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Old 13-10-2014, 16:44
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In sheltered accommodation she can maintain her independence,

I'd just tell my mum she had to and that would be that.
I think Heather has been offered choices - she could move to Ambridge or into sheltered housing, but if she refuses to budge from her house I don't suppose there's much David and Ruth could do about it.

Does Ruth have any siblings? Perhaps they could club together and hire a live in companion for Heather?

Not sure if Heather knows of David and Ruth's plans to sell up, but she seemed quite a reasonable person, so maybe when she finds out she'll agree to the sheltered accommodation.
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Old 13-10-2014, 16:53
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Yes. Wasn't one of the issues that Tom felt compared to and unable to live up to his dead Brother. Johnny has surpassed him there already



I think she should move in with rebel Carol. One of the things I like about Jill is her giggle and Carol makes her giggle an awful lot. I've no problem with David, Ruth and Pip disappearing off North for the forseeable.



Me too Really enjoying it and on tenterhooks with several story lines. The sublime Elizabeth comeuppance post Roy Dalliance though Phoebe's introduction into this is almost as much a turn off on the scale of Freddie's Let's hope they are sidelined and the grown ups can tear each other apart Then there is the slow burner of evil Rob and the the soon to be torrid affair between slapper Adam and snob yuppie Charlie.

Great stuff
Agree with everything you have said.......
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Old 13-10-2014, 17:20
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adam is a bit of an a middle class slapper. poor ian. i hope he doesn't have a thing with charlie.

loved the mention of doris in the archers. its great how the archers can use its rich history and embroider it into the present.
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Old 13-10-2014, 20:01
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adam is a bit of an a middle class slapper. poor ian. i hope he doesn't have a thing with charlie.

loved the mention of doris in the archers. its great how the archers can use its rich history and embroider it into the present.
Ian needs to get back to being best friends with Helen and sussing out the evil Rob.

I like the older references. In our family we talk about the oldies who aren't with us any more, especially when there are current activities that bring to mind memorable or funny events.
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Old 13-10-2014, 20:15
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I think Heather has been offered choices - she could move to Ambridge or into sheltered housing, but if she refuses to budge from her house I don't suppose there's much David and Ruth could do about it.

Does Ruth have any siblings? Perhaps they could club together and hire a live in companion for Heather?

Not sure if Heather knows of David and Ruth's plans to sell up, but she seemed quite a reasonable person, so maybe when she finds out she'll agree to the sheltered accommodation.
I don't know if she has siblings, not that I can recall any being mentioned.

The trouble seems to be that she is getting increasingly frail and with that the mind begins to fail. Not that she is losing her marbles, but with many older people, perspective is lost and they become insular and self involved.

So her daughter may have to force the issue. If Heather pet still refuses point blank to budge then I can see why Ruth feels she has to be closer.

But it's not practical or logical.

And her and David won't have the profit from the sale of Brookfield, they will have a portion of it, and what size portion we don't know.

Anyway, the archers farm Brookfield, that's the story.
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Old 13-10-2014, 20:19
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Hayley was fabulous this week. She finally reminded Roy that he wasn't the only one who could make choices. I honestly cheered when she walked out. He never even saw it coming - he underestimated her that much.
It's not going well for Roy is it. A moral lesson from the archers. Mess about behind your wife's back and you lose your wife, kids. Job, reputation etc,

I wonder what Mike will do when his boy is in such trouble and his whiny Mrs is droning on about moving to Brum so they can get the right support for Bethany. (What a lot of rubbish that is!)
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Old 13-10-2014, 20:21
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Ruth and her mother are the selfish ones, not David. Heather is old and might not last for many more years, so it's ridiculous that Ruth wants them all to up sticks and move to be nearer to her.
Nah, it's not sensible but it's a real dilemma that people face.

A friend of mine moved from New Zealand to be with her mum after her dad died.
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Old 13-10-2014, 20:23
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It's not going well for Roy is it. A moral lesson from the archers. Mess about behind your wife's back and you lose your wife, kids. Job, reputation etc,

I wonder what Mike will do when his boy is in such trouble and his whiny Mrs is droning on about moving to Brum so they can get the right support for Bethany. (What a lot of rubbish that is!)
Don't know, are the Tuckers really going? Shame if so, I like Mike a lot. Betty dying was one of the saddest ever storylines. Got to say, not keen on his new wife though. Always liked Hayley as well, but no idea who she might get together with now Roy's imploded. Bit of a drought of available decent straight fellas in Ambridge these days.
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Old 13-10-2014, 20:29
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Brian survived his multiple past infidelites but went a bit quiet tonight when his missus was talking about the Roy / Hayley situation.
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Old 13-10-2014, 20:31
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Ian needs to get back to being best friends with Helen and sussing out the evil Rob.

I like the older references. In our family we talk about the oldies who aren't with us any more, especially when there are current activities that bring to mind memorable or funny events.
I wish Ian and Helen were still friendly, but I think Rob put the kibosh on that

Tonight's episode made me laugh out loud a few times

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Old 14-10-2014, 23:46
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I'm loving how Jenny is subtly digging at Brian and his philandering past!!!

Also, how Linda is contemplating going over to the dark side this panto season!
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Old 15-10-2014, 00:26
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I hope that there definitely is no panto in Ambridge this year, as much as Lynda amuses me, the pant stories annoy me!
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Old 15-10-2014, 19:23
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Gosh, I'm actually feeling sorry for Elizabeth

Starting to think she should front it out .... (I shagged Roy so what??? )

Think if Susan has sniffed it out it'll soon be all around the village, so she might as well.

Rob is on top sinister form - Helen is constructing her own prison.

Can anyone tell me please - is Tina who works at Ambridge Organics anything to do with Rob? I think I must have missed it when she was hired, and Rob seems to think a lot of her
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Old 15-10-2014, 19:59
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Is Tina a silent character?
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Old 15-10-2014, 20:01
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I'm glad you have pointed that out. Heather refusing to come down to Ambridge and join the family at Brookfield has caused this, her being selfish and her daughter wanting the family to up-sticks all for the sake of Heather. Does Heather know about all this? What happens if they uproot and Heather pops her clogs. A bit far fetched to my mind that several people have to go to such lengths for the sake of one.

Also, what about the petition against the road going through Brookfield. Does this mean that David has just given in. All that work, and for nothing. Does this leave the door open for Jill to move in with friend Grace. Of course I know that Brookfield will always stay in Archer hands. They are surely not going to have a massive cull of Archers.......are they?
We haven't heard from Heather at all but Ruth has reported her saying she doesn't want to give up her independence and go into sheltered accommodation, she also said she didn't want to move and leave all her friends and she has apparently also said that David and Ruth shouldn't sell up and move just for her.

David's position seems to be that moving will be a last resort, only if the road gets built but that doesn't really make sense as Heather will need looking after whether the road is built or not. I think Ruth's acting out of pure guilt and is being a wee bit sneaky as I think she wants to move whatever, so is pushing for that but I don't think she's really thought it through either as you're right, what if Heather pops her clogs as soon as they move

I want Jill to stay and move in with Carol. I like them both and think they'll have a hoot. Also I'd love David and Ruth to move as they are so very dull but I really can't see it happening which makes me think the road won't go ahead through Home Farm and that poor Heather's days are numbered.
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Old 15-10-2014, 20:04
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We haven't heard from Heather at all but Ruth has reported her saying she doesn't want to give up her independence and go into sheltered accommodation, she also said she didn't want to move and leave all her friends and she has apparently also said that David and Ruth shouldn't sell up and move just for her.

David's position seems to be that moving will be a last resort, only if the road gets built but that doesn't really make sense as Heather will need looking after whether the road is built or not. I think Ruth's acting out of pure guilt and is being a wee bit sneaky as I think she wants to move whatever, so is pushing for that but I don't think she's really thought it through either as you're right, what if Heather pops her clogs as soon as they move

I want Jill to stay and move in with Carol. I like them both and think they'll have a hoot. Also I'd love David and Ruth to move as they are so very dull but I really can't see it happening which makes me think the road won't go ahead through Home Farm and that poor Heather's days are numbered.
I agree
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Old 15-10-2014, 22:07
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I hope that there definitely is no panto in Ambridge this year, as much as Lynda amuses me, the pant stories annoy me!
The panto stories annoy me too - not sure they work on the radio, with every hilarious event having to be explained to us by one of the characters.

I did think it was funny though, when Lillian was in it and nipped out for a fag At least, I think that was the panto.

I love Lillian, and Lynda too. Good old Baby Mungo - bringing them together
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Old 15-10-2014, 23:05
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I hope that there definitely is no panto in Ambridge this year, as much as Lynda amuses me, the pant stories annoy me!
The panto stories annoy me too - not sure they work on the radio, with every hilarious event having to be explained to us by one of the characters.
Sigh of relief here too. The panto line needs a break.
It's always the same - Lillian getting in a flap, dodgy auditions, tension over parts and the production. There's only so much you can do with it.
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Old 15-10-2014, 23:09
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Lillian getting in a flap
The only time I have known Lillian get in a flap was as the fling with Matt's half-brother came to an ugly end. And if the G&T runs out, of course ...
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Old 15-10-2014, 23:10
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Tuned in tonight just as Elizabeth was saying "I've hosted so many balls"

... well she's certainly entertained Roy's!

Love the line developing re the Archer children having stakes in Brookfield should there be a sale- there's going to be a good deal of tension when Ruth realises this.

The way Rob is beginning to control Helen is really insidious and is being unfurled very realistically.
This is often exactly how domestic violence and control starts. The way he got her thinking she's got to text him when she goes out of the house was chilling.
Alarm bells Helen - *abort now*!
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Old 16-10-2014, 01:03
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Gosh, I'm actually feeling sorry for Elizabeth

Starting to think she should front it out .... (I shagged Roy so what??? )

Think if Susan has sniffed it out it'll soon be all around the village, so she might as well.

Rob is on top sinister form - Helen is constructing her own prison.

Can anyone tell me please - is Tina who works at Ambridge Organics anything to do with Rob? I think I must have missed it when she was hired, and Rob seems to think a lot of her
I know Rob was very involved with the hiring so maybe he does know her It's a fantastic story line and evil Rob is playing a blinder here
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Old 16-10-2014, 20:48
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So Brookfield is worth £4m.

Makes you realise how wealthy the agricultural community is (and I don't mean hobby farmers and smallholders, but the old farming families in all localities in the UK).

It's an odd kind of wealth though - all tied up in assets and land, to which there is also very often a deep traditional and sentimental attachment.
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Old 17-10-2014, 06:06
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So Brookfield is worth £4m.

Makes you realise how wealthy the agricultural community is (and I don't mean hobby farmers and smallholders, but the old farming families in all localities in the UK).

It's an odd kind of wealth though - all tied up in assets and land, to which there is also very often a deep traditional and sentimental attachment.
They may be asset rich, but they could be cash poor.
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Old 17-10-2014, 07:08
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As small businesses go (which a family run farm is) it is pretty small beer. It only looks a lot if you were thinking of selling up and spending it all on cheap strong supermarket cider and a satellite TV subscription.
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Old 17-10-2014, 17:50
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I am really liking Carol
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