNR Radio Shumen, Shumen/RRTS Venets (shm) unattended PI:8236 PS:SHUMEN__ 2136 km
87.60 1044 HNG Gong Rádió, Csongrád (Cso) unattended PI:B996 PS:__GONG__ 1500 km
87.60 1051 HNG Neo FM, Györ - Szabad hegy (Gyo) unattended PI:B206 PS:_NEO_FM_ 1284 km

Between 0900 and 0902 Italy RAI PI:5201 was received - but not possible to determine transmitter location.

I'm getting the hang of more of the funtionality in RDSSpy - firstly to tick the box for time stamping recordings. Actually that's the second thing - the first thing is remembering to set the recording going. As the reports only give a snapshot it seems to me - or several snapshots if the station fades in and out and triggers a new report. Then when examining the recording afterwards to use the group analyser to read of the two character PS groups in the right hand column. With a less than perfect signal you can play 'hangman' by picking out the available character groups and if they can form a full PS group for cross-checking with FMList..

David

Sittingbourne

Congratulations Dave.

Some nice catches there. RDS Spy is an amazing piece of software. Have you ever tried to understand the AF lists? I find them a bit complicated to be honest but have occasionally been successful in working out which transmitter I have had, but I have needed help with this on occasion.

It's yet another excellent DX weapon we have in our armoury. I just long for the day when we have a good band 2 SDR which has RDS detection which rivals that of RDS Spy's. Of course we will then need more hours in the day to analyse the files!

Good DX!

John

Sporadic E:
87.5 0804 I Radio Maria, Sant’Antioco/Monte Cresia (ci) 51CC R.MARIA_ 1684 km
87.6 0830 E Candil Radio, Huércal de Almería (AND-AL) EB02 1821 km
88.0 0844 E RNE R.5 TN, Sierra de Mijas/Monte Viego (AND-MA) E215 RNE_5-MA 1879 km
89.0 0845 E RNE R.Nacional, Antequera (AND-MA) E211 1833 km
88.2 0848 TUN RTT Radio Kef, Djebel ech Chambi (kas) 7208 KEF_____ 2100 km
87.7 0849 E Europa FM, Priego de Cordoba (AND-CO) E2ED EUROPAFM 1778 km
88.2 0850 E RNE R.Nacional, Madrid/Torrespaña (MAD-M) E211 RNE_1___ 1447 km
88.5 0851 E Radio María, Guadalajara (CAM-GU) E1CC R.MARIA_ 1419 km **
88.6 0853 E RNE R.Nacional, Plasencia/Sierra de Santa Bárbara (EXT-CC) E211 RNE_1___ 1538 km
89.0 0854 E M 80, Madrid/Parque de la Almudena (MAD-M) E230 1447 km
89.4 0856 E Cadena 100, Sierra de Mijas/Monte Viego (AND-MA) E2CE 1879 km
87.7 0857 POR RDP Antena 1, Serra do Mendro (bej) 8201 1770 km
87.6 0858 E COPE, Badajoz (EXT-BA) E2CA __COPE__ Local ads 1682 km
87.6 0900 ALG Chaîne 3, Kef El Akhal (25) Ads going over the hour, as web stream 1927 km
87.7 0901 ALG Radio Chlef, Aïn N'sour (48) French news about Algeria 1913 km
89.6 0903 POR RFM, Faro/São Miguel-Goldra (agv) 8231 __RFM___ 1893 km
90.4 0903 POR Antena Sul-Rádio Jornal, Almodôvar/Pico do Mu (bej) 84DE ANT._SUL 1871 km
90.6 0904 POR RDP Antena 2, Grândola (set) 8202 1802 km
91.1 0904 POR RDP Antena 2, Serra do Mendro (bej) 8202 ANTENA_2 1770 km
92.0 0905 POR Rádio Comercial, Serra do Mendro (bej) 8203 1770 km
94.7 0909 POR Rádio Voz do Sorraia, Coruche (san) 80EA RSORRAIA 1716 km
87.9 0910 POR RDP Antena 1, Lousã/Trevim (coi) 8201 1588 km
88.4 0910 POR RDP Antena 1, Serra de Ossa (evo) Echoey talk, as 87.7 87.9 1713 km
88.5 0912 POR Rádio Clube de Arganil, Arganil (coi) 84E7 Local ads 1571 km
89.0 0914 I Radio Nostalgia, Sinnai/Loc. La Baita (ca) 588D NOSTLGIA 1681 km
89.3 0915 POR RDP Antena 2, Lousã/Trevim (coi) 8202 _______2 1588 km **
89.5 0915 TUN RTT Radio Culture, Bizerte/Djebel Kochbata (biz) 7212 CULTURE_ 1933 km
90.0 0917 TUN Oxygène FM, Bizerte/Djebel Kochbata (biz) Presume. Arabic YL 1933 km **
90.5 0919 I Radio Studio 2000, Santu Lussurgiu/Punta Badde Urbara (or) 5499 ST._2000 1576 km **
90.7 0919 I RAI Radio1, Sinnai/Monte Serpeddi (RAI) (ca) 5201 _RADIO1_ 1678 km **
90.7 0920 I Mondoradio, Sassari/Monte Oro (ss) 5000 MONDORAD 1513 km **
91.3 0921 I RAI Radio1, Santu Lussurgiu/Punta Badde Urbara (RAI) (or) 5201 _RADIO1_ 1575 km
91.7 0921 I Radio Margherita, Sassari/Monte Oro (ss) 5242 1513 km **
92.0 0922 TUN RTT R.Tunis Chaîne Int., Djebel Zaghouan (zag) 7202 2016 km
92.4 0923 I RTL 102.5, Sinnai/Monte Serpeddi (ca) 5218 RTL102.5 1678 km **
92.6 0924 I Radio Antenna 2000, Sassari/Monte Oro (ss) 5258 _A_2000_ 1513 km **
93.3 0925 I RAI Radio2, Santu Lussurgiu/Punta Badde Urbara (RAI) (or) 5202 _RADIO2_ 1575 km
93.6 0926 POR RDP Antena 1, Montargil (ple) 8201 1694 km **
93.9 0927 POR Antena 1, Unlilsted 8201
93.9 0929 POR Rádio Mirasado, Alcácer do Sal (set) 80CA MIRA__DO 1777 km
94.2 0931 I RDS - Radio Dimensione Suono, Porto Torres/Monte Alvaro (ss) 5264 *_RDS_*_ 1501 km
95.5 0932 I Radio Sportiva, Sassari/Monte Oro (ss) 5244 SPORTIVA 1513 km **
96.6 0933 I Radio Super Sound, Serrenti/Monti Mannu (md) 5659 SUXSOUND 1652 km **
88.0 0934 I Radiolina, Sassari/Monte Oro (ss) 544B RDIOLINA 1513 km **
88.1 0935 I Radio Studio 2000, Arbus/Conca 'e su Monti (md) Vocal ID 1640 km **
88.0 0938 GRC NET 105,8, Thessaloniki/Hortiatis (cmc-tsk) 1201 ERT_NET_ 2208 km
87.6 0939 GRC Laikos 87.6, Thessaloniki/Hortiatis (cmc-tsk) 00A8 __LAIKOS 2208 km
88.2 0940 POR RDP Antena 1, Viseu (vis) Echoey OM, as 87.9 1522 km
87.8 0941 GRC Radio Mahitis, Kilkis/Nea Santa (cmc-kil) 1004 ___www__ maxitis_ ___.gr__ 2180 km **
89.0 0946 GRC 89 Rainbow, Thessaloniki/Hortiatis (cmc-tsk) Jingle ID 2208 km
88.2 1005 BUL BNR Hristo Botev, Belogradcik/RRTS Karneva livada (vdn) 8220 1951 km **
88.4 1008 SRB Radio Marija, Unlisted site 61CC. German religious song **
87.6 1028 BUL Radio Romantika, Sofia/kv. Gorna banya (sfg) 8069 Bulgarian love song, as web stream 2051 km **
87.5 1032 SRB Narodni Radio, Beograd/Zeleni Venac (Srb) Presumed. YL pops, mentioning Beograd 1728 km
88.3 1034 HRV HRT-HR 1, Vinkovci/Borinci (vu) C201 HRT-HRT_1 1590 km
88.6 1036 HNG Tenkes Radio, Siklós (Bar) B980 Robbie Willams, as web stream 1525 km **
91.7 1039 BUL BNR Hristo Botev, Plovdiv/RRTS Zdravets (pld) 8220 2194 km **
92.5 1039 SRB Radio B92, Beograd/Torlak (Srb) D25C __B_92__ 1739 km
92.9 1040 BUL BNR Hristo Botev, Sofia/Kopitoto-KRTTS Vitosa (sfg) 8220 2056 km
93.6 1041 ? UNID, 6ACC
97.6 1044 SRB Radio Beograd 2/3, Avala (Srb) D2F6 RTS_BG_2 1740 km
98.5 1046 SRB Hit Music FM, Avala (Srb) 5000 HITMUSIC 1740 km **
99.1 1046 HRV Soundset Gradski Radio, Osijek (os) C408 GRADSKI_ 1568 km **
107.9 1048 SRB Radio Antena Beograd, Beograd/Beogradanka Skyscraper (Srb) D0E0 ANTENA_ 1729 km
107.6 1051 HNG MR 3 Bartok Radio, Pécs-Misinatetö (Bar) B202 1503 km **
107.8 1052 SRB Guess FM, Unlisted site Vocal IDs in station promo **
106.8 1057 ? UNID, 1068
91.2 1059 HNG Enjoy Radio, Kaposvár (Som) B822 Vocal ID 1460 km **

** Personal Skegness 'First' via Es

Two hours of steady Es yesterday morning, mostly at the bottom of the band.

The Balkan takeover which started around 1008 was impressive. I have never experienced “Balkan Soup” before but the whole band became alive with mushy pile-ups which made it difficult to get the RDS. Italy was nowhere to be seen at the time.

A DXer on the south coast also had Lebanon on 88.0 around the time of the Greek opening. I think I also had this as a PI code with prefix 9 appeared on 88.0 at that time. Unfortunately ERT Net from Greece instantly wiped it out and it did not store in RDS Spy. I haven't heard Lebanon here though Tim B and I once had it on a Suffolk DX trip in 2001. The stations were 87.8 Nostalgie (now Radio SAWA I believe) and 88.0 Nostalgie.

Recordings:

http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3 (presumed)
http://www.g1vvp.co.uk/fm-dx-recordi...06-12_(JF).mp3 (updated link)

Good DX!

John
Skegness, Lincolnshire (JO03dd) 1m ASL

Receivers:
Sony XDR-F1HD (tropospheric)
Kenwood KT6040 (sporadic E & meteor scatter)
Icom IC7000 (OiRT)
Conrad RDS Manager

Aerials:
Rooftop Triax FM5, 8m AGL
Yaesu G-5500 azimuthal/elevation rotator

Software:
RDS Spy v0.97
VAC v4.10

John, did you get the Lebanon PI code on 88.0 yesterday morning? If so, then the logging in Sussex was on the 10th June, last Sunday.

Might have to try for this one if it's already appeared twice in the last week. We are now in the period when multi-hop Es are at their best.

Congrats on a super logging if it was Nostalgie Lebanon.