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*****Luke A Appreciation*****
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wonkeydonkey
17-06-2012
I'm really disappointed with Sheivonne there. She doesn't exactly slag luke off but she won't put herself out to say anything nice about him, and they seem to have spent loads of time together. I will be a bit gutted if she nominates him. Caroline is just being Caroline. She never seems to have a nice word for anyone outside her own group.
zeebra
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“I'm really disappointed with Sheivonne there. She doesn't exactly slag luke off but she won't put herself out to say anything nice about him, and they seem to have spent loads of time together. I will be a bit gutted if she nominates him. Caroline is just being Caroline. She never seems to have a nice word for anyone outside her own group.”

I thought Shievonne was better than that and feel a bit let down on Luke's behalf. Shievonne, decent enough housemate that she is, tries to be all things to all men but there is a risk to that strategy. She will eventually be sussed as someone who will agree with whatever the person she is talking to thinks.

As for Caroline, I really dislike her. I find her mean spirited and utterly lacking in empathy. Having said that she is a good HM in that she provides controversy but I would still like to see her gone if she was up for eviction.
zeebra
17-06-2012
I see that Luke's favourite housemate was Mark Henderson. Didn't you love him too WD?
Cowie
17-06-2012
Did Luke even get one word in on the latest highlights? Grrr I'm starting to get angry with Big Brother.
zeebra
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by Cowie:
“Did Luke even get one word in on the latest highlights? Grrr I'm starting to get angry with Big Brother.”

Hardly. It's sickening.
hulakula
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by zeebra:
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As for Caroline, I really dislike her. I find her mean spirited and utterly lacking in empathy. Having said that she is a good HM in that she provides controversy but I would still like to see her gone if she was up for eviction.”

Agreed. She comes across as an entitled, spoilt brat- who has been pampered and has never had to consider anyone but herself. Although she has a lot of confidence, she's never funny or witty, despite her attempts, which seem to exclusively involve putting others down - comparing someones IQ to that of a pineapple, isn't exactly the height of wit She seems to confuse sneering sarcasm with intelligence, which for someone who in constantly putting other people down for lacking it, she doesn't appear to have it in abundance herself.

Anyway, I'll stop with the character assassination now, I probably have an irrational hatred of her due to that I went to an all girls school and people like her were 10 a penny, coupled with the 'crazy' hairstyle to reflect their 'zany' personality :yawn:
hulakula
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by zeebra:
“I see that Luke's favourite housemate was Mark Henderson. Didn't you love him too WD?”

ooo where did you get that information?
Selena
17-06-2012
In the ticking timebomb task Luke won a prize.

Spoiler
Luke A picked up a trip to the candy shop
hulakula
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by Selena:
“In the ticking timebomb task Luke won a prize.

Spoiler
Luke A picked up a trip to the candy shop
”

Thank you Hopefully this will be shown on the highlights show and it won't be dominated by
Spoiler
Caroline 'hilariously' eating a fish eye :yawn:
zeebra
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by hulakula:
“ooo where did you get that information?”

There was a thread on the main forum.

Adam – Frankie Cocozza

Arron – N/A

Ashleigh – Nikki Grahame

Becky – Nikki Grahame

Benedict – Brian Belo

Caroline – Ben Duncan

Chris – Alex Reid

Conor – Jay McKray

Deana – Makosi Musambasi

Lauren – Nikki Grahame

Luke A – Mark Henderson

Luke S – Frankie Cocozza

Lydia – The Shannon Twins

Sara – Amy Childs

Scott – Corin Forshaw

Shievonne – Brian Dowing

Victoria - Brian Dowling
hulakula
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by zeebra:
“There was a thread on the main forum.
”

Thank you Zeebra I'm surprised Nikki Grahame is so popular, I couldn't stand her. I didn't watch last years BB so I don't have a clue what Mark Henderson was like.
zeebra
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by Selena:
“In the ticking timebomb task Luke won a prize.

Spoiler
Luke A picked up a trip to the candy shop
”

Great if we see it but I suspect we will only see the other one that hulakula has put in spoilers..
zeebra
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by hulakula:
“Thank you Zeebra I'm surprised Nikki Grahame is so popular, I couldn't stand her.”

Funnily enough I started off loathing Nikki but grew to love her before she was evicted.

I'm interested about your all-girl school experiences in relation to Caroline's attitude to life. She is typical of the ghastly creatures at the school that both my sons went to. (It was an independent grammar school). My older son stayed the course but the younger one couldn't wait to leave and go to the state sixth form (where he was much happier). It was girls like Caroline who made his time there an utter misery.
wonkeydonkey
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by zeebra:
“I see that Luke's favourite housemate was Mark Henderson. Didn't you love him too WD?”

Yes, how random is that? There was something about both of them that suggested rather troubled people who had learned to be ultra-nice to everyone in order to deflect general cruelty and nastiness. Mark seemed terribly extrovert and Luke seems introvert, but underneath I think both of them are fundamentally nice people who have learned that the world can hurt. .
Originally Posted by Selena:
“In the ticking timebomb task Luke won a prize.

Spoiler
Luke A picked up a trip to the candy shop
”

Will be nice (I hope) to see him doing something more fun than cooking and listening to other peoples' issues.

I hope he doesn't get enough nominations this week. Three weeks is far too soon to lose him, without feeling that he has ever had the chance to show his quiet qualities in a smaller house.
zeebra
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“Yes, how random is that? There was something about both of them that suggested rather troubled people who had learned to be ultra-nice to everyone in order to deflect general cruelty and nastiness. Mark seemed terribly extrovert and Luke seems introvert, but underneath I think both of them are fundamentally nice people who have learned that the world can hurt. .


Will be nice (I hope) to see him doing something more fun than cooking and listening to other peoples' issues.

I hope he doesn't get enough nominations this week. Three weeks is far too soon to lose him, without feeling that he has ever had the chance to show his quiet qualities in a smaller house.”

I seriously think he will struggle if he is up in a vote to save and I'm worried that Caroline will be able to whip up enough nominations for that to happen. I'll be on tenterhooks tomorrow till we know (anticipating the worst but hoping for the best).

BTW I see that guy is back and rolling his eyes and attacking some other random person!
Selena
17-06-2012
Big Brother Live ‏@BBUKLive

7.04pm: Luke A is in the Diary Room enjoying his timebomb prize: tubs upon tubs of sweets and a candy-striped bag to put them in. ‪#bbuklive
hulakula
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by zeebra:
“Funnily enough I started off loathing Nikki but grew to love her before she was evicted.

I'm interested about your all-girl school experiences in relation to Caroline's attitude to life. She is typical of the ghastly creatures at the school that both my sons went to. (It was an independent grammar school). My older son stayed the course but the younger one couldn't wait to leave and go to the state sixth form (where he was much happier). It was girls like Caroline who made his time there an utter misery.”

The secondary school I went to was grant maintained, however up until 2 years before I joined, it had been a well established fee paying school. A lot of students (and parents) didn't think those of us who weren't from wealthier backgrounds had a right to be there. I don't want to come across as an inverted snob. as there were plenty of nice people from rich families, however there was a clear divide between students from richer backgrounds and those of us who wouldn't have been able to afford the fees.

People who were like Caroline seemed to exude confidence in themselves and seemed to adopt an elitist attitude, due to being told how special they were and how much better they were to everyone else. They had very little tolerance for people who different to them or didn't think they were wonderful and reveled in making them feel small and marginalising them.They never seemed to appreciate people who did nice things for them, as in their minds, they're entitled to it and treat everyone else with contempt.

Despite the fact many of them were far less academically able than us and didn't work as hard, they thought they were far more intelligent than us and entitled to
rewards, just because of who they were and because they had so much more confidence. Caroline seems to be keen on commenting on how stupid other people are but she has never demonstrated a high level of intellect.

I apologise for the boring and long winded post I hope I haven't gone too off topic. Caroline just seems to think she is superior, which seems quite unfounded.
hulakula
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by Selena:
“Big Brother Live ‏@BBUKLive

7.04pm: Luke A is in the Diary Room enjoying his timebomb prize: tubs upon tubs of sweets and a candy-striped bag to put them in. ‪#bbuklive”

I hope they show this, on tomorrow nights highlights show.
hulakula
17-06-2012
Big Brother Live ‏@BBUKLive

8.28pm: Luke A and Lauren, talking nominations, agree it's not easy to pick on a Sunday because everyone's nice on a Sunday
zeebra
17-06-2012
Thanks for the explanation hulakula. At my kids' school there was a distinct difference in attitude between the privileged kids of very wealthy parents ( businessmen and the like) and the kids of professionals. The rich ones were Caroline clones, driving around in BMWs at 17, and lording their parents' wealth over everyone. They systematically picked off victim after victim (always from the "nerdy" groups) and I came to hate them.

I can see aspects of this behaviour in Caroline but I sincerely hope she is not going to direct her barbs at Luke as he hasn't done a thing to warrant it. Not that that will stop her of course.
zeebra
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by hulakula:
“Big Brother Live ‏@BBUKLive

8.28pm: Luke A and Lauren, talking nominations, agree it's not easy to pick on a Sunday because everyone's nice on a Sunday”

I hope that Lauren, Luke, Adam, Benedict, Deana and Shievonne can start voting tactically as a group otherwise any of them are vulnerable.
hulakula
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by zeebra:
“Thanks for the explanation hulakula. At my kids' school there was a distinct difference in attitude between the privileged kids of very wealthy parents ( businessmen and the like) and the kids of professionals. The rich ones were Caroline clones, driving around in BMWs at 17, and lording their parents' wealth over everyone. They systematically picked off victim after victim (always from the "nerdy" groups) and I came to hate them.

I can see aspects of this behaviour in Caroline but I sincerely hope she is not going to direct her barbs at Luke as he hasn't done a thing to warrant it. Not that that will stop her of course.”

I knew a lot of people like that too and Caroline reminds me of them. I hope she doesn't target Luke or hopefully the others don't follow suit. We don't want a repeat of Rachel vs Luke/ Bex ect
hulakula
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by zeebra:
“I hope that Lauren, Luke, Adam, Benedict, Deana and Shievonne can start voting tactically as a group otherwise any of them are vulnerable.”

Yes they should form a pact, I think they all have an axe to grind with Becky and they don't seem to like Arron either. I think Becky is likely to be up for nomination, however I hope other housemates don't target Luke, for the reasons that Caroline mentioned . However, I'm not sure where Shievonne's loyalties lie, as she seems to be trying to please everybody.
zeebra
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by hulakula:
“I knew a lot of people like that too and Caroline reminds me of them. I hope she doesn't target Luke or hopefully the others don't follow suit. We don't want a repeat of Rachel vs Luke/ Bex ect ”

God forbid. Anyway - stealth pancakes in the kitchen made by Luke!!! and shown!!!
hulakula
17-06-2012
Originally Posted by zeebra:
“God forbid. Anyway - stealth pancakes in the kitchen made by Luke!!! and shown!!!”

I know and he was shown in the diary room. He's getting a fair bit of airtime tonight and it was nice to see him sticking up for Lauren, he seems so genuine and empathetic
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