What then?
What if the 50th anniversary ISN'T a multiple Doctor story?
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It probably won't. Arrogant Moffat will want it to be all about his era, it will feature River, the Silence and how the Tardis blew up in series 5.
No Daleks, no Davros, no Time Lords, no past Doctors or companions nothing!
No Daleks, no Davros, no Time Lords, no past Doctors or companions nothing!
Originally Posted by Scorpio2:
“It probably won't. Arrogant Moffat will want it to be all about his era, it will feature River, the Silence and how the Tardis blew up in series 5.
No Daleks, no Davros, no Time Lords, no past Doctors or companions nothing!”
“It probably won't. Arrogant Moffat will want it to be all about his era, it will feature River, the Silence and how the Tardis blew up in series 5.
No Daleks, no Davros, no Time Lords, no past Doctors or companions nothing!
”
The same Moffat who has had bountiful references to Classic Who during his era?
Originally Posted by CD93:
“The same Moffat who has had bountiful references to Classic Who during his era?”
“The same Moffat who has had bountiful references to Classic Who during his era?”
Yes but thats all a trick just to suck us in. He has no more interest in Classic who than Rory's The Master and the new girls Romana.
Originally Posted by Scorpio2:
“Yes but thats all a trick just to suck us in. He has no more interest in Classic who than Rory's The Master and the new girls Romana.”
“Yes but thats all a trick just to suck us in. He has no more interest in Classic who than Rory's The Master and the new girls Romana.”
But of course! One should never let little things like 'facts' get in the way of blind prejudice and pre-emptive outrage...
I'm pretty sure that all the previous Doctors will be acknowledged in some way. Hopefully - we'll see a few of them, whether it's in 'real life' or just in flashbacks.
Moffat won't let us down, I'm sure.
If it turns out to be just a Matt Smith 'Special' with Amy & Rory & River.......I'll just switch off!!!
Moffat won't let us down, I'm sure.
If it turns out to be just a Matt Smith 'Special' with Amy & Rory & River.......I'll just switch off!!!
Originally Posted by Scorpio2:
“Yes but thats all a trick just to suck us in. He has no more interest in Classic who than Rory's The Master and the new girls Romana.”
“Yes but thats all a trick just to suck us in. He has no more interest in Classic who than Rory's The Master and the new girls Romana.”
He has what the what about who and what now?
Originally Posted by FunkyJawa:
“What then?”
“What then?”
Then we'll at least be happy that the BBC have put the programme on at approximately the same time as the year before rather than shunting it yet another half a year into the distance.
Nobody even speculating that Clara will be involved somehow? You know, the new companion. You know, after Amy and Rory leave.
Originally Posted by CD93:
“Nobody even speculating that Clara will be involved somehow? You know, the new companion. You know, after Amy and Rory leave.”
“Nobody even speculating that Clara will be involved somehow? You know, the new companion. You know, after Amy and Rory leave.”
Exactly. Amy and Rory are leaving next series, and as Karen Gillan has said numerous times, she won't reprise the role again afterwards.
I don't think it needs to be multi-Doctor. But, as Scorpio2 has mentioned, I am worried that Moffatt will celebrate his tenure on Who rather than classic Who and the RTD years.
Its a personal opinion. I've simply not engaged with Doctor Who since Moffatt took over and I guess I would be more excited about the 50th if RTD was still in charge. He really understood how to celebrate Classic Who whilst reinventing the show for a new audience.
Its a personal opinion. I've simply not engaged with Doctor Who since Moffatt took over and I guess I would be more excited about the 50th if RTD was still in charge. He really understood how to celebrate Classic Who whilst reinventing the show for a new audience.
I think there may well be references to past Doctors/companions, but as Ecclestone has refused to return, and I can't see Tom coming back (though you can never tell with Tom - he's so unpredictable), it's unlikely there will be any actual appearances from old Doctors.
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“I don't think it needs to be multi-Doctor. But, as Scorpio2 has mentioned, I am worried that Moffatt will celebrate his tenure on Who rather than classic Who and the RTD years.”
“I don't think it needs to be multi-Doctor. But, as Scorpio2 has mentioned, I am worried that Moffatt will celebrate his tenure on Who rather than classic Who and the RTD years.”
Why? Moffat has, if anything, more consistent in his celebration of Who's history that we've seen to date. Not particularly because of his writing style, just that the returned series has matured enough to be able to make that work. The earlier series made a conscious effort not to overload viewers with mythology.
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“I don't think it needs to be multi-Doctor. But, as Scorpio2 has mentioned, I am worried that Moffatt will celebrate his tenure on Who rather than classic Who and the RTD years.
Its a personal opinion. I've simply not engaged with Doctor Who since Moffatt took over and I guess I would be more excited about the 50th if RTD was still in charge. He really understood how to celebrate Classic Who whilst reinventing the show for a new audience.”
“I don't think it needs to be multi-Doctor. But, as Scorpio2 has mentioned, I am worried that Moffatt will celebrate his tenure on Who rather than classic Who and the RTD years.
Its a personal opinion. I've simply not engaged with Doctor Who since Moffatt took over and I guess I would be more excited about the 50th if RTD was still in charge. He really understood how to celebrate Classic Who whilst reinventing the show for a new audience.”
I too would have preffered RTD to be in charge during the 50th anniversary for the same reasons. However, I don't think Moffat will keep to just his era of the show, he knows far too much about the entire show's history for that. And not only that, he risks upsetting fans like myself who grew up with Classic Who and would be outraged if it wasn't included somehow, with or without any Doctors returning.
Originally Posted by johnnysaucepn:
“Why? Moffat has, if anything, more consistent in his celebration of Who's history that we've seen to date. Not particularly because of his writing style, just that the returned series has matured enough to be able to make that work. The earlier series made a conscious effort not to overload viewers with mythology.”
“Why? Moffat has, if anything, more consistent in his celebration of Who's history that we've seen to date. Not particularly because of his writing style, just that the returned series has matured enough to be able to make that work. The earlier series made a conscious effort not to overload viewers with mythology.”
I agree. RTD had to bring back the show without the whole history piling down on it - otherwise it wouldn't have worked. He actively sought to keep out much of the history of the show. Whereas Moff has been keeping the classic references coming thick and fast. Stylistically, it's closer to classic, too. Moff has made more references to characters and happenings that took place in classic who.
I can't understand why people are worried that Moff will leave out the classic Who... He's proved he is more than able to bring in subtle reminders of the Classic series.
Maybe they were just too subtle for some?
Originally Posted by sebbie3000:
“I can't understand why people are worried that Moff will leave out the classic Who... He's proved he is more than able to bring in subtle reminders of the Classic series. Maybe they were just too subtle for some?”
“I can't understand why people are worried that Moff will leave out the classic Who... He's proved he is more than able to bring in subtle reminders of the Classic series. Maybe they were just too subtle for some?”
For me, its just a feeling that Moffatt's Who is far more self contained than RTD's was. It's all very clinical and clever, but lacks heart and seems overly obsessed with the Amy/Rory/River story. I guess I am worried he's got something terribly clever lined up but not something that will make me laugh and cry. And I do like a good cry!
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“For me, its just a feeling that Moffatt's Who is far more self contained than RTD's was. It's all very clinical and clever, but lacks heart and seems overly obsessed with the Amy/Rory/River story. I guess I am worried he's got something terribly clever lined up but not something that will make me laugh and cry. And I do like a good cry!”
“For me, its just a feeling that Moffatt's Who is far more self contained than RTD's was. It's all very clinical and clever, but lacks heart and seems overly obsessed with the Amy/Rory/River story. I guess I am worried he's got something terribly clever lined up but not something that will make me laugh and cry. And I do like a good cry!”
From that angle, I can see your point. But to be fair to him, he has recently stated that the next series would be less arc-heavy (which is where it gets it's insular feeling from, I would imagine), and we don't have anymore Amy/Rory/River mysteries to unravel once they have left the show. The new companion might send it in a completely different direction.
We'll just have to wait and see!
Wow, this thread never even got going before it was taken over with people whinging about total suppositions and airing their prejudices.
How about we suggest some alternative things that might be good instead? That sound like a more interesting thread.
What about offering each available past Doctor a role in an episode? Not playing the Doctor, but a new character. A different one could guest star each week. I think that would be pretty cool. Maybe they could even tie into an arc whereby all of those characters would appear together in the season finale or a special?
I think that would actually be more interesting for the actors and give them the chance to show their chops, rather than just putting on their ill-fitting costume again like they were appearing in panto.
The first priority MUST be to create good stories, good episodes, good TV. If they allow it all to become a big wŁ$%fest for the fans then it will turn the mainstream audience off, which the show cannot afford to do.
Moffat is sensible enough to realize this, as would RTD have been.
How about we suggest some alternative things that might be good instead? That sound like a more interesting thread.
What about offering each available past Doctor a role in an episode? Not playing the Doctor, but a new character. A different one could guest star each week. I think that would be pretty cool. Maybe they could even tie into an arc whereby all of those characters would appear together in the season finale or a special?
I think that would actually be more interesting for the actors and give them the chance to show their chops, rather than just putting on their ill-fitting costume again like they were appearing in panto.
The first priority MUST be to create good stories, good episodes, good TV. If they allow it all to become a big wŁ$%fest for the fans then it will turn the mainstream audience off, which the show cannot afford to do.
Moffat is sensible enough to realize this, as would RTD have been.
Originally Posted by Tom Tit:
“Wow, this thread never even got going before it was taken over with people whinging about total suppositions and airing their prejudices.
How about we suggest some alternative things that might be good instead? That sound like a more interesting thread.
What about offering each available past Doctor a role in an episode? Not playing the Doctor, but a new character. A different one could guest star each week. I think that would be pretty cool. Maybe they could even tie into an arc whereby all of those characters would appear together in the season finale or a special?
I think that would actually be more interesting for the actors and give them the chance to show their chops, rather than just putting on their ill-fitting costume again like they were appearing in panto.
The first priority MUST be to create good stories, good episodes, good TV. If they allow it all to become a big wŁ$%fest for the fans then it will turn the mainstream audience off, which the show cannot afford to do.
Moffat is sensible enough to realize this, as would RTD have been.”
“Wow, this thread never even got going before it was taken over with people whinging about total suppositions and airing their prejudices.
How about we suggest some alternative things that might be good instead? That sound like a more interesting thread.
What about offering each available past Doctor a role in an episode? Not playing the Doctor, but a new character. A different one could guest star each week. I think that would be pretty cool. Maybe they could even tie into an arc whereby all of those characters would appear together in the season finale or a special?
I think that would actually be more interesting for the actors and give them the chance to show their chops, rather than just putting on their ill-fitting costume again like they were appearing in panto.
The first priority MUST be to create good stories, good episodes, good TV. If they allow it all to become a big wŁ$%fest for the fans then it will turn the mainstream audience off, which the show cannot afford to do.
Moffat is sensible enough to realize this, as would RTD have been.”
I would wonder if that would be a viable option for them, though. The expectation of them to be their respective Doctor could be enough to turn people off from the special effort made.
But I do agree that either showrunner from the new series' could pull off a special with a good story. If they did something like you suggested, then perhaps I should wait and see, myself, and not get bogged down in my own perceived negatives...
[LIST][*]10th Anniversary: The Three Doctors[*]20th Anniversary: The Five Doctors[*]25th Anniversary: Silver Nemesis[*]50th Anniversary: ??[/LIST]
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