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Old 08-09-2016, 09:20
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As anyone who has done jury service will know this episode stank. Trials run quite slowly and thoughtfully, the judge would have stopped interrogation of this nature, if he didn't the defence would have demanded the case stopped and a retrial under another judge which would be very serious for the judge indeed. The writers were far too lazy to go to their nearest crown court and see how it is done, their research seems to have been watching Judge Judy or some other rubbish. I suspect it will end like Perry Mason of years ago when someone, probably Robs ex wife, will rush into the courtroom and tell all. Utter rubbish, the BBC should know considerably better.
True but the over sensationalism was out of order and could discourage people from seeking justice on other matters. It should be possible for a professional script writer to produce something that at least feels real. The standards on this episode were unacceptably low.
Each to their own but I cannot agree with you.

For me its a realistic representation and these characters and story progression mean a lot to me (and I suspect lots of others in this thread.)

It wasn't utter rubbish to me, nor were the standards unacceptably low.

You do realise that its a story about everyday folk, don't you?

I found the skills of the actors totally believable and was gripped by the episodes this week. The writing too, has imho been excellent.

Maybe The Archers is just not for you as it has been highly praised by many professionals and media commentators.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:21
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Of course! Just got the go ahead for temporary change of residential dwelling for 'assembly and leisure' use .
The outdoor cocktail bar will be a prominent feature!
Can't wait.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:58
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Maybe The Archers is just not for you as it has been highly praised by many professionals and media commentators.
To be fair, there has been a huge amount of media attention surrounding the issues in Helen's case which serve rightly to highlight the situation that some people may find themselves in. I personally think that because it is such a serious issue, the programme makers have a duty to portray every aspect tof the story in a realistic way, fictional storyline or not. The journey that Helen has been on has been totally believable and extremely well researched but the court case and the legal process has been a little bit iffy and not following what truly might happen in such a situation.

There have been negative comments in the press this week re Anna's handling of the case and some of these comments are quite illuminating.

For me, having the case done and dusted within a week's broadcasting works fine and I understand the need to skip over some of the legal procedures in order to speed things along a bit, but I still expect a realistic portrayal of what might happen in court.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:59
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She might not appear, she had made a statement.

As she has been willing to make a statement, she has to appear. The prosecution cannot cross examine a statement, it needs a person in court.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:03
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To be fair, there has been a huge amount of media attention surrounding the issues in Helen's case which serve rightly to highlight the situation that some people may find themselves in. I personally think that because it is such a serious issue, the programme makers have a duty to portray every aspect tof the story in a realistic way, fictional storyline or not. The journey that Helen has been on has been totally believable and extremely well researched but the court case and the legal process has been a little bit iffy and not following what truly might happen in such a situation.

There have been negative comments in the press this week re Anna's handling of the case and some of these comments are quite illuminating.

For me, having the case done and dusted within a week's broadcasting works fine and I understand the need to skip over some of the legal procedures in order to speed things along a bit, but I still expect a realistic portrayal of what might happen in court.
I'm off to google.
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Old 08-09-2016, 16:05
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No surely Welsh lad is at his local council planning meeting getting everything sorted for Archer Con 2017 at his place
I hope he remembers to apply for a licence for the bar!
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Old 08-09-2016, 17:42
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I think Linda Snell has some spare time to help with organising this?
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Old 08-09-2016, 18:23
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I think Linda Snell has some spare time to help with organising this?
And I think that Shula might be available to run the buffet, she may even do her speciality - meatpaste sandwiches!
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:08
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Adam and Ian are going to have to have a talk.
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:12
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Bruce is beyond horrible, isn't he? So judgmental.
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:16
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"Tweeting" !!!

Of all soap opera duff-duffs, I did not see that one coming! Love it
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:17
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Bruce is beyond horrible, isn't he? So judgmental.
He is vile - he doesn't seem to have a clue how appalling he and his views are I actually feel sorry for Arsula and Rob for having to live with him all those years.
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:17
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Please, not a retrial! My nerves wouldn't stand it.
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:18
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If this is going to end in a mistrial I shall become an alcoholic!
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:18
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"Tweeting" !!!

Of all soap opera duff-duffs, I did not see that one coming! Love it

Adam must be bricking it
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:18
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He is vile - he doesn't seem to have a clue how appalling he and his views are I actually feel sorry for Arsula and Rob for having to live with him all those years.
He's probably most of the reason Rob's like he is. Bruce bullies Arsula, and Rob thinks that's the normal way to relate to women.
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:20
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Anyone reckon that the judge will order the jury to acquit?
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:20
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I hope Rob's dad is done for contempt of court. Surely he won't be allowed back in...
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:26
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He's probably most of the reason Rob's like he is. Bruce bullies Arsula, and Rob thinks that's the normal way to relate to women.
Yes, Rob seems so desperate to please him it's quite sad. I bet some boys with a dad like that go the other way though, and abhor violence to women.

I can't imagine what it must have been like for Arsula trying to keep the hateful man sweet for so long.
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:45
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If this is going to end in a mistrial I shall become an alcoholic!
I hope they aren't going to drag this storyline out for another 12 months or so as I will stop listening to The Archers if that's the case dispite the riveting storyline.
Ian,
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:47
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Yes, Rob seems so desperate to please him it's quite sad. I bet some boys with a dad like that go the other way though, and abhor violence to women.

I can't imagine what it must have been like for Arsula trying to keep the hateful man sweet for so long.
I reckon we're going to see some flicker of humanity and awareness in Rob at some point in the future when he says something along the lines of "I wanted to be the kind of dad to Henry that that I never had". ie he can see what Bruce has done to him, but not that he is perpetuating it himself.
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:50
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And I think that Shula might be available to run the buffet, she may even do her speciality - meatpaste sandwiches!
The weird thing is ever since that episode I have had a hankering for a Shiphams paste sandwich. Also reminded me of something called 'sandwich spread' which I remember quite liking even if it did look like finely chopped vomit.
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Old 08-09-2016, 19:54
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The weird thing is ever since that episode I have had a hankering for a Shiphams paste sandwich. Also reminded me of something called 'sandwich spread' which I remember quite liking even if it did look like finely chopped vomit.
Is it wrong that I'm currently eating tuna bake...?
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Old 08-09-2016, 20:00
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Is it wrong that I'm currently eating tuna bake...?
Oh sorry Dippy. I shouldn't have posted that at dinner time.
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Old 08-09-2016, 20:08
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Oh sorry Dippy. I shouldn't have posted that at dinner time.
Ha! Iron constitution here And another fan of Sandwich Spread too: kind of chutney-for-kids as I remember it.
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