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Old 21-08-2016, 20:42
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Listening to it again today I wondered if Rob is delusional and Justin has not offered him a job at all, especially as he didn't 'accept' there and then.
He was claiming earlier Helen had forced him to give up his job to help run the shop which is a complete fantasy on his part.

Yes, I thought he was delusional about the shop job, but I forgot I'd had that thought!

The conversation when he rings Justin to tell him he's accepted the non-existent offer could be amusing.

It's also pretty dodgy of him to accept another offer when he's still on "sick leave" from Bridge Farm. I hope Pat and Tony make him go back to work out his notice!
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Old 21-08-2016, 22:27
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I think the strangely silent and invisible Usha owns it now and rents it to Rob, though how she came to be the owner I haven't a clue. Peggy lived in it at some time and may have owned it then.
Yes she did own Blossom Hill Cottage. When she married Jack Woolley they lived in The Lodge. I always assumed this to be the former lodge/gate house to Grey Gables which presumably was a country manor house or stately home before it became a country club and hotel. I seem to remember she let Blossom Hill for a time. I don't remember Usha buying it but seemingly she owns it now and she certainly lived there before she married Alan.
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Old 22-08-2016, 01:08
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Helen is acquitted and gets residence of Henry and Jack, but Rob has visiting rights.
Helen, Jack and Henry have moved to Bridge Farm.
At the moment the Archer family inc Helen and the boys are off on a holiday in Pembrokeshire.

You are a villager and you know everything that happened to Helen during her relationship with Rob, the stabbing, the court case etc. Today you're out for a walk and you pass Blossom Hill. The door is ajar and you hear sighing. Rob has tripped, fallen down the stairs, his stab wound opened and he is nearly unconscious, bleeding profusely.
Do you:
a) get your mobile out, immediately phone for an ambulance and try to help
b) quietly walk back down the path and continue your stroll

??
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Old 22-08-2016, 08:51
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Helen is acquitted and gets residence of Henry and Jack, but Rob has visiting rights.
Helen, Jack and Henry have moved to Bridge Farm.
At the moment the Archer family inc Helen and the boys are off on a holiday in Pembrokeshire.

You are a villager and you know everything that happened to Helen during her relationship with Rob, the stabbing, the court case etc. Today you're out for a walk and you pass Blossom Hill. The door is ajar and you hear sighing. Rob has tripped, fallen down the stairs, his stab wound opened and he is nearly unconscious, bleeding profusely.
Do you:
a) get your mobile out, immediately phone for an ambulance and try to help
b) quietly walk back down the path and continue your stroll

??
Oooh you wicked, wicked, man Of course we're all going to pick the most humane answer [cough] b) [cough]
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Old 22-08-2016, 10:05
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Helen is acquitted and gets residence of Henry and Jack, but Rob has visiting rights.
Helen, Jack and Henry have moved to Bridge Farm.
At the moment the Archer family inc Helen and the boys are off on a holiday in Pembrokeshire.

You are a villager and you know everything that happened to Helen during her relationship with Rob, the stabbing, the court case etc. Today you're out for a walk and you pass Blossom Hill. The door is ajar and you hear sighing. Rob has tripped, fallen down the stairs, his stab wound opened and he is nearly unconscious, bleeding profusely.
Do you:
a) get your mobile out, immediately phone for an ambulance and try to help
b) quietly walk back down the path and continue your stroll

??
b) b) b) AND b)
There are occasions when karma is not a bitch
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Old 22-08-2016, 11:04
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Helen is acquitted and gets residence of Henry and Jack, but Rob has visiting rights.
Helen, Jack and Henry have moved to Bridge Farm.
At the moment the Archer family inc Helen and the boys are off on a holiday in Pembrokeshire.

You are a villager and you know everything that happened to Helen during her relationship with Rob, the stabbing, the court case etc. Today you're out for a walk and you pass Blossom Hill. The door is ajar and you hear sighing. Rob has tripped, fallen down the stairs, his stab wound opened and he is nearly unconscious, bleeding profusely.
Do you:
a) get your mobile out, immediately phone for an ambulance and try to help
b) quietly walk back down the path and continue your stroll

??


It would be (a) for me though.

I like to sleep at night
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Old 22-08-2016, 12:08
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It would be (a) for me though.

I like to sleep at night
I'd be able to sleep at night choosing option b) knowing that he wouldn't be able to be as bad to any other woman and child again, with the ripple effect affecting other people too.
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Old 22-08-2016, 12:44
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I think I would do b) as well, so that he could never again inflict misery on any other women, and not continue to distress Helen via his involvement with Jack.

A sneaky fancy of mine is that Rob owns Bruce and Ursula's house in trust (they transferred to him to avoid inheritance tax). So when Rob carks it at the bottom of the stairs (above scenario), Helen inherits all Rob's property as his wife. She then turns Bruce and Ursula out of their posh Hampshire house and flogs it so she can buy a really nice home in Ambridge for her and her boys.
Ursula ends up living with Bruce in a bedsit above a launderette and tattoo parlour in Portsmouth

I've given this too much thought!
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Old 22-08-2016, 13:27
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Very Perry Mason like

Actually don't think so, we must never forget Henry pretty much saw the whole thing (besides living in that very unhappy home). I think you're right about the "darkest before dawn" scenario and no doubt Henry will be dashed along to see a leading clinical child therapist at the 11th hour, when the truth will come out. Also we don't know what Jess will have to say and there is always the call to the Help Centre.
Also don't forget that Polish worker who Rob intimidated to the point he left the country ... he could testify to Rob's violent behaviour - perhaps Charlie Thomas has managed to track him down. This testimony of Rob's instability would go well with the hunt sab's - if he can be found.
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Old 22-08-2016, 14:28
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Also don't forget that Polish worker who Rob intimidated to the point he left the country ... he could testify to Rob's violent behaviour - perhaps Charlie Thomas has managed to track him down. This testimony of Rob's instability would go well with the hunt sab's - if he can be found.
I agree though it all seems a bit too far gone. Wouldn't the respective barristers have exchanged their casework by now?
And Helen hasn't even told Anna what happened yet.
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Old 22-08-2016, 14:35
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I agree though it all seems a bit too far gone. Wouldn't the respective barristers have exchanged their casework by now?
And Helen hasn't even told Anna what happened yet.
Yes they should have exchanged bundles some time ago. But time operates differently in soap land. Falls within the small print of e = mc2.
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Old 22-08-2016, 14:36
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I see Sean O'Connor is getting rather 'mixed' reviews from EE fans.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2175087

Among other threads about his "improvements"
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Old 22-08-2016, 15:39
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I think I would do b) as well, so that he could never again inflict misery on any other women, and not continue to distress Helen via his involvement with Jack.

A sneaky fancy of mine is that Rob owns Bruce and Ursula's house in trust (they transferred to him to avoid inheritance tax). So when Rob carks it at the bottom of the stairs (above scenario), Helen inherits all Rob's property as his wife. She then turns Bruce and Ursula out of their posh Hampshire house and flogs it so she can buy a really nice home in Ambridge for her and her boys.
Ursula ends up living with Bruce in a bedsit above a launderette and tattoo parlour in Portsmouth

I've given this too much thought!
Loving your scenario, Welsh-lad!

And another vote for option B.
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Old 22-08-2016, 17:00
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Rob doesn't even get me annoyed anymore. Instead, I just laugh at how silly and unrealistic the whole thing has become. While I know abusive men like Rob obviously exist in real life, I don't believe there's anyone who would always know the right thing to say to push people's buttons and always get away with it.

Rob is so obviously the creation of a team of writers who seem hell bent on making him as loathsome as possible just to wind the audience up further and to make his eventual comeuppance sweeter than ever. Surely they won't try to drag it out beyond the trial?
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Old 22-08-2016, 18:23
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Rob doesn't even get me annoyed anymore. Instead, I just laugh at how silly and unrealistic the whole thing has become. While I know abusive men like Rob obviously exist in real life, I don't believe there's anyone who would always know the right thing to say to push people's buttons and always get away with it.

Rob is so obviously the creation of a team of writers who seem hell bent on making him as loathsome as possible just to wind the audience up further and to make his eventual comeuppance sweeter than ever. Surely they won't try to drag it out beyond the trial?
Are they going to prolong this? Will Helen go to prison in September for several months.
Then will someone come forward with someting on him. The producers may want to play silly games with the public. I really would have to give up the archers if that happened and I have listened since the beginning .
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Old 22-08-2016, 18:56
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Are they going to prolong this? Will Helen go to prison in September for several months.
Then will someone come forward with someting on him. The producers may want to play silly games with the public. I really would have to give up the archers if that happened and I have listened since the beginning .
O'Connor did hint at the court case being an ending, of sorts... saying Helen gets redemption. I think that means she gets acquitted but that Rob will linger on the margins of her life. This is the Archers after all - long haul stuff.

Wish Rhys had been long haul . I really liked him, though became annoying when shacked up with Fallon!
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Old 22-08-2016, 19:19
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Ooh Caz feels helpless stuck in jail while her violent ex might impose on her children in the outside world...

Join the bleedin' dots, Helen.
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Old 22-08-2016, 20:01
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Ooh Caz feels helpless stuck in jail while her violent ex might impose on her children in the outside world...

Join the bleedin' dots, Helen.
Do you think this might just give Helen the wake up call she needs?
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Old 22-08-2016, 20:11
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Do you think this might just give Helen the wake up call she needs?
Oh I don't know! She has other pressing issues to attend to like weeding the prison garden and hemming her boilersuit.
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Old 22-08-2016, 21:11
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Also don't forget that Polish worker who Rob intimidated to the point he left the country ... he could testify to Rob's violent behaviour - perhaps Charlie Thomas has managed to track him down. This testimony of Rob's instability would go well with the hunt sab's - if he can be found.
Did he leave the country or has Rob done away with him? Did anybody ever hear from him after he disappeared - apparently apart from Rob who claims he was contacted by him and he said he wasn't coming back. There's nobody to corroborate that is there?
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Old 22-08-2016, 21:44
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Did he leave the country or has Rob done away with him? Did anybody ever hear from him after he disappeared - apparently apart from Rob who claims he was contacted by him and he said he wasn't coming back. There's nobody to corroborate that is there?
Too true! Maybe he will turn up and be able to give an account of what really happened there.

There are actually a lot of questions concerning Rob and his behaviour which are never really fully answered. It's a bit infuriating.
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Old 22-08-2016, 22:08
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Too true! Maybe he will turn up and be able to give an account of what really happened there.

There are actually a lot of questions concerning Rob and his behaviour which are never really fully answered. It's a bit infuriating.
It's been bugging me for months. Maybe the poor Polish worker is the cause of the blocked culvert. Perhaps Rob disposed of hsi body in there.
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Old 22-08-2016, 22:11
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Did he leave the country or has Rob done away with him? Did anybody ever hear from him after he disappeared - apparently apart from Rob who claims he was contacted by him and he said he wasn't coming back. There's nobody to corroborate that is there?
If Rob did kill him, and that wouldn't be out of character , and gets caught it would be quite a satisfactory conclusion to this story - as long as Helen is acquitted of course. He could go off to serve his life sentence (minimum 20 years maybe?) and Helen could return to Ambridge with her sons and make a fortune out of organic baby food. Result
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Old 22-08-2016, 22:16
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If Rob did kill him, and that wouldn't be out of character , and gets caught it would be quite a satisfactory conclusion to this story - as long as Helen is acquitted of course. He could go off to serve his life sentence (minimum 20 years maybe?) and Helen could return to Ambridge with her sons and make a fortune out of organic baby food. Result
That would be a mahoosive deus ex machina.
But who cares by now? Can it just please be over!
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Old 22-08-2016, 22:17
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That would be a mahoosive deus ex machina.
But who cares by now? Can it just please be over!
I'm really sick of it too
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