[Shannon_Burnett]

Originally Posted by String9

Both Rebecca and 1D are global Artists, 1D foreinstance have sold more albums and singles combined in America and Austalia in 3 months than Alexandra has done in her whole career.

Olly Murs sold more singles in the UK than Coldplay last year, but Coldplay sold over 5million records worldwide last year alone.

Which seems to really get on the t*ts of some, doesn't it?

The claim that Alex and Leona wouldn't do as well if they were debuting today is more silliness. The following says it best:

Considering 21 just happened, I think, if given airplay, Alex and Leona would've been just as big, because they'd have stood out vocally. If they didn't exist till 2012 and 2013, they'd be big, as vocally they outdo Adele (no shade).

[Zack06]

Originally Posted by twingle

So you are blaming Syco, Modest Management AND RCA? That is a lot of people to blame oh and not forgetting all the radio stations refusing to playlist her but then Alex fans are saying it is all Cowell's fault. I wonder if he has paid off all the radio stations then? How deluded. He has more fish to fry than to try and sabotage Alex's career

You are deluded if you think this is Alex's fault. What record label DOESN'T tweet about an album launch....they've tweeted about every single release except Alex's....what management DOESN'T secure any promo whatsoever on the week of her album release?! Surely you're not expecting Alexandra to have come up with all these solutions herself....she has been screwed over in a big way, there isn't much she can do about the radio situation, but do you really honestly think it's acceptable for her promo team to have ZERO promo lined up on the release week of her album. No promotion. Nothing. And is it really acceptable for RCA to give her the lowest budget possible after her 850K+ debut album and 3 #1 singles?

[JustArun]

Originally Posted by twingle

So you are blaming Syco, Modest Management AND RCA? That is a lot of people to blame oh and not forgetting all the radio stations refusing to playlist her but then Alex fans are saying it is all Cowell's fault. I wonder if he has paid off all the radio stations then? How deluded. He has more fish to fry than to try and sabotage Alex's career

Alright simon's pet, calm down.

What we're trying to get into that delusional head of yours is that clearly is something is going on behind the scenes, Simon should have invited her to perform on BGT but he failed to secure this slot for her, why? Also What record label doesn't tweet about the release of their artists records...clearly they no longer care for Alex or they're all in cahoots to sabotage Alex. The facts speak for itself.

[stevo642]

Originally Posted by JustArun

Alright simon's pet, calm down.

What we're trying to get into that delusional head of yours is that clearly is something is going on behind the scenes, Simon should have invited her to perform on BGT but he failed to secure this slot for her, why? Also What record label doesn't tweet about the release of their artists records...clearly they no longer care for Alex or they're all in cahoots to sabotage Alex. The facts speak for itself.

Im an Alex fan but this blaming Simon thing does NOT wash with me. 1. I don't think he would risk the reputational damage of getting radio to blacklist her. 2. He has NOTHING to gain, the more x factor acts that flop the less credible it becomes. 3. Why should he just give her a slot on BGT? The show has nothing to do with her, and plenty of artists have successful careers without performing on BGT or X factor.

I do think something has happened behind the scenes, and RCA are a huge pile of cr*p! They have truly screwed her over, equally i think something has happened behind the scenes with radio, as her music is much better than the likes of cheryl/tulisa and i think this album is better quality than overcome and certainly not the real reason she isnt getting airplay. But this is Alex's career and she has to take some accountability for it.

[barrcode88]

Originally Posted by twingle

BIB1 How can you say they have longevity. No one knows what the future holds for them. The Voice contestants in USA haven't set the charts alight and I will wait to see what happens here before making predictions

BIB2 You obviously know nothing as this is not true. Matt didn't record any songs in Sweden neither did Rebecca. 1D recorded a few songs in Sweden but not the whole album and those songs recorded in Sweden have become very successful so your point is?

Because they've signed multi album deals, UMG usually throw a lot of money into reality stars Girls Aloud, Cheryl Cole, Liberty X and so forth.. - they evolved, Cowell does not realise this its safe to say that UMG are getting it right so far, plus y'know they have the BBC in their back pocket so expect a lot of airplay.

[Lovely_noise123]

I think they have wanted to drop her for a long time, and this just gives them the perfect excuse.

[daniellejayne]

I actually feel sorry for Alex. Her first album was great but then I heard the rubbish that was elephant and then let it go and decided I wasn't going to buy the album.
Obviously the radio snub has something to do with the single and album flopping but then only reaching number 18. I always thought while she had a lot of haters she still had a lot of fans so why aren't they buying this album?

Even though I feel for Alex I can't help to laugh at some of her fans. 'Let it go worldwide smash' etc. Also the fact they constantly put down Leona's and JLS' sales and now Alex isn't selling well they come out with all the excuses they can think of.

[Slojo]

Originally Posted by Lovely_noise123

I think they have wanted to drop her for a long time, and this just gives them the perfect excuse.

But she only signed the combined Syco/RCA deal last June/July time so your saying they wanted to drop her before she had even released anything with them

[Stally]

Originally Posted by Zack06

1D have had a ton of money and literally ALL of Syco/Modest's resources thrown at them so that is obviously going to translate into sales...

Switch to Alexandra who has been completely stitched up by Modest...no promotion on album release week? The lowest budget possible, which quite frankly is unacceptable given her previous track record and lower calibre producers than she should have been working with.....Alexandra is capable of singing each and every member of 1D out of existence, so had she had the support and cash they are getting handed, it would be a very different story. It says a whole lot when Alex had an album, image and a backstory ready made for US success and Syco threw it all away. No wonder she left, it's just a shame she was still tied to Modest as they have screwed her over. RCA haven't even tweeted about her album and single releases....she hasn't been given a fair shot at all.

If Alex left Syco for that reason, then why didn't she plan a US launch with her new label straight away?

That reason can't be true as Alex has said herself that she wants to focus on the UK and Europe before she even thinks about America.

Also I don't see what Simon Cowell would gain from asking radio stations not to play her music. I'm starting to think that there are some unknown personal reasons why radio aren't playing her music.I don't mind Alex's music, but I don't think anyone could deny that she has lost a lot of fans and that she might have done something to upset some radio stations.

[Stally]

Originally Posted by daniellejayne

I actually feel sorry for Alex. Her first album was great but then I heard the rubbish that was elephant and then let it go and decided I wasn't going to buy the album.
Obviously the radio snub has something to do with the single and album flopping but then only reaching number 18. I always thought while she had a lot of haters she still had a lot of fans so why aren't they buying this album?

Even though I feel for Alex I can't help to laugh at some of her fans. 'Let it go worldwide smash' etc. Also the fact they constantly put down Leona's and JLS' sales and now Alex isn't selling well they come out with all the excuses they can think of.

That's exactly how I feel. I was never a massive fan of hers but, I loved overcome. I was also quite disappointed when I heard elephant and let it go as I didn't think they were strong singles. The only song I like on her new album is WMCB.

Some of them are also dragging down 1D just because they've gone global which is clearly bothering them.

[shaunnashines]

Originally Posted by barrcode88

Because they've signed multi album deals, UMG usually throw a lot of money into reality stars Girls Aloud, Cheryl Cole, Liberty X and so forth.. - they evolved, Cowell does not realise this its safe to say that UMG are getting it right so far, plus y'know they have the BBC in their back pocket so expect a lot of airplay.

Yes...but it all depends on their success. Girls Aloud had the right material (amazing producers), extremely marketable and were consistent with their sales. It's more than just 'the voice'.

[barrcode88]

Originally Posted by shaunnashines

Yes...but it all depends on their success. Girls Aloud had the right material (amazing producers), extremely marketable and were consistent with their sales. It's more than just 'the voice'.

Very same producers that Bo is working with along with Snow Patrol - you only have to look at her and her previous material to see she's ready made and they picked her up.

[twingle]

Originally Posted by Zack06

You are deluded if you think this is Alex's fault. What record label DOESN'T tweet about an album launch....they've tweeted about every single release except Alex's....what management DOESN'T secure any promo whatsoever on the week of her album release?! Surely you're not expecting Alexandra to have come up with all these solutions herself....she has been screwed over in a big way, there isn't much she can do about the radio situation, but do you really honestly think it's acceptable for her promo team to have ZERO promo lined up on the release week of her album. No promotion. Nothing. And is it really acceptable for RCA to give her the lowest budget possible after her 850K+ debut album and 3 #1 singles?

No where have I said this is all Alex's fault. I was just pointing out how silly it is for fans to blame Cowell. It isn't in his interests to sabotage her career plus I doubt she is even on his radar to think about it. Whilst I agree there must be some reason that radio stations won't playlist her I don't think it is to do with Cowell. But if it makes you happier to think it is then fine.

[twingle]

Originally Posted by barrcode88

Because they've signed multi album deals, UMG usually throw a lot of money into reality stars Girls Aloud, Cheryl Cole, Liberty X and so forth.. - they evolved, Cowell does not realise this its safe to say that UMG are getting it right so far, plus y'know they have the BBC in their back pocket so expect a lot of airplay.

Ah a bit like the Fame acadamy winners. *cough* where are they now!

You can't have it both ways. Cowell gets it always wrong and the BBC always gets it right. In reality some acts make it whether they are with Syco or Universal and lots don't make it with either. It is the way it is.

[Lovely_noise123]

Originally Posted by barrcode88

Very same producers that Bo is working with along with Snow Patrol - you only have to look at her and her previous material to see she's ready made and they picked her up.

Didn't Bo chart at 19 in the midweeks?? Thats even lower than Alexandra was. If I was in charge of a record label I would be looking at that as quite a good indicator of how sucessful shes going to be, which is not very at all!

[MrsOrin]

Alex shoud blame her fickle so caled fans. So many followers on twitter and they know her album is out and only 7k of them bothered to buy the album. I am sure she has more than 7k fans in the UK.

The free publicity of her radio snubbing in all the UK papers doesn't seemed to have sent a tide of sales her way either or public outcry, which means maybe the public are not that interested in her or her music right now. If the radio stations have not recieved a backlash for blacklisting her then they might continue to do so.

She has a great voice but it TAKES MORE than that to sell these days. She needs find out why.

ETA her family need to STFU on twitter they don't need to say everything that pops into their heads. They are only fanning the flames. No record company will want to deal with her if the BAGGAGE keeps opening their gobs and throwing shade

[my name is joe]

Cowell can't even control who wins the XF he certainly can't control the radio or the public's spending. There's no way he'd want AB to fail, or go out of his way to make life difficult for her.

AB's fans need to drop the delusion about her being the UK's best popstar/singer (she's neither) who's being shafted for mysterious reasons, and look realistically at what she's offering musically.

in my opinion

[BrokenBromance]

Originally Posted by Lovely_noise123

Didn't Bo chart at 19 in the midweeks?? Thats even lower than Alexandra was. If I was in charge of a record label I would be looking at that as quite a good indicator of how sucessful shes going to be, which is not very at all!

I feel Bo did extremely well considering this is an old EP that she put on itunes in 2010. It wasn't involved in any kind of launch, just happened on it's own with fans of hers discovering it was there so I don't feel it can be fairly compared with Alex at this point.

[Harry Redknapp]

Originally Posted by MrsOrin

Alex shoud blame her fickle so caled fans. So many followers on twitter and they know her album is out and only 7k of them bothered to buy the album. I am sure she has more than 7k fans in the UK.

The free publicity of her radio snubbing in all the UK papers doesn't seemed to have sent a tide of sales her way either or public outcry, which means maybe the public are not that interested in her or her music right now. If the radio stations have not recieved a backlash for blacklisting her then they might continue to do so.

She has a great voice but it TAKES MORE than that to sell these days. She needs find out why.

ETA her family need to STFU on twitter they don't need to say everything that pops into their heads. They are only fanning the flames. No record company will want to deal with her if the BAGGAGE keeps opening their gobs and throwing shade

tbf, who really looks @ twitter.. or really pays that much attention. Twitter can only do so much and followers dont necessarily = album sales.

If you can't be heard on the radio and barely on the tv promoting, how will anyone know if she has an album out?

All the while UK radio bangout songs by Cheryl and Tulisa. the actual f#k?

I do agree with you on the family tho. I know they are a tightnit family, and I know her brother is a fan but he does need to be more diplomatic if he bneeds to speak out.

[barrcode88]

Originally Posted by Lovely_noise123

Didn't Bo chart at 19 in the midweeks?? Thats even lower than Alexandra was. If I was in charge of a record label I would be looking at that as quite a good indicator of how sucessful shes going to be, which is not very at all!

The fact it got no airplay and no promotion (it wasn't mentioned or plugged on TV) and charted via word of mouth/social networking and downloads only, compared to Alex who has had tabloid promotion and home page promotion here on DS and various other websites and tabloids with physical copies.

Bo sounds the better off to me, and now Tyler James is up to #7 via word of mouth - I rest my case.

[FanFromHolland]

Originally Posted by barrcode88

The fact it got no airplay and no promotion (it wasn't mentioned or plugged on TV) and charted via word of mouth/social networking and downloads only, compared to Alex who has had tabloid promotion and home page promotion here on DS and various other websites and tabloids with physical copies.

Bo sounds the better off to me, and now Tyler James is up to #7 via word of mouth - I rest my case.

Word of Mouth?

Word Of Mouth?

Do you call The Voice word of mouth?

[marinamau]

Advertising an artist or advertising a product by an artist is the same thing. That is why even album artists have singles.
The voice has advertised bo among others for a while now.

[Dare2Dreamm]

Originally Posted by FanFromHolland

Word of Mouth?

Word Of Mouth?

Do you call The Voice word of mouth?

LOL!

I was thinking the same. Since when is a TV show watched by millions of people word of mouth?

[JordanC55]

Why is Alex #59 on Itunes in the first week of release - poor girl. Hope Mcdonalds treats her well.

[Lovely_noise123]

Originally Posted by JordanC55

Why is Alex #59 on Itunes in the first week of release - poor girl. Hope Mcdonalds treats her well.

Because her record label are sick of her terrible attitude, just like the public!!