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Tablet/ipad advice please!!!
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bananaman_007
08-06-2012
I was in a very similar positiion to the OP a few months back and after playing with a few different tablets mates had i made the bold choice to get something i liked The Blackberry Playbook.

I had never owned a Blackberry but loved the design and heard the web browsing was hard to beat, as well as the best tablet for viewing flash content. This was important to me as i look at a lot of trailer websites and stream a lot of football matches. I also planned on taking the tablet out and about and being smaller then the ipad it slips nicely in my inside coat pocket without noticing it is there.

I have to say i am very pleased with my choice. While the Playbook has less apps i believe it makes up for that with the sheer quality of the video playback and web browsing. The 32gb model is only £200 and when compared to the prices of the Ipads it is a no brainer.

Saying that i was reading today Acer are about to launch a quad core tablet in the states for under $200 that also maybe worth a look if you are willing to get one shipped over.


I am certainly not discounting the ipad or any Android tablets , just saying i have had a plesent experience with the Playbook one i am extremely happy with.
grumpyoldbat
09-06-2012
Originally Posted by bananaman_007:
“I was in a very similar positiion to the OP a few months back and after playing with a few different tablets mates had i made the bold choice to get something i liked The Blackberry Playbook.

I had never owned a Blackberry but loved the design and heard the web browsing was hard to beat, as well as the best tablet for viewing flash content. This was important to me as i look at a lot of trailer websites and stream a lot of football matches. I also planned on taking the tablet out and about and being smaller then the ipad it slips nicely in my inside coat pocket without noticing it is there.

I have to say i am very pleased with my choice. While the Playbook has less apps i believe it makes up for that with the sheer quality of the video playback and web browsing. The 32gb model is only £200 and when compared to the prices of the Ipads it is a no brainer.

Saying that i was reading today Acer are about to launch a quad core tablet in the states for under $200 that also maybe worth a look if you are willing to get one shipped over.


I am certainly not discounting the ipad or any Android tablets , just saying i have had a plesent experience with the Playbook one i am extremely happy with.”

I think this is a really good example of someone having a particular use for a tablet, that then dictates what they should buy.

I wish every person who posted asking for advice on DS would post what they want to do with it before they ask. Would make suggesting stuff so much easier.
GamerGirl
09-06-2012
Originally Posted by Matt D:
“......

The Sony Tablet S is a nice tablet.

It uses the Tegra 2, the same as the Motorola Xoom and Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. This has the same dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU as the iPad 2 & 3, but an inferior GeForce GPU compared to the iPad 2's dual-core PowerVR SGX543MP2 and the iPad 3's quad-core PowerVR SGX543MP4.

The PS1 game support is a nice bonus compared to the otherwise equally-specced Xoom/Tab.

As it's of the same sort of "generation" of tablets as the iPad 2, it is cheaper than the iPad 3 (32GB WiFi is £379, compared to £479 for the iPad 3).[Although like the Xoom and others, it originally launched at exactly the same price point the iPad 3 currently occupies, and iPad 2 used to occupy].

Only Android 3.2 (Honeycomb). Not sure if it can be upgraded to Android 4 (Ice Cream Sandwich).”

Yes the Sony S got the ICS upgrade on 31st May 2012

AND I bought it from John Lewis for the better guarantee available from them.

@ Kent1975 Hope you enjoy your iPad, though
alanwarwic
09-06-2012
There seems to be a general rule in here.
All newbies have to either buy a Apple device or buy Samsung and have 3 or 4 replacements.

alanwarwic
09-06-2012
[quote=alanwarwic;58737021]There seems to be a general rule in here.
All newbies have to either buy a Apple device or buy Samsung and have 3 or 4 replacements.

I suppose Apple are the Ford of computing.
Very very boring but what people buy.
Matt D
09-06-2012
Why have you replied to yourself?

Originally Posted by GamerGirl:
“Yes the Sony S got the ICS upgrade on 31st May 2012

AND I bought it from John Lewis for the better guarantee available from them.

@ Kent1975 Hope you enjoy your iPad, though ”

Ah, good to know I know some other devices are still waiting for ICS!
Gormond
09-06-2012
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
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Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“There seems to be a general rule in here.
All newbies have to either buy a Apple device or buy Samsung and have 3 or 4 replacements.”

I suppose Apple are the Ford of computing.
Very very boring but what people buy.”

Why are you asking and answering your own question? Very strange...
alan1302
09-06-2012
[quote=alanwarwic;58737166]
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“There seems to be a general rule in here.
All newbies have to either buy a Apple device or buy Samsung and have 3 or 4 replacements.

I suppose Apple are the Ford of computing.
Very very boring but what people buy.”

Apple are more like BMW, Samsung are Ford.
alanwarwic
09-06-2012
BMW cars are robust and are not designed to shatter at every pothole.
Gormond
09-06-2012
Originally Posted by alan1302:
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Apple are more like BMW, Samsung are Ford.”

Indeed, to say Apple are boring is madness, they are anything but...

IMO Sir Jony Ive is one of the greatest designers of our time.
Gormond
09-06-2012
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“BMW cars are robust and are not designed to shatter at every pothole.”

My 4 year old iPhone 3G and 2 year old iPhone 4 are still going strong, they are plenty durable especially with the bumper.
Batwing
10-06-2012
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
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I suppose Apple are the Ford of computing.
Very very boring but what people buy.”

If they were boring then people wouldn't buy them. Popular isn't synonymous with boring.
Batwing
10-06-2012
Originally Posted by Gormond:
“Indeed, to say Apple are boring is madness, they are anything but...

IMO Sir Jony Ive is one of the greatest designers of our time.”

Jony Ive doesn't single handedly design Apple products. There are many designers at Apple that design the products. In fact, many people outside of their design section have contributed to the design of Apple products. The most obvious person being Steve Jobs. If a recall correctly the scroll wheel on the iPad was the idea of one of the top executives in either finance or marketing.
Gormond
10-06-2012
Originally Posted by Batwing:
“Jony Ive doesn't single handedly design Apple products. There are many designers at Apple that design the products. In fact, many people outside of their design section have contributed to the design of Apple products. The most obvious person being Steve Jobs. If a recall correctly the scroll wheel on the iPad was the idea of one of the top executives in either finance or marketing.”

I didn't suggest that he single handedly designed their products but he is the person in charge who chooses what they go with along with the CEO. He also contributes the most to their designs according to Steve Jobs in his biography.
Matt D
10-06-2012
Originally Posted by Batwing:
“JIf a recall correctly the scroll wheel on the iPad was the idea of one of the top executives in either finance or marketing.”

Phil Schiller, Senior Vice President of Marketing.

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/08/...uture-success/
Batwing
11-06-2012
Originally Posted by Matt D:
“Phil Schiller, Senior Vice President of Marketing.

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/08/...uture-success/”

Thanks, I had a feeling it was Phil Schiller.
Batwing
11-06-2012
Originally Posted by Gormond:
“I didn't suggest that he single handedly designed their products but he is the person in charge who chooses what they go with along with the CEO. He also contributes the most to their designs according to Steve Jobs in his biography.”

He never had the final say or shared that job when Jobs was around and I doubt that will be the case with Jobs gone. He, and his team, originally designed the iPhone with a plastic screen and Jobs said no.

As I said, there are quite a few designers that work at Apple and I even gave the example of one of their executives (Phil Schiller) being the one responsible for the iconic iPod scroll wheel, not to mention Steve Jobs and the obsession he had with every detail of every product design.

Many people contribute to design at Apple. He is important in his position, just not as important or as indispensable as some of his fellow countrymen make him out to be simpl,y because he is British.
alan1302
11-06-2012
Originally Posted by Batwing:
“If they were boring then people wouldn't buy them. Popular isn't synonymous with boring.”

I'm sure there are plenty of boring popular items that are bought.

Popular usually means the safe choice.
alan1302
11-06-2012
Originally Posted by Batwing:
“Many people contribute to design at Apple. He is important in his position, just not as important or as indispensable as some of his fellow countrymen make him out to be simpl,y because he is British.”

He designed the iPod and iPhone - seems pretty important to me - even if you are not keen on them they will both go down as classic designs and it's not just because he is British it' because he is a good designer - obviously he has a good team as well at Apple but he is the leader of them.

It does not matter if it was designed with a plastic screen or not - that's not really a pure design choice as the phone would look the same with or without glass.
bazellis
11-06-2012
Well I've finally taken the plunge and bought the new Ipad 32GB, and I'm loving it
PiazzaCharlie
11-06-2012
I might be biased, but I can only think of two reasons not to buy an iPad (rather than another tablet).

1. You can't afford it.
2. You have a severe disliking of Apple.
paulbrock
11-06-2012
Originally Posted by PiazzaCharlie:
“I might be biased, but I can only think of two reasons not to buy an iPad (rather than another tablet).

1. You can't afford it.
2. You have a severe disliking of Apple.”

Yes, I think you're biased (Though I think they are common reasons, but could equally be applied to Apple's other products). The first is a very common Appleite charge - you only went for a competitor because you're not rich enough and secretly envy my and my equipment. A psychologist's wet dream

Other reasons off the top of my head

- you're already familiar with and/or prefer the Android system, probably through owning a phone (probably the other main one IMHO)
- concerned about inflexibility in the Apple system, e.g.reluctance to allow drag and drop <- my main one. Every so often a poster here or elsewhere will drop in a "you can't do that on ipad/iphone/iOS" or "its great we can now do x on iOS" and I'm dumbfounded. Nothing show-stoppy but enough to know as a power user I'd hit walls that would frustrate me. That has nothing to do with a "severe disliking", its an assessment of my product needs.
- preferring alternate products, like the Transformer or upcoming Padfone concepts from Asus
- preferring smaller form factor, like the many 7" tablets


I'm sure people can add more. Plenty of tablets are similarly priced to the iPad, I don't think you can label all purchasers of those as having a "severe disliking of Apple" any more than you can label Apple product buyers of only doing so because of the logo on the back.
PiazzaCharlie
11-06-2012
Originally Posted by paulbrock:
“Yes, I think you're biased (Though I think they are common reasons, but could equally be applied to Apple's other products). The first is a very common Appleite charge - you only went for a competitor because you're not rich enough and secretly envy my and my equipment. A psychologist's wet dream

Other reasons off the top of my head

- you're already familiar with and/or prefer the Android system, probably through owning a phone (probably the other main one IMHO)
- concerned about inflexibility in the Apple system, e.g.reluctance to allow drag and drop <- my main one. Every so often a poster here or elsewhere will drop in a "you can't do that on ipad/iphone/iOS" or "its great we can now do x on iOS" and I'm dumbfounded. Nothing show-stoppy but enough to know as a power user I'd hit walls that would frustrate me. That has nothing to do with a "severe disliking", its an assessment of my product needs.
- preferring alternate products, like the Transformer or upcoming Padfone concepts from Asus
- preferring smaller form factor, like the many 7" tablets


I'm sure people can add more. Plenty of tablets are similarly priced to the iPad, I don't think you can label all purchasers of those as having a "severe disliking of Apple" any more than you can label Apple product buyers of only doing so because of the logo on the back.”

The line about envy was yours, not mine. My point was limited to practical cost of an iPad being prohibitively high.

Whilst I appreciate your points, I think overall the pros outweigh the cons. Almost certainly the best screen on any tablet, and the widest range of apps. And also many iPad apps are better tailored to the larger screen, whereas many Android apps are simply bigger versions of their phone equivalents. An iPad doesn't take much getting used to for example. But I'll add a third reason:

3. You are a bit more techie and enjoy tinkering / customising.
paulbrock
11-06-2012
Originally Posted by PiazzaCharlie:
“ Almost certainly the best screen on any tablet, and the widest range of apps. And also many iPad apps are better tailored to the larger screen, whereas many Android apps are simply bigger versions of their phone equivalents.”

I don't question any of that, though have seen it first hand, I think the difference the ipad 3's screen brings is not much of a USP. Likewise when a laptop 'retina' display is possibly announced later today, it won't all of sudden make most of us question our current displays.

Apps, yes, there are more ipad-optimised apps. Conversely that are more free apps on Android, and the ability to use flash means a lot more online apps/websites run out of the box.

Quote:
“An iPad doesn't take much getting used to for example.”

Not entirely sure what you mean by this? The cynic in me suggests its just a rewording of the meaningless "It just works"

Quote:
“But I'll add a third reason:
3. You are a bit more techie and enjoy tinkering / customising.”

Guilty as charged
PiazzaCharlie
11-06-2012
Originally Posted by paulbrock:
“I don't question any of that, though have seen it first hand, I think the difference the ipad 3's screen brings is not much of a USP. Likewise when a laptop 'retina' display is possibly announced later today, it won't all of sudden make most of us question our current displays. The tablet market is much smaller, in terms of models available compared to laptops, so I think there's less scope for other tablets to compete with the iPad, in the same way that there will be in the laptop market. Plus, most people are new to tablets, not new to laptops, so all other things being equal, it makes a goos degree of sense for "screen quality" to be a major consideration, moreso than if they were looking to get a laptop.

Apps, yes, there are more ipad-optimised apps. Conversely that are more free apps on Android, and the ability to use flash means a lot more online apps/websites run out of the box.

Not entirely sure what you mean by this? The cynic in me suggests its just a rewording of the meaningless "It just works"

Guilty as charged ”

Of course retina displays on laptops won't make other displays worthless. But they almost certainly will make the display on any new MacBooks about the best out there.

I don't see more free Android apps being that much of a plus, unless there are a load of apps that don't have an iPad equivalent. Which is difficult to imagine.

Flash is increasingly a non issue, as people move away from Flash to HTML5. Heck, even Adobe had dropped support for mobile Flash.

I meant that an iPad doesn't take much getting used to. And no, I didn't mean "it just works", I meant the way in which app based mobile devices tend to work - a bunch of apps, with icons you tap to launch. The UI isn't complicated or difficult to learn. This is true of the iPad, and Android devices. The point was that any differences are not really significant enough to warrant a steep learning curve by moving from either to the other.

With the whole Mac / PC thing, I do just think the world largely splits into two kinds of people - mathematical types who are more into tweaking, customising etc, and more arty types less into that, who maybe appreciate how things look, or usable they are. They are of course complete stereotypes, but you do often hear about "right side of brain" and "left side of brain" people, and I think that plays a big part in all of these endless Mac / PC discussions.

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