Rather a horrible, painful, long-lasting infection that gives him so much agony he hasn't the energy or will to think about anything else.

BIB No need as the Registrar will visit the MBU.

From the Gov.UK website:

If you’re going to the register office on your own, you may need proof of paternity from the other parent before you give their details.

Seems that Helen is determined to cut Rob out completely by giving the baby the Archer surname. Much more storyline to get out of this scenario I should think. Wth a bit of luck sleaze-bag Rob willgo completely ballistic and deep-sex Arsula.

Oh my goodness, I've become over-engaged in a bloody soap opera. Time for me to take a step back I think

From recent experience I am aware that if the dad registers the birth he has to take a red book (?) with the records from the maternity unit where the baby was born.
So Rob is unable to register the birth without this.

Oh I do hope so. It's way past time that Rob loses it, quite publicly and shows his true colours.

Which makes sense otherwise anybody could register the birth of a child.

It is indeed time to step back when you are saying things like that about a mother and son.

I genuinely am quite shocked by that comment.

That is great to read.
Since he can't have contact with Helen its looking like full steam ahead for baby Archer.

That would make perfect sense because, as seejay says, without something like that anyone could claim to be a parent and register a child.

Not sure the Archers will try to be so prosaic though. If the drama requires it they'll have Rob register the baby and behold thd fallout.

I wasn't sure whether to be shocked or not as I'm not quite sure what it means. I thought it might have been a typo or auto-correct or something.

Sorry for the typo, I meant 'deep-six Arsula'

I think that only applies to unmarried Fathers. Married Fathers have an automatic right to register the birth.

Helen seems to have it all sorted anyway and as the birth can be registered at the MBU or at the hospital she will be able to get it done much quicker. I do hope that the naming of the baby is a turning point for Helen, she sounded so much more like her own self when she was telling Peggy and Tony the names she had chosen.

My money is still on Rob registering Gideon last week while Helen was still in dithering mode. It's a much better story line. Helen and her family will be outraged.

Thank goodness for that.
I've no idea what deep-six means though.

Graves are normally 6 foot deep

Finally got it.

Thanks.

But wouldn't he have to have proof of the birth? Otherwise you could go and register children who don't exist.

I'm sure you get something at the hospital which you have to take to the Registrar as proof of birth, which Rob wouldn't have. I didn't register any of my children, my husband did them all while I was still in hospital, but I'm sure he had to have something signed by the midwife before he could do it.

Laughing so much I've forgotten what I came on to say.


I'm 99.9% sure without bothering to look it up that it's a nautical expression something to do with tossing something over the side of the ship. Either will do though.

But I'm glad Helen has found some mojo and also that they didn't run with her rejecting the baby, that would have been overkill.

And it seems as if Pat seems to have finally given up the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

The Registrar would need to know date, time, sex and place of birth plus other details regarding occupation etc. Some areas insist on seeing the baby's discharge papers but by no means all, as the birth will have been recorded (not registered) by the hospital online and the Registrar will have access to this. With Rob being in a different county to Helen at present, he may find the registration will take longer as they have to request the details from the area in which the baby was born.

It would make for a cracking storyline though if Rob did get there first and may well fire Helen into action!

I agree - I did a bit of a whoop whoop when Helen said "My son. John. Anthony. Archer"

Oh Peggy's back to meddling again

Rapist and Fetid-hag-face don't deserve *anything*

I'm hoping Helen registers him and it makes Rob show his true personality to everyone else.


Although, because she's married to Rob he'll surely have to take the surname Titchener wouldn't he?

I'm not sure. I think you can give a child whatever name and surname you want.

Like you, I want Rob to go berserk when he finds out - I'd like him to assault the registrar and for it all to be caught on CCTV.

Not in the UK - she can call him whatever she likes, first and last names. *Rubs hands together gleefully*